This is a topic I have been chasing for a month now, ever since I updated to
Vista SP1 and installed a v2 Media Center Extender for the kids; however, I
think it is completely unrelated to either of these events.

All of the Viacom-based add-ins no longer appear in the Online Media /
Explore menu under VMC. This includes TurboNick, Comedy Central Motherload,
MTV, VH1, etc. Unfortunately, I never saved one of these to the Programs
menu, so have no idea if this might have avoided this issue.

The biggest hit here is TurboNick, since that was intended to be a nice
source of programming for the kids. We recently "cut the cable" and went to
all OTA HD. Note that TurboNick still shows up through a regular browser, but
Motherload has been removed altogether.

So, I will assume that someone at Microsoft may have some clue as to what is
going on here, especially considering that these add-ins were featured parts
of the Vista release, and since all mention of them has been removed from the
Vista description pages where they used to appear.

My questions are simple:

1. Why did Viacom pull their add-ins out of Vista? Especially for TurboNick
VMC seemed to be a part of their strategy.

2. Are they ever coming back?

3. Is there a way to put them back manually?

Note that in terms of #3 at least one poster has found a way to manually
replace the MTV and VH1 add-ins. The address turbonick.com/mce also continued
to bring up an MCML file a couple of weeks ago, but has now been updated to
redirect to the normal TurboNick page.

All of this makes it clear that SOMEONE knows what is going on here. I would
just appreciate as a loyal media center user to be "in the loop" and know
whether something better is coming, or whether I just need to give up on ever
watching a Viacom product again.

RE: All Viacom Add-ins (e.g. TurboNick) Now Missing from VMC! by Jeff

Jeff
Sat May 24 15:49:01 PDT 2008

Has anyone got back to you on this? Everyone I know that uses VMC has the
same situation.

"BTDT" wrote:

> This is a topic I have been chasing for a month now, ever since I updated to
> Vista SP1 and installed a v2 Media Center Extender for the kids; however, I
> think it is completely unrelated to either of these events.
>
> All of the Viacom-based add-ins no longer appear in the Online Media /
> Explore menu under VMC. This includes TurboNick, Comedy Central Motherload,
> MTV, VH1, etc. Unfortunately, I never saved one of these to the Programs
> menu, so have no idea if this might have avoided this issue.
>
> The biggest hit here is TurboNick, since that was intended to be a nice
> source of programming for the kids. We recently "cut the cable" and went to
> all OTA HD. Note that TurboNick still shows up through a regular browser, but
> Motherload has been removed altogether.
>
> So, I will assume that someone at Microsoft may have some clue as to what is
> going on here, especially considering that these add-ins were featured parts
> of the Vista release, and since all mention of them has been removed from the
> Vista description pages where they used to appear.
>
> My questions are simple:
>
> 1. Why did Viacom pull their add-ins out of Vista? Especially for TurboNick
> VMC seemed to be a part of their strategy.
>
> 2. Are they ever coming back?
>
> 3. Is there a way to put them back manually?
>
> Note that in terms of #3 at least one poster has found a way to manually
> replace the MTV and VH1 add-ins. The address turbonick.com/mce also continued
> to bring up an MCML file a couple of weeks ago, but has now been updated to
> redirect to the normal TurboNick page.
>
> All of this makes it clear that SOMEONE knows what is going on here. I would
> just appreciate as a loyal media center user to be "in the loop" and know
> whether something better is coming, or whether I just need to give up on ever
> watching a Viacom product again.

RE: All Viacom Add-ins (e.g. TurboNick) Now Missing from VMC! by BTDT

BTDT
Tue May 27 08:34:01 PDT 2008

No. This is indeed an across-the-board change but it appears to me that very
few VMC users care very much about the spotlight plug-ins (which may be one
reason for these disappearing). In my case I was looking at this as being a
conduit for continued Nick content given our recent move to all-OTA HD. We
can still break out the wireless keyboard and web browser and do this the
hard way, but it would be nice for this content to be equally available on
the extender.

I'm sure someone out there knows exactly why this change happened. My
expectation is that a one-year joint marketing agreement between Microsoft
and Viacom ran out and that Viacom is seeking other interesting ways to push
out its content. Unfortunately, a consolidated solution for the consumer
seems to be difficult to achieve given that each content provider wants to
come up with their own solution and portal.

Sigh.


"Jeff" wrote:

> Has anyone got back to you on this? Everyone I know that uses VMC has the
> same situation.
>
> "BTDT" wrote:
>
> > This is a topic I have been chasing for a month now, ever since I updated to
> > Vista SP1 and installed a v2 Media Center Extender for the kids; however, I
> > think it is completely unrelated to either of these events.
> >
> > All of the Viacom-based add-ins no longer appear in the Online Media /
> > Explore menu under VMC. This includes TurboNick, Comedy Central Motherload,
> > MTV, VH1, etc. Unfortunately, I never saved one of these to the Programs
> > menu, so have no idea if this might have avoided this issue.
> >
> > The biggest hit here is TurboNick, since that was intended to be a nice
> > source of programming for the kids. We recently "cut the cable" and went to
> > all OTA HD. Note that TurboNick still shows up through a regular browser, but
> > Motherload has been removed altogether.
> >
> > So, I will assume that someone at Microsoft may have some clue as to what is
> > going on here, especially considering that these add-ins were featured parts
> > of the Vista release, and since all mention of them has been removed from the
> > Vista description pages where they used to appear.
> >
> > My questions are simple:
> >
> > 1. Why did Viacom pull their add-ins out of Vista? Especially for TurboNick
> > VMC seemed to be a part of their strategy.
> >
> > 2. Are they ever coming back?
> >
> > 3. Is there a way to put them back manually?
> >
> > Note that in terms of #3 at least one poster has found a way to manually
> > replace the MTV and VH1 add-ins. The address turbonick.com/mce also continued
> > to bring up an MCML file a couple of weeks ago, but has now been updated to
> > redirect to the normal TurboNick page.
> >
> > All of this makes it clear that SOMEONE knows what is going on here. I would
> > just appreciate as a loyal media center user to be "in the loop" and know
> > whether something better is coming, or whether I just need to give up on ever
> > watching a Viacom product again.

RE: All Viacom Add-ins (e.g. TurboNick) Now Missing from VMC! by dcozzi

dcozzi
Thu May 29 08:39:01 PDT 2008

Have you heard any feedback yet? I saw the plug-in at a neighbor's house but
he was not running SP1. If not, did you find a workaround? Thanks

"BTDT" wrote:

> No. This is indeed an across-the-board change but it appears to me that very
> few VMC users care very much about the spotlight plug-ins (which may be one
> reason for these disappearing). In my case I was looking at this as being a
> conduit for continued Nick content given our recent move to all-OTA HD. We
> can still break out the wireless keyboard and web browser and do this the
> hard way, but it would be nice for this content to be equally available on
> the extender.
>
> I'm sure someone out there knows exactly why this change happened. My
> expectation is that a one-year joint marketing agreement between Microsoft
> and Viacom ran out and that Viacom is seeking other interesting ways to push
> out its content. Unfortunately, a consolidated solution for the consumer
> seems to be difficult to achieve given that each content provider wants to
> come up with their own solution and portal.
>
> Sigh.
>
>
> "Jeff" wrote:
>
> > Has anyone got back to you on this? Everyone I know that uses VMC has the
> > same situation.
> >
> > "BTDT" wrote:
> >
> > > This is a topic I have been chasing for a month now, ever since I updated to
> > > Vista SP1 and installed a v2 Media Center Extender for the kids; however, I
> > > think it is completely unrelated to either of these events.
> > >
> > > All of the Viacom-based add-ins no longer appear in the Online Media /
> > > Explore menu under VMC. This includes TurboNick, Comedy Central Motherload,
> > > MTV, VH1, etc. Unfortunately, I never saved one of these to the Programs
> > > menu, so have no idea if this might have avoided this issue.
> > >
> > > The biggest hit here is TurboNick, since that was intended to be a nice
> > > source of programming for the kids. We recently "cut the cable" and went to
> > > all OTA HD. Note that TurboNick still shows up through a regular browser, but
> > > Motherload has been removed altogether.
> > >
> > > So, I will assume that someone at Microsoft may have some clue as to what is
> > > going on here, especially considering that these add-ins were featured parts
> > > of the Vista release, and since all mention of them has been removed from the
> > > Vista description pages where they used to appear.
> > >
> > > My questions are simple:
> > >
> > > 1. Why did Viacom pull their add-ins out of Vista? Especially for TurboNick
> > > VMC seemed to be a part of their strategy.
> > >
> > > 2. Are they ever coming back?
> > >
> > > 3. Is there a way to put them back manually?
> > >
> > > Note that in terms of #3 at least one poster has found a way to manually
> > > replace the MTV and VH1 add-ins. The address turbonick.com/mce also continued
> > > to bring up an MCML file a couple of weeks ago, but has now been updated to
> > > redirect to the normal TurboNick page.
> > >
> > > All of this makes it clear that SOMEONE knows what is going on here. I would
> > > just appreciate as a loyal media center user to be "in the loop" and know
> > > whether something better is coming, or whether I just need to give up on ever
> > > watching a Viacom product again.

RE: All Viacom Add-ins (e.g. TurboNick) Now Missing from VMC! by BTDT

BTDT
Thu May 29 09:26:01 PDT 2008

No feedback from anyone in a position of real knowledge.

When did you see the TurboNick plugin in action? Other users have reported
that it disappeared from both SP1 and pre-SP1 machines. In my case I first
noticed it missing shortly after updating to SP1 and installed an extender.
At first I thought it was an extender limitation, but then noticed it was
missing as well from the main Media Center.

The odd thing is that TurboNick did a very nice update to their plug-in in
mid-March. Most of the other plug-ins are very kludgy and error-prone, but
this one seemed very nice.

"dcozzi" wrote:

> Have you heard any feedback yet? I saw the plug-in at a neighbor's house but
> he was not running SP1. If not, did you find a workaround? Thanks
>
> "BTDT" wrote:
>
> > No. This is indeed an across-the-board change but it appears to me that very
> > few VMC users care very much about the spotlight plug-ins (which may be one
> > reason for these disappearing). In my case I was looking at this as being a
> > conduit for continued Nick content given our recent move to all-OTA HD. We
> > can still break out the wireless keyboard and web browser and do this the
> > hard way, but it would be nice for this content to be equally available on
> > the extender.
> >
> > I'm sure someone out there knows exactly why this change happened. My
> > expectation is that a one-year joint marketing agreement between Microsoft
> > and Viacom ran out and that Viacom is seeking other interesting ways to push
> > out its content. Unfortunately, a consolidated solution for the consumer
> > seems to be difficult to achieve given that each content provider wants to
> > come up with their own solution and portal.
> >
> > Sigh.
> >
> >
> > "Jeff" wrote:
> >
> > > Has anyone got back to you on this? Everyone I know that uses VMC has the
> > > same situation.
> > >
> > > "BTDT" wrote:
> > >
> > > > This is a topic I have been chasing for a month now, ever since I updated to
> > > > Vista SP1 and installed a v2 Media Center Extender for the kids; however, I
> > > > think it is completely unrelated to either of these events.
> > > >
> > > > All of the Viacom-based add-ins no longer appear in the Online Media /
> > > > Explore menu under VMC. This includes TurboNick, Comedy Central Motherload,
> > > > MTV, VH1, etc. Unfortunately, I never saved one of these to the Programs
> > > > menu, so have no idea if this might have avoided this issue.
> > > >
> > > > The biggest hit here is TurboNick, since that was intended to be a nice
> > > > source of programming for the kids. We recently "cut the cable" and went to
> > > > all OTA HD. Note that TurboNick still shows up through a regular browser, but
> > > > Motherload has been removed altogether.
> > > >
> > > > So, I will assume that someone at Microsoft may have some clue as to what is
> > > > going on here, especially considering that these add-ins were featured parts
> > > > of the Vista release, and since all mention of them has been removed from the
> > > > Vista description pages where they used to appear.
> > > >
> > > > My questions are simple:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Why did Viacom pull their add-ins out of Vista? Especially for TurboNick
> > > > VMC seemed to be a part of their strategy.
> > > >
> > > > 2. Are they ever coming back?
> > > >
> > > > 3. Is there a way to put them back manually?
> > > >
> > > > Note that in terms of #3 at least one poster has found a way to manually
> > > > replace the MTV and VH1 add-ins. The address turbonick.com/mce also continued
> > > > to bring up an MCML file a couple of weeks ago, but has now been updated to
> > > > redirect to the normal TurboNick page.
> > > >
> > > > All of this makes it clear that SOMEONE knows what is going on here. I would
> > > > just appreciate as a loyal media center user to be "in the loop" and know
> > > > whether something better is coming, or whether I just need to give up on ever
> > > > watching a Viacom product again.