I would very much like to be able to install Windows Media Player 11 on my PC
(so I can watch streaming movies from Netflix on the new monitor I just
bought). Unfortunately WMP 11 does not work on WinXP MCE 2004. The
manufacturer of my PC tells me there is nothing they can do to upgrade my
system to MCE 2005 (and that I should just buy a new PC). However, I have
seen references on this site to upgrading from MCE 2004 to MCE 2005. Can
anyone shed some light on this apparent contradiction? And if one can
upgrade from 2004 to 2005, how is that done? Would a product recovery disc
do it (meaning, could I use a recover disc for WinXP MCE 2005 to convert my
operating system from 2004 to 2005)?

Thanks, Rob.

Re: Upgrade from 2004 to 2005 by Doug

Doug
Thu Mar 20 17:55:43 PDT 2008

No, recovery would wipe your existing 2004 install and install 2005.
Additionally, it would be a violation of the license for the person that
actually owns the PC that copy of MCE 2005 is installed on.

The only way to get an upgrade from MCE 2004 to 2005 is through the
manufacturer of your computer. And most of those only offered it for a
limited time. You can purchase MCE 2005 via many online retailers,
newegg.com is one such, and perform a clean installation yourself.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart
Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

"kellyr02" <kellyr02@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:37EADD75-586C-41D9-AE19-66494CC0B869@microsoft.com...
>I would very much like to be able to install Windows Media Player 11 on my
>PC
> (so I can watch streaming movies from Netflix on the new monitor I just
> bought). Unfortunately WMP 11 does not work on WinXP MCE 2004. The
> manufacturer of my PC tells me there is nothing they can do to upgrade my
> system to MCE 2005 (and that I should just buy a new PC). However, I have
> seen references on this site to upgrading from MCE 2004 to MCE 2005. Can
> anyone shed some light on this apparent contradiction? And if one can
> upgrade from 2004 to 2005, how is that done? Would a product recovery
> disc
> do it (meaning, could I use a recover disc for WinXP MCE 2005 to convert
> my
> operating system from 2004 to 2005)?
>
> Thanks, Rob.


Re: Upgrade from 2004 to 2005 by kellyr02

kellyr02
Thu Mar 20 20:45:00 PDT 2008

Thank you for the response. I located WinXP MCE 2005-OEM on Newegg.com, but
before I purchase it, I'd like to get a little more clarification. The
sales/tech support for my PC (Hewlitt-Packard) told me they don't have "any
discs to upgrade" my system from 2004 to 2005, and indeed they may not have a
WinXP MCE 2005-OEM set for sale, but they admit that they do have MCE 2005
product recovery discs for sale. It seems that if I were willing to wipe my
system that I could legally purchase MCE 2005 recovery discs from HP to
change my operating system. The HP sales/tech staff tell me that won't work
for "configuration" reasons that they won't/can't adequately explain ("your
motherboard could be damaged"). Perhaps its a moot point, but it seems that
there is a world of difference between "not possible" and "we don't want to
sell it to you" or "it's not legal to change your OS in that fashion." I'm
obviously hoping that it is both possible and legal.


"Doug Knox - [MS-MVP]" wrote:

> No, recovery would wipe your existing 2004 install and install 2005.
> Additionally, it would be a violation of the license for the person that
> actually owns the PC that copy of MCE 2005 is installed on.
>
> The only way to get an upgrade from MCE 2004 to 2005 is through the
> manufacturer of your computer. And most of those only offered it for a
> limited time. You can purchase MCE 2005 via many online retailers,
> newegg.com is one such, and perform a clean installation yourself.
>
> --
> Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart
> Display\Security
> Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> http://www.dougknox.com
> --------------------------------
> Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
> --------------------------------
> Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
> Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
>
> "kellyr02" <kellyr02@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:37EADD75-586C-41D9-AE19-66494CC0B869@microsoft.com...
> >I would very much like to be able to install Windows Media Player 11 on my
> >PC
> > (so I can watch streaming movies from Netflix on the new monitor I just
> > bought). Unfortunately WMP 11 does not work on WinXP MCE 2004. The
> > manufacturer of my PC tells me there is nothing they can do to upgrade my
> > system to MCE 2005 (and that I should just buy a new PC). However, I have
> > seen references on this site to upgrading from MCE 2004 to MCE 2005. Can
> > anyone shed some light on this apparent contradiction? And if one can
> > upgrade from 2004 to 2005, how is that done? Would a product recovery
> > disc
> > do it (meaning, could I use a recover disc for WinXP MCE 2005 to convert
> > my
> > operating system from 2004 to 2005)?
> >
> > Thanks, Rob.
>

Re: Upgrade from 2004 to 2005 by Jaime

Jaime
Fri Mar 21 06:51:09 PDT 2008

There would be legal issues; 2005 was not considered an upgrade in that MS
never sold an upgrade version on the full version. Some PC manufacturers
crafted upgrade discs that were available for a limited time for systems
that had been recently purchased when MCE 2005 was released. Your system
only has a license for MCE 2004, so technically it probably isn't valid for
the full 2005 version (which the recovery disc contain) or your key may not
be invalid for the install.
--
James
Orlando (Goofy says "Hey"), Florida

"kellyr02" <kellyr02@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:727B4774-C0B6-48FA-A474-A83A95DD3DFE@microsoft.com...
> Thank you for the response. I located WinXP MCE 2005-OEM on Newegg.com,
> but
> before I purchase it, I'd like to get a little more clarification. The
> sales/tech support for my PC (Hewlitt-Packard) told me they don't have
> "any
> discs to upgrade" my system from 2004 to 2005, and indeed they may not
> have a
> WinXP MCE 2005-OEM set for sale, but they admit that they do have MCE 2005
> product recovery discs for sale. It seems that if I were willing to wipe
> my
> system that I could legally purchase MCE 2005 recovery discs from HP to
> change my operating system. The HP sales/tech staff tell me that won't
> work
> for "configuration" reasons that they won't/can't adequately explain
> ("your
> motherboard could be damaged"). Perhaps its a moot point, but it seems
> that
> there is a world of difference between "not possible" and "we don't want
> to
> sell it to you" or "it's not legal to change your OS in that fashion."
> I'm
> obviously hoping that it is both possible and legal.
>
>
> "Doug Knox - [MS-MVP]" wrote:
>
>> No, recovery would wipe your existing 2004 install and install 2005.
>> Additionally, it would be a violation of the license for the person that
>> actually owns the PC that copy of MCE 2005 is installed on.
>>
>> The only way to get an upgrade from MCE 2004 to 2005 is through the
>> manufacturer of your computer. And most of those only offered it for a
>> limited time. You can purchase MCE 2005 via many online retailers,
>> newegg.com is one such, and perform a clean installation yourself.
>>
>> --
>> Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart
>> Display\Security
>> Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
>> http://www.dougknox.com
>> --------------------------------
>> Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
>> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
>> --------------------------------
>> Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
>> Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
>>
>> "kellyr02" <kellyr02@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:37EADD75-586C-41D9-AE19-66494CC0B869@microsoft.com...
>> >I would very much like to be able to install Windows Media Player 11 on
>> >my
>> >PC
>> > (so I can watch streaming movies from Netflix on the new monitor I just
>> > bought). Unfortunately WMP 11 does not work on WinXP MCE 2004. The
>> > manufacturer of my PC tells me there is nothing they can do to upgrade
>> > my
>> > system to MCE 2005 (and that I should just buy a new PC). However, I
>> > have
>> > seen references on this site to upgrading from MCE 2004 to MCE 2005.
>> > Can
>> > anyone shed some light on this apparent contradiction? And if one can
>> > upgrade from 2004 to 2005, how is that done? Would a product recovery
>> > disc
>> > do it (meaning, could I use a recover disc for WinXP MCE 2005 to
>> > convert
>> > my
>> > operating system from 2004 to 2005)?
>> >
>> > Thanks, Rob.
>>

Re: Upgrade from 2004 to 2005 by CSM1

CSM1
Fri Mar 21 07:53:58 PDT 2008

If you purchased the Media Center 2005 OEM from newegg.com you would get a
license for that copy of MCE 2005, it would be a legal install.

You warranty from HP would be null and void.

HP probably is not going to "give" you a copy. HP may sell you a copy.

--
CSM1
http://www.carlmcmillan.com
--
"Jaime" <jaimelobo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23asNTq1iIHA.5280@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> There would be legal issues; 2005 was not considered an upgrade in that MS
> never sold an upgrade version on the full version. Some PC manufacturers
> crafted upgrade discs that were available for a limited time for systems
> that had been recently purchased when MCE 2005 was released. Your system
> only has a license for MCE 2004, so technically it probably isn't valid
> for the full 2005 version (which the recovery disc contain) or your key
> may not be invalid for the install.
> --
> James
> Orlando (Goofy says "Hey"), Florida
>
> "kellyr02" <kellyr02@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:727B4774-C0B6-48FA-A474-A83A95DD3DFE@microsoft.com...
>> Thank you for the response. I located WinXP MCE 2005-OEM on Newegg.com,
>> but
>> before I purchase it, I'd like to get a little more clarification. The
>> sales/tech support for my PC (Hewlitt-Packard) told me they don't have
>> "any
>> discs to upgrade" my system from 2004 to 2005, and indeed they may not
>> have a
>> WinXP MCE 2005-OEM set for sale, but they admit that they do have MCE
>> 2005
>> product recovery discs for sale. It seems that if I were willing to wipe
>> my
>> system that I could legally purchase MCE 2005 recovery discs from HP to
>> change my operating system. The HP sales/tech staff tell me that won't
>> work
>> for "configuration" reasons that they won't/can't adequately explain
>> ("your
>> motherboard could be damaged"). Perhaps its a moot point, but it seems
>> that
>> there is a world of difference between "not possible" and "we don't want
>> to
>> sell it to you" or "it's not legal to change your OS in that fashion."
>> I'm
>> obviously hoping that it is both possible and legal.
>>
>>
>> "Doug Knox - [MS-MVP]" wrote:
>>
>>> No, recovery would wipe your existing 2004 install and install 2005.
>>> Additionally, it would be a violation of the license for the person that
>>> actually owns the PC that copy of MCE 2005 is installed on.
>>>
>>> The only way to get an upgrade from MCE 2004 to 2005 is through the
>>> manufacturer of your computer. And most of those only offered it for a
>>> limited time. You can purchase MCE 2005 via many online retailers,
>>> newegg.com is one such, and perform a clean installation yourself.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart
>>> Display\Security
>>> Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
>>> http://www.dougknox.com
>>> --------------------------------
>>> Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
>>> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
>>> --------------------------------
>>> Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
>>> Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
>>>
>>> "kellyr02" <kellyr02@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:37EADD75-586C-41D9-AE19-66494CC0B869@microsoft.com...
>>> >I would very much like to be able to install Windows Media Player 11 on
>>> >my
>>> >PC
>>> > (so I can watch streaming movies from Netflix on the new monitor I
>>> > just
>>> > bought). Unfortunately WMP 11 does not work on WinXP MCE 2004. The
>>> > manufacturer of my PC tells me there is nothing they can do to upgrade
>>> > my
>>> > system to MCE 2005 (and that I should just buy a new PC). However, I
>>> > have
>>> > seen references on this site to upgrading from MCE 2004 to MCE 2005.
>>> > Can
>>> > anyone shed some light on this apparent contradiction? And if one can
>>> > upgrade from 2004 to 2005, how is that done? Would a product recovery
>>> > disc
>>> > do it (meaning, could I use a recover disc for WinXP MCE 2005 to
>>> > convert
>>> > my
>>> > operating system from 2004 to 2005)?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks, Rob.
>>>