Since I installed SP-3, OE is continually asking to compress folders,
several times a day in fact. Even though I do compress them, when asked, it
prompts me within a couple of hours to do it again.

Anyone else getting this?

How do I stop it from happening?

Larry

Re: OE - Compress Folders after SP3 by Bruce

Bruce
Thu May 08 16:48:50 PDT 2008

Congrats. You are customer #1 on this issue!



"Larry" <reply@group.com> wrote in message
news:%23PID$UWsIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Since I installed SP-3, OE is continually asking to compress folders,
> several times a day in fact. Even though I do compress them, when asked,
> it
> prompts me within a couple of hours to do it again.
>
> Anyone else getting this?
>
> How do I stop it from happening?
>
> Larry
>
>


Re: OE - Compress Folders after SP3 by Bruce

Bruce
Thu May 08 16:50:41 PDT 2008

Congrats. You are customer #1 on this issue! If you noticed, it never
completes.

Compacting hangs on Folders.dbx after installing SP3 for XP:

Until a patch is made available, compact your folders manually. The counter
will be reset to zero, and a manual compact won't hang.

Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are
open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything until
the compacting is completed.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"Larry" <reply@group.com> wrote in message
news:%23PID$UWsIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Since I installed SP-3, OE is continually asking to compress folders,
> several times a day in fact. Even though I do compress them, when asked,
> it
> prompts me within a couple of hours to do it again.
>
> Anyone else getting this?
>
> How do I stop it from happening?
>
> Larry
>
>


Re: OE - Compress Folders after SP3 by Larry

Larry
Thu May 08 17:07:23 PDT 2008

Thanks Bruce, I look forward to the patch.

Cheers,

Larry


"Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
news:u3zHPZWsIHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
Congrats. You are customer #1 on this issue! If you noticed, it never
completes.

Compacting hangs on Folders.dbx after installing SP3 for XP:

Until a patch is made available, compact your folders manually. The counter
will be reset to zero, and a manual compact won't hang.

Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are
open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything until
the compacting is completed.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"Larry" <reply@group.com> wrote in message
news:%23PID$UWsIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Since I installed SP-3, OE is continually asking to compress folders,
> several times a day in fact. Even though I do compress them, when asked,
> it
> prompts me within a couple of hours to do it again.
>
> Anyone else getting this?
>
> How do I stop it from happening?
>
> Larry
>
>



Re: OE - Compress Folders after SP3 by Steve

Steve
Fri May 09 05:33:56 PDT 2008

Don't hold your breath. The chances of MS releasing a patch to fix this
issue are close to zero.

steve

"Larry" <reply@group.com> wrote in message
news:%232R8siWsIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Thanks Bruce, I look forward to the patch.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Larry
>
>
> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:u3zHPZWsIHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Congrats. You are customer #1 on this issue! If you noticed, it never
> completes.
>
> Compacting hangs on Folders.dbx after installing SP3 for XP:
>
> Until a patch is made available, compact your folders manually. The
> counter
> will be reset to zero, and a manual compact won't hang.
>
> Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are
> open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
> Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything
> until
> the compacting is completed.
> --
> Bruce Hagen
> MS-MVP Outlook Express
> Imperial Beach, CA
>
>
> "Larry" <reply@group.com> wrote in message
> news:%23PID$UWsIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Since I installed SP-3, OE is continually asking to compress folders,
>> several times a day in fact. Even though I do compress them, when asked,
>> it
>> prompts me within a couple of hours to do it again.
>>
>> Anyone else getting this?
>>
>> How do I stop it from happening?
>>
>> Larry
>>
>>
>
>


Re: OE - Compress Folders after SP3 by PA

PA
Fri May 09 10:09:39 PDT 2008

Larry, please let us know (by replying to this thread) if compacting all OE
folders manually and frequently does not address this behavior. Thanks.

General OE Caveats:

- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
folders created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Disable Background Compacting [removed in WinXP SP2] and frequently
perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working offline". More at
http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- WinXP SP2 only: Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it occur, and
do not attempt to close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if
Automatic Compacting is taking place.

- Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can cause
corruption (i.e., loss of messages), it provides no additional protection,
and even Symantec says it's not necessary:

<QP>
Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against viruses that
are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect scans
incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive, including email and
email attachments. Email Scanning is just another layer on top of this. To
make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep
Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you have
the most recent virus definitions.
</QP>
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/docid/2002111812533106
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/


Larry wrote:
> Thanks Bruce, I look forward to the patch.
>
> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:u3zHPZWsIHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Congrats. You are customer #1 on this issue! If you noticed, it never
> completes.
>
> Compacting hangs on Folders.dbx after installing SP3 for XP:
>
> Until a patch is made available, compact your folders manually. The
> counter
> will be reset to zero, and a manual compact won't hang.
>
> Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are
> open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
> Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything
> until
> the compacting is completed.
>
> "Larry" <reply@group.com> wrote in message
> news:%23PID$UWsIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Since I installed SP-3, OE is continually asking to compress folders,
>> several times a day in fact. Even though I do compress them, when asked,
>> it
>> prompts me within a couple of hours to do it again.
>>
>> Anyone else getting this?
>>
>> How do I stop it from happening?
>>
>> Larry


Re: OE - Compress Folders after SP3 by Larry

Larry
Fri May 09 15:26:15 PDT 2008

Unfortunately I had already reset the counter to zero by editing the
registry so not sure if manually compacting has done the trick. Resetting
the counter manually did work.

The next time I compact, I will use the File|Folder|Compact all folders|
procedure and report back at that time. I usually manually compact every 3
or 4 days.

BTW there is no longer an option to disable background compacting in
Maintenance.

Larry

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23IJA6efsIHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
Larry, please let us know (by replying to this thread) if compacting all OE
folders manually and frequently does not address this behavior. Thanks.

General OE Caveats:

- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
folders created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Disable Background Compacting [removed in WinXP SP2] and frequently
perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working offline". More at
http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- WinXP SP2 only: Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it occur, and
do not attempt to close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if
Automatic Compacting is taking place.

- Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can cause
corruption (i.e., loss of messages), it provides no additional protection,
and even Symantec says it's not necessary:

<QP>
Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against viruses that
are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect scans
incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive, including email and
email attachments. Email Scanning is just another layer on top of this. To
make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep
Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you have
the most recent virus definitions.
</QP>
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/docid/2002111812533106
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/


Larry wrote:
> Thanks Bruce, I look forward to the patch.
>
> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:u3zHPZWsIHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Congrats. You are customer #1 on this issue! If you noticed, it never
> completes.
>
> Compacting hangs on Folders.dbx after installing SP3 for XP:
>
> Until a patch is made available, compact your folders manually. The
> counter
> will be reset to zero, and a manual compact won't hang.
>
> Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are
> open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
> Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything
> until
> the compacting is completed.
>
> "Larry" <reply@group.com> wrote in message
> news:%23PID$UWsIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Since I installed SP-3, OE is continually asking to compress folders,
>> several times a day in fact. Even though I do compress them, when asked,
>> it
>> prompts me within a couple of hours to do it again.
>>
>> Anyone else getting this?
>>
>> How do I stop it from happening?
>>
>> Larry



Re: OE - Compress Folders after SP3 by Bruce

Bruce
Fri May 09 16:53:09 PDT 2008

You can reset the reg count to 100 the same way to force a compact prompt.
As far as background compacting, you won't see the option as PA Bear pointed
out:

Disable Background Compacting [removed in WinXP SP2]

"Removed in WinXP SP2".
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"Larry" <reply@group.com> wrote in message
news:ui4f3OisIHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Unfortunately I had already reset the counter to zero by editing the
> registry so not sure if manually compacting has done the trick. Resetting
> the counter manually did work.
>
> The next time I compact, I will use the File|Folder|Compact all folders|
> procedure and report back at that time. I usually manually compact every
> 3
> or 4 days.
>
> BTW there is no longer an option to disable background compacting in
> Maintenance.
>
> Larry
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23IJA6efsIHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Larry, please let us know (by replying to this thread) if compacting all
> OE
> folders manually and frequently does not address this behavior. Thanks.
>
> General OE Caveats:
>
> - Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
> folders created for this purpose.
>
> - Empty Deleted Items folder daily.
>
> - Disable Background Compacting [removed in WinXP SP2] and frequently
> perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working offline". More
> at
> http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm
>
> - WinXP SP2 only: Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it occur, and
> do not attempt to close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if
> Automatic Compacting is taking place.
>
> - Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can cause
> corruption (i.e., loss of messages), it provides no additional protection,
> and even Symantec says it's not necessary:
>
> <QP>
> Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against viruses
> that
> are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect scans
> incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive, including email and
> email attachments. Email Scanning is just another layer on top of this. To
> make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep
> Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you have
> the most recent virus definitions.
> </QP>
> http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/docid/2002111812533106
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>
>
> Larry wrote:
>> Thanks Bruce, I look forward to the patch.
>>
>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:u3zHPZWsIHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Congrats. You are customer #1 on this issue! If you noticed, it never
>> completes.
>>
>> Compacting hangs on Folders.dbx after installing SP3 for XP:
>>
>> Until a patch is made available, compact your folders manually. The
>> counter
>> will be reset to zero, and a manual compact won't hang.
>>
>> Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are
>> open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
>> Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything
>> until
>> the compacting is completed.
>>
>> "Larry" <reply@group.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23PID$UWsIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Since I installed SP-3, OE is continually asking to compress folders,
>>> several times a day in fact. Even though I do compress them, when
>>> asked,
>>> it
>>> prompts me within a couple of hours to do it again.
>>>
>>> Anyone else getting this?
>>>
>>> How do I stop it from happening?
>>>
>>> Larry
>
>


Re: OE - Compress Folders after SP3 by Larry

Larry
Sat May 10 21:01:55 PDT 2008

This is still triggering every day and it appears that the magic number has
been reduced to 10 from 100. Since we have 2 IDs on this machine, every
time we switch IDs it adds to the count.

Since there is no way to shut this off, is there a way to change the number
of program closures before this prompt is displayed. It's getting to be a
pain in the A.

Larry

***
"Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23L8LQ$isIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
You can reset the reg count to 100 the same way to force a compact prompt.
As far as background compacting, you won't see the option as PA Bear pointed
out:

Disable Background Compacting [removed in WinXP SP2]

"Removed in WinXP SP2".
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"Larry" <reply@group.com> wrote in message
news:ui4f3OisIHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Unfortunately I had already reset the counter to zero by editing the
> registry so not sure if manually compacting has done the trick. Resetting
> the counter manually did work.
>
> The next time I compact, I will use the File|Folder|Compact all folders|
> procedure and report back at that time. I usually manually compact every
> 3
> or 4 days.
>
> BTW there is no longer an option to disable background compacting in
> Maintenance.
>
> Larry
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23IJA6efsIHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Larry, please let us know (by replying to this thread) if compacting all
> OE
> folders manually and frequently does not address this behavior. Thanks.
>
> General OE Caveats:
>
> - Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
> folders created for this purpose.
>
> - Empty Deleted Items folder daily.
>
> - Disable Background Compacting [removed in WinXP SP2] and frequently
> perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working offline". More
> at
> http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm
>
> - WinXP SP2 only: Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it occur, and
> do not attempt to close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if
> Automatic Compacting is taking place.
>
> - Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can cause
> corruption (i.e., loss of messages), it provides no additional protection,
> and even Symantec says it's not necessary:
>
> <QP>
> Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against viruses
> that
> are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect scans
> incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive, including email and
> email attachments. Email Scanning is just another layer on top of this. To
> make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep
> Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you have
> the most recent virus definitions.
> </QP>
> http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/docid/2002111812533106
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>
>
> Larry wrote:
>> Thanks Bruce, I look forward to the patch.
>>
>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:u3zHPZWsIHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Congrats. You are customer #1 on this issue! If you noticed, it never
>> completes.
>>
>> Compacting hangs on Folders.dbx after installing SP3 for XP:
>>
>> Until a patch is made available, compact your folders manually. The
>> counter
>> will be reset to zero, and a manual compact won't hang.
>>
>> Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are
>> open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
>> Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything
>> until
>> the compacting is completed.
>>
>> "Larry" <reply@group.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23PID$UWsIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Since I installed SP-3, OE is continually asking to compress folders,
>>> several times a day in fact. Even though I do compress them, when
>>> asked,
>>> it
>>> prompts me within a couple of hours to do it again.
>>>
>>> Anyone else getting this?
>>>
>>> How do I stop it from happening?
>>>
>>> Larry
>
>



Re: OE - Compress Folders after SP3 by Bruce

Bruce
Sat May 10 21:20:09 PDT 2008

I can't see how it can be reduced from 100 to 10, but switching identities
/does/ count.

Manually compact both identities. Open and close each one 5 times.

Go to: Start>Run>Regedit>OK and find this key.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities\{GUID for Identity
\Software\Microsoft\Outlook Express\5.0. In the right hand pane and find
*Compact Check Count*.

What do you see? it should be 5 or 6, not 50.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"Larry" <reply@group.com> wrote in message
news:OTBNHvxsIHA.1872@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> This is still triggering every day and it appears that the magic number
> has
> been reduced to 10 from 100. Since we have 2 IDs on this machine, every
> time we switch IDs it adds to the count.
>
> Since there is no way to shut this off, is there a way to change the
> number
> of program closures before this prompt is displayed. It's getting to be a
> pain in the A.
>
> Larry
>
> ***
> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:%23L8LQ$isIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> You can reset the reg count to 100 the same way to force a compact prompt.
> As far as background compacting, you won't see the option as PA Bear
> pointed
> out:
>
> Disable Background Compacting [removed in WinXP SP2]
>
> "Removed in WinXP SP2".
> --
> Bruce Hagen
> MS-MVP Outlook Express
> Imperial Beach, CA
>
>
> "Larry" <reply@group.com> wrote in message
> news:ui4f3OisIHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Unfortunately I had already reset the counter to zero by editing the
>> registry so not sure if manually compacting has done the trick.
>> Resetting
>> the counter manually did work.
>>
>> The next time I compact, I will use the File|Folder|Compact all folders|
>> procedure and report back at that time. I usually manually compact every
>> 3
>> or 4 days.
>>
>> BTW there is no longer an option to disable background compacting in
>> Maintenance.
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23IJA6efsIHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Larry, please let us know (by replying to this thread) if compacting all
>> OE
>> folders manually and frequently does not address this behavior. Thanks.
>>
>> General OE Caveats:
>>
>> - Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
>> folders created for this purpose.
>>
>> - Empty Deleted Items folder daily.
>>
>> - Disable Background Compacting [removed in WinXP SP2] and frequently
>> perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working offline". More
>> at
>> http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm
>>
>> - WinXP SP2 only: Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it occur,
>> and
>> do not attempt to close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if
>> Automatic Compacting is taking place.
>>
>> - Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can cause
>> corruption (i.e., loss of messages), it provides no additional
>> protection,
>> and even Symantec says it's not necessary:
>>
>> <QP>
>> Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against viruses
>> that
>> are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect scans
>> incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive, including email and
>> email attachments. Email Scanning is just another layer on top of this.
>> To
>> make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep
>> Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you have
>> the most recent virus definitions.
>> </QP>
>> http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/docid/2002111812533106
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>
>>
>> Larry wrote:
>>> Thanks Bruce, I look forward to the patch.
>>>
>>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:u3zHPZWsIHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Congrats. You are customer #1 on this issue! If you noticed, it never
>>> completes.
>>>
>>> Compacting hangs on Folders.dbx after installing SP3 for XP:
>>>
>>> Until a patch is made available, compact your folders manually. The
>>> counter
>>> will be reset to zero, and a manual compact won't hang.
>>>
>>> Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are
>>> open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
>>> Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything
>>> until
>>> the compacting is completed.
>>>
>>> "Larry" <reply@group.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23PID$UWsIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Since I installed SP-3, OE is continually asking to compress folders,
>>>> several times a day in fact. Even though I do compress them, when
>>>> asked,
>>>> it
>>>> prompts me within a couple of hours to do it again.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone else getting this?
>>>>
>>>> How do I stop it from happening?
>>>>
>>>> Larry
>>
>>
>
>


Re: OE - Compress Folders after SP3 by Larry

Larry
Sat May 10 22:21:23 PDT 2008

Yes that is exactly what I see. I changed IDs 4 times and 4 was in the
counter.

But, I also know we are not changing IDs 100 times a day, in fact no where
close to that figure, so it must be putting up the message at a number other
than 100. What I will do is look at the counter in the registry then next
time the prompt to compact shows up, and check out what the number actually
is when it happens. I'll get back to you when it happens with the info.

Why couldn't MS have changed the trigger number for this ??feature??

Larry


"Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23sAJG5xsIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
I can't see how it can be reduced from 100 to 10, but switching identities
/does/ count.

Manually compact both identities. Open and close each one 5 times.

Go to: Start>Run>Regedit>OK and find this key.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities\{GUID for Identity
\Software\Microsoft\Outlook Express\5.0. In the right hand pane and find
*Compact Check Count*.

What do you see? it should be 5 or 6, not 50.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"Larry" <reply@group.com> wrote in message
news:OTBNHvxsIHA.1872@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> This is still triggering every day and it appears that the magic number
> has
> been reduced to 10 from 100. Since we have 2 IDs on this machine, every
> time we switch IDs it adds to the count.
>
> Since there is no way to shut this off, is there a way to change the
> number
> of program closures before this prompt is displayed. It's getting to be a
> pain in the A.
>
> Larry
>
> ***
> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:%23L8LQ$isIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> You can reset the reg count to 100 the same way to force a compact prompt.
> As far as background compacting, you won't see the option as PA Bear
> pointed
> out:
>
> Disable Background Compacting [removed in WinXP SP2]
>
> "Removed in WinXP SP2".
> --
> Bruce Hagen
> MS-MVP Outlook Express
> Imperial Beach, CA
>
>
> "Larry" <reply@group.com> wrote in message
> news:ui4f3OisIHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Unfortunately I had already reset the counter to zero by editing the
>> registry so not sure if manually compacting has done the trick.
>> Resetting
>> the counter manually did work.
>>
>> The next time I compact, I will use the File|Folder|Compact all folders|
>> procedure and report back at that time. I usually manually compact every
>> 3
>> or 4 days.
>>
>> BTW there is no longer an option to disable background compacting in
>> Maintenance.
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23IJA6efsIHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Larry, please let us know (by replying to this thread) if compacting all
>> OE
>> folders manually and frequently does not address this behavior. Thanks.
>>
>> General OE Caveats:
>>
>> - Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
>> folders created for this purpose.
>>
>> - Empty Deleted Items folder daily.
>>
>> - Disable Background Compacting [removed in WinXP SP2] and frequently
>> perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working offline". More
>> at
>> http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm
>>
>> - WinXP SP2 only: Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it occur,
>> and
>> do not attempt to close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if
>> Automatic Compacting is taking place.
>>
>> - Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can cause
>> corruption (i.e., loss of messages), it provides no additional
>> protection,
>> and even Symantec says it's not necessary:
>>
>> <QP>
>> Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against viruses
>> that
>> are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect scans
>> incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive, including email and
>> email attachments. Email Scanning is just another layer on top of this.
>> To
>> make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep
>> Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you have
>> the most recent virus definitions.
>> </QP>
>> http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/docid/2002111812533106
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>
>>
>> Larry wrote:
>>> Thanks Bruce, I look forward to the patch.
>>>
>>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:u3zHPZWsIHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Congrats. You are customer #1 on this issue! If you noticed, it never
>>> completes.
>>>
>>> Compacting hangs on Folders.dbx after installing SP3 for XP:
>>>
>>> Until a patch is made available, compact your folders manually. The
>>> counter
>>> will be reset to zero, and a manual compact won't hang.
>>>
>>> Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are
>>> open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
>>> Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything
>>> until
>>> the compacting is completed.
>>>
>>> "Larry" <reply@group.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23PID$UWsIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Since I installed SP-3, OE is continually asking to compress folders,
>>>> several times a day in fact. Even though I do compress them, when
>>>> asked,
>>>> it
>>>> prompts me within a couple of hours to do it again.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone else getting this?
>>>>
>>>> How do I stop it from happening?
>>>>
>>>> Larry
>>
>>
>
>



Re: OE - Compress Folders after SP3 by Larry

Larry
Sat May 10 23:41:12 PDT 2008

Bruce,

Further Info re this:

I have done this as a test:
I have not changed IDs or closed OE but the counter has incremented to 6
after I reset it to zero by editing. All I have done is browse the internet
(Firefox) leaving OE open. The email/news has synced itself (set to check
email/news every 12 minutes) while I was doing this.

During all of this I kept regedit open and checked the counter by refreshing
it every few minutes. Even though I had not closed OE or changed IDs, the
counter incremented to 6, one at a time, for no reason. It took 20-25
minutes to get to 6.

One thing that I am positive that incremented it, is by going to screen
saver properties (rot click on desktop|properties|changed time from 15 to 10
minutes). I checked before and after doing this and it incremented by 1.

This gets stranger by the minute.

Larry

"Larry" <reply@group.com> wrote in message
news:OXKUhbysIHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
Yes that is exactly what I see. I changed IDs 4 times and 4 was in the
counter.

But, I also know we are not changing IDs 100 times a day, in fact no where
close to that figure, so it must be putting up the message at a number other
than 100. What I will do is look at the counter in the registry then next
time the prompt to compact shows up, and check out what the number actually
is when it happens. I'll get back to you when it happens with the info.

Why couldn't MS have changed the trigger number for this ??feature??

Larry


"Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23sAJG5xsIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
I can't see how it can be reduced from 100 to 10, but switching identities
/does/ count.

Manually compact both identities. Open and close each one 5 times.

Go to: Start>Run>Regedit>OK and find this key.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities\{GUID for Identity
\Software\Microsoft\Outlook Express\5.0. In the right hand pane and find
*Compact Check Count*.

What do you see? it should be 5 or 6, not 50.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"Larry" <reply@group.com> wrote in message
news:OTBNHvxsIHA.1872@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> This is still triggering every day and it appears that the magic number
> has
> been reduced to 10 from 100. Since we have 2 IDs on this machine, every
> time we switch IDs it adds to the count.
>
> Since there is no way to shut this off, is there a way to change the
> number
> of program closures before this prompt is displayed. It's getting to be a
> pain in the A.
>
> Larry
>
> ***
> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:%23L8LQ$isIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> You can reset the reg count to 100 the same way to force a compact prompt.
> As far as background compacting, you won't see the option as PA Bear
> pointed
> out:
>
> Disable Background Compacting [removed in WinXP SP2]
>
> "Removed in WinXP SP2".
> --
> Bruce Hagen
> MS-MVP Outlook Express
> Imperial Beach, CA
>
>
> "Larry" <reply@group.com> wrote in message
> news:ui4f3OisIHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Unfortunately I had already reset the counter to zero by editing the
>> registry so not sure if manually compacting has done the trick.
>> Resetting
>> the counter manually did work.
>>
>> The next time I compact, I will use the File|Folder|Compact all folders|
>> procedure and report back at that time. I usually manually compact every
>> 3
>> or 4 days.
>>
>> BTW there is no longer an option to disable background compacting in
>> Maintenance.
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23IJA6efsIHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Larry, please let us know (by replying to this thread) if compacting all
>> OE
>> folders manually and frequently does not address this behavior. Thanks.
>>
>> General OE Caveats:
>>
>> - Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
>> folders created for this purpose.
>>
>> - Empty Deleted Items folder daily.
>>
>> - Disable Background Compacting [removed in WinXP SP2] and frequently
>> perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working offline". More
>> at
>> http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm
>>
>> - WinXP SP2 only: Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it occur,
>> and
>> do not attempt to close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if
>> Automatic Compacting is taking place.
>>
>> - Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can cause
>> corruption (i.e., loss of messages), it provides no additional
>> protection,
>> and even Symantec says it's not necessary:
>>
>> <QP>
>> Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against viruses
>> that
>> are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect scans
>> incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive, including email and
>> email attachments. Email Scanning is just another layer on top of this.
>> To
>> make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep
>> Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you have
>> the most recent virus definitions.
>> </QP>
>> http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/docid/2002111812533106
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>
>>
>> Larry wrote:
>>> Thanks Bruce, I look forward to the patch.
>>>
>>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:u3zHPZWsIHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Congrats. You are customer #1 on this issue! If you noticed, it never
>>> completes.
>>>
>>> Compacting hangs on Folders.dbx after installing SP3 for XP:
>>>
>>> Until a patch is made available, compact your folders manually. The
>>> counter
>>> will be reset to zero, and a manual compact won't hang.
>>>
>>> Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are
>>> open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
>>> Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything
>>> until
>>> the compacting is completed.
>>>
>>> "Larry" <reply@group.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23PID$UWsIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Since I installed SP-3, OE is continually asking to compress folders,
>>>> several times a day in fact. Even though I do compress them, when
>>>> asked,
>>>> it
>>>> prompts me within a couple of hours to do it again.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone else getting this?
>>>>
>>>> How do I stop it from happening?
>>>>
>>>> Larry
>>
>>
>
>




Re: OE - Compress Folders after SP3 by Ron

Ron
Sun May 11 04:23:38 PDT 2008

You do realize that each Identity has Compact Check Count?
Compacting one Identity does not compact the other Identity.
As Bruce said, manually compact both Identities.
--
Ronald Sommer

"Larry" <reply@group.com> wrote in message
news:uMxzHIzsIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Bruce,
>
> Further Info re this:
>
> I have done this as a test:
> I have not changed IDs or closed OE but the counter has incremented to 6
> after I reset it to zero by editing. All I have done is browse the
> internet
> (Firefox) leaving OE open. The email/news has synced itself (set to check
> email/news every 12 minutes) while I was doing this.
>
> During all of this I kept regedit open and checked the counter by
> refreshing
> it every few minutes. Even though I had not closed OE or changed IDs, the
> counter incremented to 6, one at a time, for no reason. It took 20-25
> minutes to get to 6.
>
> One thing that I am positive that incremented it, is by going to screen
> saver properties (rot click on desktop|properties|changed time from 15 to
> 10
> minutes). I checked before and after doing this and it incremented by 1.
>
> This gets stranger by the minute.
>
> Larry
>
> "Larry" <reply@group.com> wrote in message
> news:OXKUhbysIHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Yes that is exactly what I see. I changed IDs 4 times and 4 was in the
> counter.
>
> But, I also know we are not changing IDs 100 times a day, in fact no where
> close to that figure, so it must be putting up the message at a number
> other
> than 100. What I will do is look at the counter in the registry then next
> time the prompt to compact shows up, and check out what the number
> actually
> is when it happens. I'll get back to you when it happens with the info.
>
> Why couldn't MS have changed the trigger number for this ??feature??
>
> Larry
>
>
> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:%23sAJG5xsIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> I can't see how it can be reduced from 100 to 10, but switching identities
> /does/ count.
>
> Manually compact both identities. Open and close each one 5 times.
>
> Go to: Start>Run>Regedit>OK and find this key.
>
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities\{GUID for Identity
> \Software\Microsoft\Outlook Express\5.0. In the right hand pane and find
> *Compact Check Count*.
>
> What do you see? it should be 5 or 6, not 50.
> --
> Bruce Hagen
> MS-MVP Outlook Express
> Imperial Beach, CA
>
>
> "Larry" <reply@group.com> wrote in message
> news:OTBNHvxsIHA.1872@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> This is still triggering every day and it appears that the magic number
>> has
>> been reduced to 10 from 100. Since we have 2 IDs on this machine, every
>> time we switch IDs it adds to the count.
>>
>> Since there is no way to shut this off, is there a way to change the
>> number
>> of program closures before this prompt is displayed. It's getting to be
>> a
>> pain in the A.
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> ***
>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:%23L8LQ$isIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> You can reset the reg count to 100 the same way to force a compact
>> prompt.
>> As far as background compacting, you won't see the option as PA Bear
>> pointed
>> out:
>>
>> Disable Background Compacting [removed in WinXP SP2]
>>
>> "Removed in WinXP SP2".
>> --
>> Bruce Hagen
>> MS-MVP Outlook Express
>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>
>>
>> "Larry" <reply@group.com> wrote in message
>> news:ui4f3OisIHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Unfortunately I had already reset the counter to zero by editing the
>>> registry so not sure if manually compacting has done the trick.
>>> Resetting
>>> the counter manually did work.
>>>
>>> The next time I compact, I will use the File|Folder|Compact all folders|
>>> procedure and report back at that time. I usually manually compact
>>> every
>>> 3
>>> or 4 days.

>>>
>>> BTW there is no longer an option to disable background compacting in
>>> Maintenance.
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23IJA6efsIHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Larry, please let us know (by replying to this thread) if compacting all
>>> OE
>>> folders manually and frequently does not address this behavior. Thanks.
>>>
>>> General OE Caveats:
>>>
>>> - Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
>>> folders created for this purpose.
>>>
>>> - Empty Deleted Items folder daily.
>>>
>>> - Disable Background Compacting [removed in WinXP SP2] and frequently
>>> perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working offline".
>>> More
>>> at
>>> http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm
>>>
>>> - WinXP SP2 only: Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it occur,
>>> and
>>> do not attempt to close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if
>>> Automatic Compacting is taking place.
>>>
>>> - Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can cause
>>> corruption (i.e., loss of messages), it provides no additional
>>> protection,
>>> and even Symantec says it's not necessary:
>>>
>>> <QP>
>>> Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against viruses
>>> that
>>> are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect
>>> scans
>>> incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive, including email and
>>> email attachments. Email Scanning is just another layer on top of this.
>>> To
>>> make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep
>>> Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you
>>> have
>>> the most recent virus definitions.
>>> </QP>
>>> http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/docid/2002111812533106
>>> --
>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>>
>>>
>>> Larry wrote:
>>>> Thanks Bruce, I look forward to the patch.
>>>>
>>>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:u3zHPZWsIHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Congrats. You are customer #1 on this issue! If you noticed, it never
>>>> completes.
>>>>
>>>> Compacting hangs on Folders.dbx after installing SP3 for XP:
>>>>
>>>> Until a patch is made available, compact your folders manually. The
>>>> counter
>>>> will be reset to zero, and a manual compact won't hang.
>>>>
>>>> Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders
>>>> are
>>>> open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
>>>> Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything
>>>> until
>>>> the compacting is completed.
>>>>
>>>> "Larry" <reply@group.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23PID$UWsIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Since I installed SP-3, OE is continually asking to compress folders,
>>>>> several times a day in fact. Even though I do compress them, when
>>>>> asked,
>>>>> it
>>>>> prompts me within a couple of hours to do it again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone else getting this?
>>>>>
>>>>> How do I stop it from happening?
>>>>>
>>>>> Larry
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

Re: OE - Compress Folders after SP3 by PA

PA
Sun May 11 11:52:44 PDT 2008

[I've read all replies as of this post.]

What anti-virus application or security suite is installed? What
anti-spyware applications (other than Defender)? What third-party firewall
(if any)? Were any of these applications running when you installed SP3?

Did you install SP3 via Windows Update or manually? Was the machine running
WinXP SP1 or WinXP SP2 before SP3 was installed? If WinXP SP2, was the
machine fully patched at Windows Update before SP3 was installed?

By any chance had you reinstalled WinXP SP2 or done a Repair Install
immediately prior to installing SP3?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/


Larry wrote:
> Since I installed SP-3, OE is continually asking to compress folders,
> several times a day in fact. Even though I do compress them, when asked,
> it
> prompts me within a couple of hours to do it again.
>
> Anyone else getting this?
>
> How do I stop it from happening?


Re: OE - Compress Folders after SP3 by Larry

Larry
Sun May 11 12:24:52 PDT 2008

Yes I am aware of the fact that both IDs have their own count. There is a
main ID and that is the one that OE usually has up except for the brief time
the other is checked.
--
Larry

"Ron Sommer" <rsommer@nospam.ktis.net> wrote in message
news:u5cZLn1sIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
You do realize that each Identity has Compact Check Count?
Compacting one Identity does not compact the other Identity.
As Bruce said, manually compact both Identities.
--
Ronald Sommer

"Larry" <reply@group.com> wrote in message
news:uMxzHIzsIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Bruce,
>
> Further Info re this:
>
> I have done this as a test:
> I have not changed IDs or closed OE but the counter has incremented to 6
> after I reset it to zero by editing. All I have done is browse the
> internet
> (Firefox) leaving OE open. The email/news has synced itself (set to check
> email/news every 12 minutes) while I was doing this.
>
> During all of this I kept regedit open and checked the counter by
> refreshing
> it every few minutes. Even though I had not closed OE or changed IDs, the
> counter incremented to 6, one at a time, for no reason. It took 20-25
> minutes to get to 6.
>
> One thing that I am positive that incremented it, is by going to screen
> saver properties (rot click on desktop|properties|changed time from 15 to
> 10
> minutes). I checked before and after doing this and it incremented by 1.
>
> This gets stranger by the minute.
>
> Larry
>
> "Larry" <reply@group.com> wrote in message
> news:OXKUhbysIHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Yes that is exactly what I see. I changed IDs 4 times and 4 was in the
> counter.
>
> But, I also know we are not changing IDs 100 times a day, in fact no where
> close to that figure, so it must be putting up the message at a number
> other
> than 100. What I will do is look at the counter in the registry then next
> time the prompt to compact shows up, and check out what the number
> actually
> is when it happens. I'll get back to you when it happens with the info.
>
> Why couldn't MS have changed the trigger number for this ??feature??
>
> Larry
>
>
> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:%23sAJG5xsIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> I can't see how it can be reduced from 100 to 10, but switching identities
> /does/ count.
>
> Manually compact both identities. Open and close each one 5 times.
>
> Go to: Start>Run>Regedit>OK and find this key.
>
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities\{GUID for Identity
> \Software\Microsoft\Outlook Express\5.0. In the right hand pane and find
> *Compact Check Count*.
>
> What do you see? it should be 5 or 6, not 50.
> --
> Bruce Hagen
> MS-MVP Outlook Express
> Imperial Beach, CA
>
>
> "Larry" <reply@group.com> wrote in message
> news:OTBNHvxsIHA.1872@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> This is still triggering every day and it appears that the magic number
>> has
>> been reduced to 10 from 100. Since we have 2 IDs on this machine, every
>> time we switch IDs it adds to the count.
>>
>> Since there is no way to shut this off, is there a way to change the
>> number
>> of program closures before this prompt is displayed. It's getting to be
>> a
>> pain in the A.
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> ***
>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:%23L8LQ$isIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> You can reset the reg count to 100 the same way to force a compact
>> prompt.
>> As far as background compacting, you won't see the option as PA Bear
>> pointed
>> out:
>>
>> Disable Background Compacting [removed in WinXP SP2]
>>
>> "Removed in WinXP SP2".
>> --
>> Bruce Hagen
>> MS-MVP Outlook Express
>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>
>>
>> "Larry" <reply@group.com> wrote in message
>> news:ui4f3OisIHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Unfortunately I had already reset the counter to zero by editing the
>>> registry so not sure if manually compacting has done the trick.
>>> Resetting
>>> the counter manually did work.
>>>
>>> The next time I compact, I will use the File|Folder|Compact all folders|
>>> procedure and report back at that time. I usually manually compact
>>> every
>>> 3
>>> or 4 days.

>>>
>>> BTW there is no longer an option to disable background compacting in
>>> Maintenance.
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23IJA6efsIHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Larry, please let us know (by replying to this thread) if compacting all
>>> OE
>>> folders manually and frequently does not address this behavior. Thanks.
>>>
>>> General OE Caveats:
>>>
>>> - Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
>>> folders created for this purpose.
>>>
>>> - Empty Deleted Items folder daily.
>>>
>>> - Disable Background Compacting [removed in WinXP SP2] and frequently
>>> perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working offline".
>>> More
>>> at
>>> http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm
>>>
>>> - WinXP SP2 only: Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it occur,
>>> and
>>> do not attempt to close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if
>>> Automatic Compacting is taking place.
>>>
>>> - Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can cause
>>> corruption (i.e., loss of messages), it provides no additional
>>> protection,
>>> and even Symantec says it's not necessary:
>>>
>>> <QP>
>>> Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against viruses
>>> that
>>> are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect
>>> scans
>>> incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive, including email and
>>> email attachments. Email Scanning is just another layer on top of this.
>>> To
>>> make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep
>>> Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you
>>> have
>>> the most recent virus definitions.
>>> </QP>
>>> http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/docid/2002111812533106
>>> --
>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>>
>>>
>>> Larry wrote:
>>>> Thanks Bruce, I look forward to the patch.
>>>>
>>>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:u3zHPZWsIHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Congrats. You are customer #1 on this issue! If you noticed, it never
>>>> completes.
>>>>
>>>> Compacting hangs on Folders.dbx after installing SP3 for XP:
>>>>
>>>> Until a patch is made available, compact your folders manually. The
>>>> counter
>>>> will be reset to zero, and a manual compact won't hang.
>>>>
>>>> Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders
>>>> are
>>>> open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
>>>> Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything
>>>> until
>>>> the compacting is completed.
>>>>
>>>> "Larry" <reply@group.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23PID$UWsIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Since I installed SP-3, OE is continually asking to compress folders,
>>>>> several times a day in fact. Even though I do compress them, when
>>>>> asked,
>>>>> it
>>>>> prompts me within a couple of hours to do it again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone else getting this?
>>>>>
>>>>> How do I stop it from happening?
>>>>>
>>>>> Larry
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>



Re: OE - Compress Folders after SP3 by Larry

Larry
Sun May 11 12:35:17 PDT 2008

Further to last night's info: By the time I was ready to shut down (about 2
hours after compacting), the count on the main ID had gone to 28. There was
only 2 changes of ID during that time so something else is incrementing this
counter. This did NOT happen before SP3 install. As I said before, the
counter increased by just changing the screen saver time via desktop|rt