Web page load problems

Whenever I open a new instance of IE it has problems loading. An IE6 screen
opens with the message in the task bar that the website has been found, but
the webpage doesn't load. If I right click on the task bar box for that
instance of IE6 it releases IE6 from the "holding pattern" it is in. If I
don't right click the webpage eventually loads two or three minutes later.

I am running Windows 2000 with all the updates applied. I had Norton
Antivirus 2000 loaded, but uninstalled it in the process of trying to debug
the problem. So now I have no antivirus, never had a firewall, and have no
spyware loaded.

Don
Mon Apr 14 03:21:28 PDT 2008

Hi,
Security programs can slow down the loading of webpages, but running (in
this day and age) without security programs is definitely not recommended.

Is NAV 2000 still updateable?

From Internet Options> Advanced> uncheck "Enable third-party browser
extensions." If this helps, you still need to find the troublesome toolbar,
program. BHO or add-on.
ToolbarCop from http://windowsxp.mvps.org/toolbarcop.htm will help identify
and remove add-ons.

Try clearing the Temporary Internet Files and History. Make sure the TIF
folder isn't too large. 50-100 MB recommended.
- - -
This may well be a malware problem. No malware removal program detects
everything.

See these sites for help *including* the posting of a HijackThis log to one
of the forums where HJT logs are analyzed:

The Parasite Fight http://www.aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm

Dealing with Unwanted Spyware and Parasites:
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm

Malware Removal and Prevention Overview - CastleCopsWiki:
http://wiki.castlecops.com/Malware_Removal_and_Prevention:_Overview

Bugs, Glitches & Stuffups: http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/Darnit.html

Removing Malware:
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Removing_Malware

Partial list of forums- there are others:
http://forum.aumha.org/viewforum.php?f=30
http://www.spywarewarrior.com/index.php
http://forums.whatthetech.com/forums.html
http://www.thespykiller.co.uk/index.php?board=3.0
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/
http://forums.spywareinfo.com/
http://gladiator-antivirus.com/forum/index.php?
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/forum22.html
http://castlecops.com/forum67.html

You will have to register to post to any of these forums and should look for
one or more "Important- Read this first" type messages, at whatever forum
you choose, for specific instructions.

Hope this helps,
Don
[MS MVP- IE]


"Matt Williams" <MattWilliams@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7802860B-5C5F-4CF1-9AA2-46CD96D9A326@microsoft.com...
> Whenever I open a new instance of IE it has problems loading. An IE6
screen
> opens with the message in the task bar that the website has been found,
but
> the webpage doesn't load. If I right click on the task bar box for that
> instance of IE6 it releases IE6 from the "holding pattern" it is in. If I
> don't right click the webpage eventually loads two or three minutes later.
>
> I am running Windows 2000 with all the updates applied. I had Norton
> Antivirus 2000 loaded, but uninstalled it in the process of trying to
debug
> the problem. So now I have no antivirus, never had a firewall, and have
no
> spyware loaded.

Mark
Mon Apr 14 07:06:00 PDT 2008

sI downloaded the critical updates from Microsoft two days ago. When I
rebooted after the download, I briefly received a message stating that a
google file could not be found. After this, Internet explorer takes 90 - 95
seconds to load a new browser page. Mozilla and Netscape load within 10 - 15
seconds. I have wiped all the cookies, temp files, etc and have reloaded
Internet Explorer three times. No change. I need to know then how to get
rid of the google tool bar and reinstall it. Any ideas.

"Don Varnau" wrote:

> Hi,
> Security programs can slow down the loading of webpages, but running (in
> this day and age) without security programs is definitely not recommended.
>
> Is NAV 2000 still updateable?
>
> From Internet Options> Advanced> uncheck "Enable third-party browser
> extensions." If this helps, you still need to find the troublesome toolbar,
> program. BHO or add-on.
> ToolbarCop from http://windowsxp.mvps.org/toolbarcop.htm will help identify
> and remove add-ons.
>
> Try clearing the Temporary Internet Files and History. Make sure the TIF
> folder isn't too large. 50-100 MB recommended.
> - - -
> This may well be a malware problem. No malware removal program detects
> everything.
>
> See these sites for help *including* the posting of a HijackThis log to one
> of the forums where HJT logs are analyzed:
>
> The Parasite Fight http://www.aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
>
> Dealing with Unwanted Spyware and Parasites:
> http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
>
> Malware Removal and Prevention Overview - CastleCopsWiki:
> http://wiki.castlecops.com/Malware_Removal_and_Prevention:_Overview
>
> Bugs, Glitches & Stuffups: http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/Darnit.html
>
> Removing Malware:
> http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Removing_Malware
>
> Partial list of forums- there are others:
> http://forum.aumha.org/viewforum.php?f=30
> http://www.spywarewarrior.com/index.php
> http://forums.whatthetech.com/forums.html
> http://www.thespykiller.co.uk/index.php?board=3.0
> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/
> http://forums.spywareinfo.com/
> http://gladiator-antivirus.com/forum/index.php?
> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/forum22.html
> http://castlecops.com/forum67.html
>
> You will have to register to post to any of these forums and should look for
> one or more "Important- Read this first" type messages, at whatever forum
> you choose, for specific instructions.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Don
> [MS MVP- IE]
>
>
> "Matt Williams" <MattWilliams@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7802860B-5C5F-4CF1-9AA2-46CD96D9A326@microsoft.com...
> > Whenever I open a new instance of IE it has problems loading. An IE6
> screen
> > opens with the message in the task bar that the website has been found,
> but
> > the webpage doesn't load. If I right click on the task bar box for that
> > instance of IE6 it releases IE6 from the "holding pattern" it is in. If I
> > don't right click the webpage eventually loads two or three minutes later.
> >
> > I am running Windows 2000 with all the updates applied. I had Norton
> > Antivirus 2000 loaded, but uninstalled it in the process of trying to
> debug
> > the problem. So now I have no antivirus, never had a firewall, and have
> no
> > spyware loaded.
>
>

David
Mon Apr 14 10:38:56 PDT 2008


"Mark A. Golden" <Mark A. Golden@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:592C2B14-76FA-4A3E-8BAF-C84D56C3E075@microsoft.com...
> sI downloaded the critical updates from Microsoft two days ago. When I
> rebooted after the download, I briefly received a message stating that a
> google file could not be found. After this, Internet explorer takes 90 - 95
> seconds to load a new browser page. Mozilla and Netscape load within 10 - 15
> seconds. I have wiped all the cookies, temp files, etc and have reloaded
> Internet Explorer three times. No change. I need to know then how to get
> rid of the google tool bar and reinstall it. Any ideas.

Just curious, why re-install it? What purpose is having the toolbar? What
functions do you gain that aren't available by simply surfing to google.com?




> "Don Varnau" wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > Security programs can slow down the loading of webpages, but running (in
> > this day and age) without security programs is definitely not recommended.
> >
> > Is NAV 2000 still updateable?
> >
> > From Internet Options> Advanced> uncheck "Enable third-party browser
> > extensions." If this helps, you still need to find the troublesome toolbar,
> > program. BHO or add-on.
> > ToolbarCop from http://windowsxp.mvps.org/toolbarcop.htm will help identify
> > and remove add-ons.
> >
> > Try clearing the Temporary Internet Files and History. Make sure the TIF
> > folder isn't too large. 50-100 MB recommended.
> > - - -
> > This may well be a malware problem. No malware removal program detects
> > everything.
> >
> > See these sites for help *including* the posting of a HijackThis log to one
> > of the forums where HJT logs are analyzed:
> >
> > The Parasite Fight http://www.aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
> >
> > Dealing with Unwanted Spyware and Parasites:
> > http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
> >
> > Malware Removal and Prevention Overview - CastleCopsWiki:
> > http://wiki.castlecops.com/Malware_Removal_and_Prevention:_Overview
> >
> > Bugs, Glitches & Stuffups: http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/Darnit.html
> >
> > Removing Malware:
> > http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Removing_Malware
> >
> > Partial list of forums- there are others:
> > http://forum.aumha.org/viewforum.php?f=30
> > http://www.spywarewarrior.com/index.php
> > http://forums.whatthetech.com/forums.html
> > http://www.thespykiller.co.uk/index.php?board=3.0
> > http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/
> > http://forums.spywareinfo.com/
> > http://gladiator-antivirus.com/forum/index.php?
> > http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/forum22.html
> > http://castlecops.com/forum67.html
> >
> > You will have to register to post to any of these forums and should look for
> > one or more "Important- Read this first" type messages, at whatever forum
> > you choose, for specific instructions.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> > Don
> > [MS MVP- IE]
> >
> >
> > "Matt Williams" <MattWilliams@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:7802860B-5C5F-4CF1-9AA2-46CD96D9A326@microsoft.com...
> > > Whenever I open a new instance of IE it has problems loading. An IE6
> > screen
> > > opens with the message in the task bar that the website has been found,
> > but
> > > the webpage doesn't load. If I right click on the task bar box for that
> > > instance of IE6 it releases IE6 from the "holding pattern" it is in. If I
> > > don't right click the webpage eventually loads two or three minutes later.
> > >
> > > I am running Windows 2000 with all the updates applied. I had Norton
> > > Antivirus 2000 loaded, but uninstalled it in the process of trying to
> > debug
> > > the problem. So now I have no antivirus, never had a firewall, and have
> > no
> > > spyware loaded.
> >
> >

MarkAGolden
Mon Apr 14 12:40:02 PDT 2008

Google gives me a pop up blocker and a few other things that I like. But
after uninstalling google I did not have the problem. Then I tsted the cause
by downloading the latest ggogle tool bar and the problem began again. So
google is the problem and I guess until they fix the problem, I will not use
the google tool bar.

"David Morgan (MAMS)" wrote:

>
> "Mark A. Golden" <Mark A. Golden@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:592C2B14-76FA-4A3E-8BAF-C84D56C3E075@microsoft.com...
> > sI downloaded the critical updates from Microsoft two days ago. When I
> > rebooted after the download, I briefly received a message stating that a
> > google file could not be found. After this, Internet explorer takes 90 - 95
> > seconds to load a new browser page. Mozilla and Netscape load within 10 - 15
> > seconds. I have wiped all the cookies, temp files, etc and have reloaded
> > Internet Explorer three times. No change. I need to know then how to get
> > rid of the google tool bar and reinstall it. Any ideas.
>
> Just curious, why re-install it? What purpose is having the toolbar? What
> functions do you gain that aren't available by simply surfing to google.com?
>
>
>
>
> > "Don Varnau" wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > > Security programs can slow down the loading of webpages, but running (in
> > > this day and age) without security programs is definitely not recommended.
> > >
> > > Is NAV 2000 still updateable?
> > >
> > > From Internet Options> Advanced> uncheck "Enable third-party browser
> > > extensions." If this helps, you still need to find the troublesome toolbar,
> > > program. BHO or add-on.
> > > ToolbarCop from http://windowsxp.mvps.org/toolbarcop.htm will help identify
> > > and remove add-ons.
> > >
> > > Try clearing the Temporary Internet Files and History. Make sure the TIF
> > > folder isn't too large. 50-100 MB recommended.
> > > - - -
> > > This may well be a malware problem. No malware removal program detects
> > > everything.
> > >
> > > See these sites for help *including* the posting of a HijackThis log to one
> > > of the forums where HJT logs are analyzed:
> > >
> > > The Parasite Fight http://www.aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
> > >
> > > Dealing with Unwanted Spyware and Parasites:
> > > http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
> > >
> > > Malware Removal and Prevention Overview - CastleCopsWiki:
> > > http://wiki.castlecops.com/Malware_Removal_and_Prevention:_Overview
> > >
> > > Bugs, Glitches & Stuffups: http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/Darnit.html
> > >
> > > Removing Malware:
> > > http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Removing_Malware
> > >
> > > Partial list of forums- there are others:
> > > http://forum.aumha.org/viewforum.php?f=30
> > > http://www.spywarewarrior.com/index.php
> > > http://forums.whatthetech.com/forums.html
> > > http://www.thespykiller.co.uk/index.php?board=3.0
> > > http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/
> > > http://forums.spywareinfo.com/
> > > http://gladiator-antivirus.com/forum/index.php?
> > > http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/forum22.html
> > > http://castlecops.com/forum67.html
> > >
> > > You will have to register to post to any of these forums and should look for
> > > one or more "Important- Read this first" type messages, at whatever forum
> > > you choose, for specific instructions.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps,
> > > Don
> > > [MS MVP- IE]
> > >
> > >
> > > "Matt Williams" <MattWilliams@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:7802860B-5C5F-4CF1-9AA2-46CD96D9A326@microsoft.com...
> > > > Whenever I open a new instance of IE it has problems loading. An IE6
> > > screen
> > > > opens with the message in the task bar that the website has been found,
> > > but
> > > > the webpage doesn't load. If I right click on the task bar box for that
> > > > instance of IE6 it releases IE6 from the "holding pattern" it is in. If I
> > > > don't right click the webpage eventually loads two or three minutes later.
> > > >
> > > > I am running Windows 2000 with all the updates applied. I had Norton
> > > > Antivirus 2000 loaded, but uninstalled it in the process of trying to
> > > debug
> > > > the problem. So now I have no antivirus, never had a firewall, and have
> > > no
> > > > spyware loaded.
> > >
> > >
>
>
>

MarkAGolden
Mon Apr 14 12:43:01 PDT 2008

Matt, I had the same problem and found out that my google toolbar was the
problem. Go to the toolbar area right mouse click and uncheck the google
tool bar. This will stop the long delay in starting Internet Explorer until
a fix is found. Hope this helps you and solves part of your problem.

"Matt Williams" wrote:

> Whenever I open a new instance of IE it has problems loading. An IE6 screen
> opens with the message in the task bar that the website has been found, but
> the webpage doesn't load. If I right click on the task bar box for that
> instance of IE6 it releases IE6 from the "holding pattern" it is in. If I
> don't right click the webpage eventually loads two or three minutes later.
>
> I am running Windows 2000 with all the updates applied. I had Norton
> Antivirus 2000 loaded, but uninstalled it in the process of trying to debug
> the problem. So now I have no antivirus, never had a firewall, and have no
> spyware loaded.

MattWilliams
Mon Apr 14 17:35:01 PDT 2008

Mark, that solved it. After I confirmed that was the source of the problem,
I went one step further and uninstalled the Google Toolbar completely. To
the best of my knowledge I never used it, so removing it seemed to make
sense.

Thanks again.

Matt

"Mark A. Golden" wrote:

> Matt, I had the same problem and found out that my google toolbar was the
> problem. Go to the toolbar area right mouse click and uncheck the google
> tool bar. This will stop the long delay in starting Internet Explorer until
> a fix is found. Hope this helps you and solves part of your problem.
>
> "Matt Williams" wrote:
>
> > Whenever I open a new instance of IE it has problems loading. An IE6 screen
> > opens with the message in the task bar that the website has been found, but
> > the webpage doesn't load. If I right click on the task bar box for that
> > instance of IE6 it releases IE6 from the "holding pattern" it is in. If I
> > don't right click the webpage eventually loads two or three minutes later.
> >
> > I am running Windows 2000 with all the updates applied. I had Norton
> > Antivirus 2000 loaded, but uninstalled it in the process of trying to debug
> > the problem. So now I have no antivirus, never had a firewall, and have no
> > spyware loaded.

MattWilliams
Mon Apr 14 17:37:01 PDT 2008

I don't know about NAV 2000, but NAV 2005 definitely is.

BTW, as I noted in my other thread, I don't usually run "naked." but was
doing so in order to simplify the problem diagnosis.

Matt

"Don Varnau" wrote:

> Hi,
> Security programs can slow down the loading of webpages, but running (in
> this day and age) without security programs is definitely not recommended.
>
> Is NAV 2000 still updateable?
>
> From Internet Options> Advanced> uncheck "Enable third-party browser
> extensions." If this helps, you still need to find the troublesome toolbar,
> program. BHO or add-on.
> ToolbarCop from http://windowsxp.mvps.org/toolbarcop.htm will help identify
> and remove add-ons.
>
> Try clearing the Temporary Internet Files and History. Make sure the TIF
> folder isn't too large. 50-100 MB recommended.
> - - -
> This may well be a malware problem. No malware removal program detects
> everything.
>
> See these sites for help *including* the posting of a HijackThis log to one
> of the forums where HJT logs are analyzed:
>
> The Parasite Fight http://www.aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
>
> Dealing with Unwanted Spyware and Parasites:
> http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
>
> Malware Removal and Prevention Overview - CastleCopsWiki:
> http://wiki.castlecops.com/Malware_Removal_and_Prevention:_Overview
>
> Bugs, Glitches & Stuffups: http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/Darnit.html
>
> Removing Malware:
> http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Removing_Malware
>
> Partial list of forums- there are others:
> http://forum.aumha.org/viewforum.php?f=30
> http://www.spywarewarrior.com/index.php
> http://forums.whatthetech.com/forums.html
> http://www.thespykiller.co.uk/index.php?board=3.0
> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/
> http://forums.spywareinfo.com/
> http://gladiator-antivirus.com/forum/index.php?
> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/forum22.html
> http://castlecops.com/forum67.html
>
> You will have to register to post to any of these forums and should look for
> one or more "Important- Read this first" type messages, at whatever forum
> you choose, for specific instructions.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Don
> [MS MVP- IE]
>
>
> "Matt Williams" <MattWilliams@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7802860B-5C5F-4CF1-9AA2-46CD96D9A326@microsoft.com...
> > Whenever I open a new instance of IE it has problems loading. An IE6
> screen
> > opens with the message in the task bar that the website has been found,
> but
> > the webpage doesn't load. If I right click on the task bar box for that
> > instance of IE6 it releases IE6 from the "holding pattern" it is in. If I
> > don't right click the webpage eventually loads two or three minutes later.
> >
> > I am running Windows 2000 with all the updates applied. I had Norton
> > Antivirus 2000 loaded, but uninstalled it in the process of trying to
> debug
> > the problem. So now I have no antivirus, never had a firewall, and have
> no
> > spyware loaded.
>
>

David
Mon Apr 14 21:48:15 PDT 2008


"Mark A. Golden" <MarkAGolden@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote...

> Google gives me a pop up blocker and a few other things that I like. But
> after uninstalling google I did not have the problem. Then I tsted the cause
> by downloading the latest ggogle tool bar and the problem began again. So
> google is the problem and I guess until they fix the problem, I will not use
> the google tool bar.

It merely gives them access to follow your search and surf habits.

Google is Google... they have no right to be inside of your computer...
simply go there when you need them.

Cheers



> "David Morgan (MAMS)" wrote:
>
> >
> > "Mark A. Golden" <Mark A. Golden@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:592C2B14-76FA-4A3E-8BAF-C84D56C3E075@microsoft.com...
> > > sI downloaded the critical updates from Microsoft two days ago. When I
> > > rebooted after the download, I briefly received a message stating that a
> > > google file could not be found. After this, Internet explorer takes 90 - 95
> > > seconds to load a new browser page. Mozilla and Netscape load within 10 - 15
> > > seconds. I have wiped all the cookies, temp files, etc and have reloaded
> > > Internet Explorer three times. No change. I need to know then how to get
> > > rid of the google tool bar and reinstall it. Any ideas.
> >
> > Just curious, why re-install it? What purpose is having the toolbar? What
> > functions do you gain that aren't available by simply surfing to google.com?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > "Don Varnau" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > Security programs can slow down the loading of webpages, but running (in
> > > > this day and age) without security programs is definitely not recommended.
> > > >
> > > > Is NAV 2000 still updateable?
> > > >
> > > > From Internet Options> Advanced> uncheck "Enable third-party browser
> > > > extensions." If this helps, you still need to find the troublesome toolbar,
> > > > program. BHO or add-on.
> > > > ToolbarCop from http://windowsxp.mvps.org/toolbarcop.htm will help identify
> > > > and remove add-ons.
> > > >
> > > > Try clearing the Temporary Internet Files and History. Make sure the TIF
> > > > folder isn't too large. 50-100 MB recommended.
> > > > - - -
> > > > This may well be a malware problem. No malware removal program detects
> > > > everything.
> > > >
> > > > See these sites for help *including* the posting of a HijackThis log to one
> > > > of the forums where HJT logs are analyzed:
> > > >
> > > > The Parasite Fight http://www.aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
> > > >
> > > > Dealing with Unwanted Spyware and Parasites:
> > > > http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
> > > >
> > > > Malware Removal and Prevention Overview - CastleCopsWiki:
> > > > http://wiki.castlecops.com/Malware_Removal_and_Prevention:_Overview
> > > >
> > > > Bugs, Glitches & Stuffups: http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/Darnit.html
> > > >
> > > > Removing Malware:
> > > > http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Removing_Malware
> > > >
> > > > Partial list of forums- there are others:
> > > > http://forum.aumha.org/viewforum.php?f=30
> > > > http://www.spywarewarrior.com/index.php
> > > > http://forums.whatthetech.com/forums.html
> > > > http://www.thespykiller.co.uk/index.php?board=3.0
> > > > http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/
> > > > http://forums.spywareinfo.com/
> > > > http://gladiator-antivirus.com/forum/index.php?
> > > > http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/forum22.html
> > > > http://castlecops.com/forum67.html
> > > >
> > > > You will have to register to post to any of these forums and should look for
> > > > one or more "Important- Read this first" type messages, at whatever forum
> > > > you choose, for specific instructions.
> > > >
> > > > Hope this helps,
> > > > Don
> > > > [MS MVP- IE]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Matt Williams" <MattWilliams@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:7802860B-5C5F-4CF1-9AA2-46CD96D9A326@microsoft.com...
> > > > > Whenever I open a new instance of IE it has problems loading. An IE6
> > > > screen
> > > > > opens with the message in the task bar that the website has been found,
> > > > but
> > > > > the webpage doesn't load. If I right click on the task bar box for that
> > > > > instance of IE6 it releases IE6 from the "holding pattern" it is in. If I
> > > > > don't right click the webpage eventually loads two or three minutes later.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am running Windows 2000 with all the updates applied. I had Norton
> > > > > Antivirus 2000 loaded, but uninstalled it in the process of trying to
> > > > debug
> > > > > the problem. So now I have no antivirus, never had a firewall, and have
> > > > no
> > > > > spyware loaded.
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >

David
Mon Apr 14 21:51:39 PDT 2008


"Matt Williams" <MattWilliams@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote

> BTW, as I noted in my other thread, I don't usually run "naked." but was
> doing so in order to simplify the problem diagnosis.

I am in my 8th year of going naked on Win 2K.... Ad Aware Free installed
and kept up to date since around 6 years ago, and that's all. It's all about
safely using your mail programs and doing the ocassional 'on-line' virus
scan and not giving over your PC to the invasiveness of AV. The least
obnoxious seems to be AVG if you must have an on-board scanner.

DM

David
Mon Apr 14 21:53:16 PDT 2008


"Matt Williams" <MattWilliams@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote...

> Mark, that solved it. After I confirmed that was the source of the problem,
> I went one step further and uninstalled the Google Toolbar completely. To
> the best of my knowledge I never used it, so removing it seemed to make
> sense.

Are you comfortable in the 2K registry?? If so, Google is not truly gone
until it's cleaned up.

DM

MattWilliams
Tue Apr 15 06:56:01 PDT 2008

Thanks for that heads up David. I will run Uniblue RegistryBooster2 one more
time then.

Matt

"David Morgan (MAMS)" wrote:

>
> "Matt Williams" <MattWilliams@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote...
>
> > Mark, that solved it. After I confirmed that was the source of the problem,
> > I went one step further and uninstalled the Google Toolbar completely. To
> > the best of my knowledge I never used it, so removing it seemed to make
> > sense.
>
> Are you comfortable in the 2K registry?? If so, Google is not truly gone
> until it's cleaned up.
>
> DM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

MattWilliams
Tue Apr 15 06:59:02 PDT 2008

AVG was suggested by the ATT Support Plus folks for just that reason.
Norton's anti-worm feature regularly sees the normal ATT DSL signals as worms
and breaks the signal thereby disconnecting the system from the ISP.

Matt

"David Morgan (MAMS)" wrote:

>
> "Matt Williams" <MattWilliams@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>
> > BTW, as I noted in my other thread, I don't usually run "naked." but was
> > doing so in order to simplify the problem diagnosis.
>
> I am in my 8th year of going naked on Win 2K.... Ad Aware Free installed
> and kept up to date since around 6 years ago, and that's all. It's all about
> safely using your mail programs and doing the ocassional 'on-line' virus
> scan and not giving over your PC to the invasiveness of AV. The least
> obnoxious seems to be AVG if you must have an on-board scanner.
>
> DM
>
>
>
>
>

David
Tue Apr 15 11:26:36 PDT 2008


"Matt Williams" <MattWilliams@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:4BAC1EAB-AD99-4FB7-9A8A-5107ED29A1FF@microsoft.com...

> AVG was suggested by the ATT Support Plus folks for just that reason.
> Norton's anti-worm feature regularly sees the normal ATT DSL signals as worms
> and breaks the signal thereby disconnecting the system from the ISP.

Norton and McAfee are both notorius for not only bogging down the OS,
but for deciding that they have complete control over a number of functions
that would otherwise operate smoothly and safely.

I don't run any AV on my 98SE and 2K systems, but I do have *available*
(as in NOT automated or active) the AVG Free on all of my XP boxes.
I still prefer to do on-line checks with Symantec Security Center.

jeff
Sat May 10 12:36:00 PDT 2008

Matt & Mark Thank you. I have had the same problem for about 2 weeks and have
been turning my system inside out trying to resolve it. Have been to MS site
several time looking for solutions and finally found your disscussion.
Turning off the google tool bar fixed my problem. Just a note for others.
When I went to turn off the google tool bar, it did not say google. Just a
check mark next to nothing! Maybe I caused that, but I don't think so.
On the bright side I removed and cleaned up a bunch of clutter inside my
system and now it runs faster.

"Mark A. Golden" wrote:

> Matt, I had the same problem and found out that my google toolbar was the
> problem. Go to the toolbar area right mouse click and uncheck the google
> tool bar. This will stop the long delay in starting Internet Explorer until
> a fix is found. Hope this helps you and solves part of your problem.
>
> "Matt Williams" wrote:
>
> > Whenever I open a new instance of IE it has problems loading. An IE6 screen
> > opens with the message in the task bar that the website has been found, but
> > the webpage doesn't load. If I right click on the task bar box for that
> > instance of IE6 it releases IE6 from the "holding pattern" it is in. If I
> > don't right click the webpage eventually loads two or three minutes later.
> >
> > I am running Windows 2000 with all the updates applied. I had Norton
> > Antivirus 2000 loaded, but uninstalled it in the process of trying to debug
> > the problem. So now I have no antivirus, never had a firewall, and have no
> > spyware loaded.