IE Standards Conformance

Dear Microsoft people,

please, I am begging you, please make the Internet Explorer conform to all
the WC3 standards soon.
Up to now your browser is still giving me a huge headache every time I
develop a new web page.
It's very (very!) frustrating that 50% of all development time for an
arbitrary html page is lost making this page work on IE after it already
works on all the other browsers out there.
Just to get the point right: I develop it once and it works on all the
browsers just like that, except on the IE. And for the IE I have to
practically redevelop it and confuse all my clean code.

This has to stop somewhere. I am begging you.
Please address this.

If you're concerned about backwards compatibility, which you should be, I
suggest that you make IE 8 and 9 fully backwards compatible with previous
versions by default.
However, programmers should get the possibility to set a flag for each HTML
page by which IE is switched to something you might call "WC3-Mode". In that
mode, IE should behave like Mozilla Firefox, Safari, and all the other
standards conformant browsers. I mean, I don't need your competitors to make
my point. The point is: Just conform to the standard, PLEASE!

I beg you again! Please address this soon. The Internet is full of pages
about IE bugs. (Example: http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer.html)
Why haven't you been doing much about it in the past?
Please do it now! Fix these bugs and inconsistencies with the standard.

Thank you very much in advance.

T.L.
(from Germany)

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C
Thu Mar 27 15:17:30 PDT 2008

T.L. wrote:
> Dear Microsoft people,
>
> please, I am begging you, please make the Internet Explorer conform to all
> the WC3 standards soon.
> Up to now your browser is still giving me a huge headache every time I
> develop a new web page.
> It's very (very!) frustrating that 50% of all development time for an
> arbitrary html page is lost making this page work on IE after it already
> works on all the other browsers out there.
> Just to get the point right: I develop it once and it works on all the
> browsers just like that, except on the IE. And for the IE I have to
> practically redevelop it and confuse all my clean code.
>
> This has to stop somewhere. I am begging you.

I agree that IE should comply with standards, but my experience is that
far less than 50% of my time must be spent making current versions of IE
render pages reasonably: 5% or less, and much of that time is coping
with IE 5.

Also, even if IE8 were to comply 100% today, people will continue to use
older versions for several years at least, so a standards-compliant IE8
will not create instant nirvana.

Leonard
Thu Mar 27 16:47:04 PDT 2008

You have written to your fellow users. We are unable to make Internet
Explorer conform to anything.

---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

T.L. wrote:
> Dear Microsoft people,
>
> please, I am begging you, please make the Internet Explorer conform to all
> the WC3 standards soon.
> Up to now your browser is still giving me a huge headache every time I
> develop a new web page.
> It's very (very!) frustrating that 50% of all development time for an
> arbitrary html page is lost making this page work on IE after it already
> works on all the other browsers out there.
> Just to get the point right: I develop it once and it works on all the
> browsers just like that, except on the IE. And for the IE I have to
> practically redevelop it and confuse all my clean code.
>
> This has to stop somewhere. I am begging you.
> Please address this.
>
> If you're concerned about backwards compatibility, which you should be, I
> suggest that you make IE 8 and 9 fully backwards compatible with previous
> versions by default.
> However, programmers should get the possibility to set a flag for each HTML
> page by which IE is switched to something you might call "WC3-Mode". In that
> mode, IE should behave like Mozilla Firefox, Safari, and all the other
> standards conformant browsers. I mean, I don't need your competitors to make
> my point. The point is: Just conform to the standard, PLEASE!
>
> I beg you again! Please address this soon. The Internet is full of pages
> about IE bugs. (Example: http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer.html)
> Why haven't you been doing much about it in the past?
> Please do it now! Fix these bugs and inconsistencies with the standard.
>
> Thank you very much in advance.
>
> T.L.
> (from Germany)
>
> ----------------
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> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.aspx?mid=80630a6b-db4b-49e9-a51e-baa350be00af&dg=microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general

VanguardLH
Thu Mar 27 17:00:13 PDT 2008

"T.L." <T.L.@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:80630A6B-DB4B-49E9-A51E-BAA350BE00AF@microsoft.com...
> Dear Microsoft people,
>
> please, I am begging you, please make the Internet Explorer conform to
> all
> the WC3 standards soon.

<snip>

So what do you want a community of peer users to do about it? That's
where you are whining.

Frank
Thu Mar 27 17:54:45 PDT 2008

"T.L." <T.L.@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:80630A6B-DB4B-49E9-A51E-BAA350BE00AF@microsoft.com...
> Dear Microsoft people,
>
> please, I am begging you, please make the Internet Explorer conform to all
> the WC3 standards soon.
> Up to now your browser is still giving me a huge headache every time I
> develop a new web page.
> It's very (very!) frustrating that 50% of all development time for an
> arbitrary html page is lost making this page work on IE after it already
> works on all the other browsers out there.
> Just to get the point right: I develop it once and it works on all the
> browsers just like that, except on the IE. And for the IE I have to
> practically redevelop it and confuse all my clean code.
>
> This has to stop somewhere. I am begging you.
> Please address this.
>
> If you're concerned about backwards compatibility, which you should be, I
> suggest that you make IE 8 and 9 fully backwards compatible with previous
> versions by default.
> However, programmers should get the possibility to set a flag for each
> HTML
> page by which IE is switched to something you might call "WC3-Mode". In
> that
> mode, IE should behave like Mozilla Firefox, Safari, and all the other
> standards conformant browsers. I mean, I don't need your competitors to
> make
> my point. The point is: Just conform to the standard, PLEASE!

They are working on it. Honest.
IE8 beta 1 passes one of the Acid 2 tests and they're working on Acid 3.

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