windows 2000 mixed to windows 2000 native question

I'm about to promote my domain to windows 2000 native and had a few
questions.

We have 6 domain controllers.. 4 windows 2000 SP4 and 2 windows 2003 (one
is r2 sp2..) the other I believe is just win2k3 sp2.

I just finished cleaning up the AD metadata with ntdsutil for all our old
DC's that don't exist. We have no NT4 machines in our domain(all are
2000+).. I've read that I initiate the change from the DC that holds the
FSMO and pdc emulator roles... so im clear on that..

what im not clear on is.. I read someplace that "all DC's need to be
rebooted after they display "native mode" after the domain level is raised
on the PDC emulator." I've been working on this sporadically... so it is
entirely possible that I dreamt this one night during an AD nightmare... I
just spent an hour trying to find this blurb on the net.. and I can't which
is why I think I dreamt it.. any thoughts there would be appreciated..

When I raise the domain functional level to windows 2000 native.. will the
forest functional level automatically be raised? or do I need to raise that
separately? Will it really be as simple as raising the level on my one
win2k3 DC(which is the fsmo/pdc emu dc..) and just watching replication
occur?

I think I'm over exciting myself for this and looking for crazy things to
happen when it should be a non-event.

S
Fri May 02 01:45:35 PDT 2008

Forest not equals domain. Other than that, no reboot required, AFAIR.

--
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-= F1 is the key =-

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"infinitiguy" <derek@iona.com> wrote in message
news:305671B2-807E-4D8B-9F2D-1751DA77E943@microsoft.com...
> I'm about to promote my domain to windows 2000 native and had a few
> questions.
>
> We have 6 domain controllers.. 4 windows 2000 SP4 and 2 windows 2003 (one
> is r2 sp2..) the other I believe is just win2k3 sp2.
>
> I just finished cleaning up the AD metadata with ntdsutil for all our old
> DC's that don't exist. We have no NT4 machines in our domain(all are
> 2000+).. I've read that I initiate the change from the DC that holds the
> FSMO and pdc emulator roles... so im clear on that..
>
> what im not clear on is.. I read someplace that "all DC's need to be
> rebooted after they display "native mode" after the domain level is raised
> on the PDC emulator." I've been working on this sporadically... so it is
> entirely possible that I dreamt this one night during an AD nightmare...
> I just spent an hour trying to find this blurb on the net.. and I can't
> which is why I think I dreamt it.. any thoughts there would be
> appreciated..
>
> When I raise the domain functional level to windows 2000 native.. will the
> forest functional level automatically be raised? or do I need to raise
> that separately? Will it really be as simple as raising the level on my
> one win2k3 DC(which is the fsmo/pdc emu dc..) and just watching
> replication occur?
>
> I think I'm over exciting myself for this and looking for crazy things to
> happen when it should be a non-event.
>
>

infinitiguy
Fri May 02 08:44:00 PDT 2008

I know forest doesn't equal domain. I guess the question was silly.. I
think I answered it myself. My forest is windows 2000 and domain is windows
2000 mixed.. when I go to windows 2000 native my forest will stay windows
2000 until I upgrade my win2k DC's to 2k3... then I should be able to move my
domain to windows 2003 native(which should make my forest win2k3...)

"S. Pidgorny <MVP>" wrote:

> Forest not equals domain. Other than that, no reboot required, AFAIR.
>
> --
> Svyatoslav Pidgorny, MS MVP - Security, MCSE
> -= F1 is the key =-
>
> * http://sl.mvps.org * http://msmvps.com/blogs/sp *
>
>
> "infinitiguy" <derek@iona.com> wrote in message
> news:305671B2-807E-4D8B-9F2D-1751DA77E943@microsoft.com...
> > I'm about to promote my domain to windows 2000 native and had a few
> > questions.
> >
> > We have 6 domain controllers.. 4 windows 2000 SP4 and 2 windows 2003 (one
> > is r2 sp2..) the other I believe is just win2k3 sp2.
> >
> > I just finished cleaning up the AD metadata with ntdsutil for all our old
> > DC's that don't exist. We have no NT4 machines in our domain(all are
> > 2000+).. I've read that I initiate the change from the DC that holds the
> > FSMO and pdc emulator roles... so im clear on that..
> >
> > what im not clear on is.. I read someplace that "all DC's need to be
> > rebooted after they display "native mode" after the domain level is raised
> > on the PDC emulator." I've been working on this sporadically... so it is
> > entirely possible that I dreamt this one night during an AD nightmare...
> > I just spent an hour trying to find this blurb on the net.. and I can't
> > which is why I think I dreamt it.. any thoughts there would be
> > appreciated..
> >
> > When I raise the domain functional level to windows 2000 native.. will the
> > forest functional level automatically be raised? or do I need to raise
> > that separately? Will it really be as simple as raising the level on my
> > one win2k3 DC(which is the fsmo/pdc emu dc..) and just watching
> > replication occur?
> >
> > I think I'm over exciting myself for this and looking for crazy things to
> > happen when it should be a non-event.
> >
> >
>
>
>

infinitiguy
Wed May 07 20:56:53 PDT 2008

made the domain native.. everything worked great.. only thing we noticed
after the fact was we had recently implemented a password policy that
requires "complex" passwords.. and this apparently got removed because I had
a user today that reset his password to something non-complex(as he told me
what it was working on a separate issue..) not a big deal.. we can
re-instate it.. just thought it was interesting.


"infinitiguy" <infinitiguy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BAF30863-9102-448B-B979-8B53D7BF14B6@microsoft.com...
>I know forest doesn't equal domain. I guess the question was silly.. I
> think I answered it myself. My forest is windows 2000 and domain is
> windows
> 2000 mixed.. when I go to windows 2000 native my forest will stay windows
> 2000 until I upgrade my win2k DC's to 2k3... then I should be able to move
> my
> domain to windows 2003 native(which should make my forest win2k3...)
>
> "S. Pidgorny <MVP>" wrote:
>
>> Forest not equals domain. Other than that, no reboot required, AFAIR.
>>
>> --
>> Svyatoslav Pidgorny, MS MVP - Security, MCSE
>> -= F1 is the key =-
>>
>> * http://sl.mvps.org * http://msmvps.com/blogs/sp *
>>
>>
>> "infinitiguy" <derek@iona.com> wrote in message
>> news:305671B2-807E-4D8B-9F2D-1751DA77E943@microsoft.com...
>> > I'm about to promote my domain to windows 2000 native and had a few
>> > questions.
>> >
>> > We have 6 domain controllers.. 4 windows 2000 SP4 and 2 windows 2003
>> > (one
>> > is r2 sp2..) the other I believe is just win2k3 sp2.
>> >
>> > I just finished cleaning up the AD metadata with ntdsutil for all our
>> > old
>> > DC's that don't exist. We have no NT4 machines in our domain(all are
>> > 2000+).. I've read that I initiate the change from the DC that holds
>> > the
>> > FSMO and pdc emulator roles... so im clear on that..
>> >
>> > what im not clear on is.. I read someplace that "all DC's need to be
>> > rebooted after they display "native mode" after the domain level is
>> > raised
>> > on the PDC emulator." I've been working on this sporadically... so it
>> > is
>> > entirely possible that I dreamt this one night during an AD
>> > nightmare...
>> > I just spent an hour trying to find this blurb on the net.. and I can't
>> > which is why I think I dreamt it.. any thoughts there would be
>> > appreciated..
>> >
>> > When I raise the domain functional level to windows 2000 native.. will
>> > the
>> > forest functional level automatically be raised? or do I need to raise
>> > that separately? Will it really be as simple as raising the level on
>> > my
>> > one win2k3 DC(which is the fsmo/pdc emu dc..) and just watching
>> > replication occur?
>> >
>> > I think I'm over exciting myself for this and looking for crazy things
>> > to
>> > happen when it should be a non-event.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>

Jorge
Sun May 18 14:10:38 PDT 2008

reboots are NOT required! where did you read that? or was it a bad
nightmare? ;-)

DFL increase does not automatically increase the FFL

--

Cheers,
(HOPEFULLY THIS INFORMATION HELPS YOU!)

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"infinitiguy" <derek@iona.com> wrote in message
news:305671B2-807E-4D8B-9F2D-1751DA77E943@microsoft.com...
> I'm about to promote my domain to windows 2000 native and had a few
> questions.
>
> We have 6 domain controllers.. 4 windows 2000 SP4 and 2 windows 2003 (one
> is r2 sp2..) the other I believe is just win2k3 sp2.
>
> I just finished cleaning up the AD metadata with ntdsutil for all our old
> DC's that don't exist. We have no NT4 machines in our domain(all are
> 2000+).. I've read that I initiate the change from the DC that holds the
> FSMO and pdc emulator roles... so im clear on that..
>
> what im not clear on is.. I read someplace that "all DC's need to be
> rebooted after they display "native mode" after the domain level is raised
> on the PDC emulator." I've been working on this sporadically... so it is
> entirely possible that I dreamt this one night during an AD nightmare...
> I just spent an hour trying to find this blurb on the net.. and I can't
> which is why I think I dreamt it.. any thoughts there would be
> appreciated..
>
> When I raise the domain functional level to windows 2000 native.. will the
> forest functional level automatically be raised? or do I need to raise
> that separately? Will it really be as simple as raising the level on my
> one win2k3 DC(which is the fsmo/pdc emu dc..) and just watching
> replication occur?
>
> I think I'm over exciting myself for this and looking for crazy things to
> happen when it should be a non-event.
>
>

infinitiguy
Tue May 20 20:28:57 PDT 2008

well, before the promo I tried to find the reboot note.. and couldn't, so I
have to assume it was a bad nightmare..

with all that's going on, I have alot of nightmares lately about microsoft
services :)

We've done more to our AD domain in the last month then we've done in 6
years... a fair bit nerve racking :)


"Jorge de Almeida Pinto [MVP - DS]"
<SubstituteThisWithMyFullNameSeparatedByDots@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OA%23yvvSuIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> reboots are NOT required! where did you read that? or was it a bad
> nightmare? ;-)
>
> DFL increase does not automatically increase the FFL
>
> --
>
> Cheers,
> (HOPEFULLY THIS INFORMATION HELPS YOU!)
>
> # Jorge de Almeida Pinto # MVP Identity & Access - Directory Services #
>
> BLOG (WEB-BASED)--> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/default.aspx
> BLOG (RSS-FEEDS)--> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/rss.aspx
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> rights!
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> "infinitiguy" <derek@iona.com> wrote in message
> news:305671B2-807E-4D8B-9F2D-1751DA77E943@microsoft.com...
>> I'm about to promote my domain to windows 2000 native and had a few
>> questions.
>>
>> We have 6 domain controllers.. 4 windows 2000 SP4 and 2 windows 2003
>> (one is r2 sp2..) the other I believe is just win2k3 sp2.
>>
>> I just finished cleaning up the AD metadata with ntdsutil for all our old
>> DC's that don't exist. We have no NT4 machines in our domain(all are
>> 2000+).. I've read that I initiate the change from the DC that holds the
>> FSMO and pdc emulator roles... so im clear on that..
>>
>> what im not clear on is.. I read someplace that "all DC's need to be
>> rebooted after they display "native mode" after the domain level is
>> raised on the PDC emulator." I've been working on this sporadically...
>> so it is entirely possible that I dreamt this one night during an AD
>> nightmare... I just spent an hour trying to find this blurb on the net..
>> and I can't which is why I think I dreamt it.. any thoughts there would
>> be appreciated..
>>
>> When I raise the domain functional level to windows 2000 native.. will
>> the forest functional level automatically be raised? or do I need to
>> raise that separately? Will it really be as simple as raising the level
>> on my one win2k3 DC(which is the fsmo/pdc emu dc..) and just watching
>> replication occur?
>>
>> I think I'm over exciting myself for this and looking for crazy things to
>> happen when it should be a non-event.
>>
>>
>

Jorge
Tue May 20 23:38:24 PDT 2008

> with all that's going on, I have alot of nightmares lately about microsoft
> services :)

why?

in my opinion, that is with everything technology or vendor, as long as you
do your homework (research, tests, etc) you should be fine. Rush things and
you will probably pay for it later

--

Cheers,
(HOPEFULLY THIS INFORMATION HELPS YOU!)

# Jorge de Almeida Pinto # MVP Identity & Access - Directory Services #

BLOG (WEB-BASED)--> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/default.aspx
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"infinitiguy" <derek@iona.com> wrote in message
news:B2C5FB09-A34B-458F-9EAE-466356ECD6CE@microsoft.com...
> well, before the promo I tried to find the reboot note.. and couldn't, so
> I have to assume it was a bad nightmare..
>
> with all that's going on, I have alot of nightmares lately about microsoft
> services :)
>
> We've done more to our AD domain in the last month then we've done in 6
> years... a fair bit nerve racking :)
>
>
> "Jorge de Almeida Pinto [MVP - DS]"
> <SubstituteThisWithMyFullNameSeparatedByDots@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OA%23yvvSuIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> reboots are NOT required! where did you read that? or was it a bad
>> nightmare? ;-)
>>
>> DFL increase does not automatically increase the FFL
>>
>> --
>>
>> Cheers,
>> (HOPEFULLY THIS INFORMATION HELPS YOU!)
>>
>> # Jorge de Almeida Pinto # MVP Identity & Access - Directory Services #
>>
>> BLOG (WEB-BASED)--> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/default.aspx
>> BLOG (RSS-FEEDS)--> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/rss.aspx
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> * How to ask a question --> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=555375
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> * This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties and confers no
>> rights!
>> * Always test ANY suggestion in a test environment before implementing!
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> #################################################
>> #################################################
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> "infinitiguy" <derek@iona.com> wrote in message
>> news:305671B2-807E-4D8B-9F2D-1751DA77E943@microsoft.com...
>>> I'm about to promote my domain to windows 2000 native and had a few
>>> questions.
>>>
>>> We have 6 domain controllers.. 4 windows 2000 SP4 and 2 windows 2003
>>> (one is r2 sp2..) the other I believe is just win2k3 sp2.
>>>
>>> I just finished cleaning up the AD metadata with ntdsutil for all our
>>> old DC's that don't exist. We have no NT4 machines in our domain(all
>>> are 2000+).. I've read that I initiate the change from the DC that
>>> holds the FSMO and pdc emulator roles... so im clear on that..
>>>
>>> what im not clear on is.. I read someplace that "all DC's need to be
>>> rebooted after they display "native mode" after the domain level is
>>> raised on the PDC emulator." I've been working on this sporadically...
>>> so it is entirely possible that I dreamt this one night during an AD
>>> nightmare... I just spent an hour trying to find this blurb on the net..
>>> and I can't which is why I think I dreamt it.. any thoughts there would
>>> be appreciated..
>>>
>>> When I raise the domain functional level to windows 2000 native.. will
>>> the forest functional level automatically be raised? or do I need to
>>> raise that separately? Will it really be as simple as raising the level
>>> on my one win2k3 DC(which is the fsmo/pdc emu dc..) and just watching
>>> replication occur?
>>>
>>> I think I'm over exciting myself for this and looking for crazy things
>>> to happen when it should be a non-event.
>>>
>>>
>>
>

infinitiguy
Wed May 21 19:23:14 PDT 2008

To be honest, alot probably stems from a member of my team who worrys too
much.. and that worry bleeds into me and causes unnecesarry paranoia.

I generally obsess and over research(if there ever is such a thing) so I
generally feel pretty comfortable.. but I'm learning alot of new things in a
very short amount of time, while trying to juggle a million other things.
I'm just tired :)




"Jorge de Almeida Pinto [MVP - DS]"
<SubstituteThisWithMyFullNameSeparatedByDots@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eIMyZ1wuIHA.5876@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> with all that's going on, I have alot of nightmares lately about
>> microsoft services :)
>
> why?
>
> in my opinion, that is with everything technology or vendor, as long as
> you do your homework (research, tests, etc) you should be fine. Rush
> things and you will probably pay for it later