We inherited an NT domain that had been upgraded directly to 2003. Users
that have been added since the upgrade get the new username@domain fields
populated under Users & Computers; the old NT users only have the pre-Windows
2000 domain\username fields populated. Will bumpting the domain/forest
functional level up from 2003 Interim fix this? I bumped into some odd ACLs
needed by a NAS box that allow only the new AD nomenclature ...

Justin
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Homepage: http://appstate.edu/~jp59031/

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week." - Ignignokt

Re: NT domain users missing username@domain entries by Paul

Paul
Thu Jun 19 10:16:37 PDT 2008

No, you have to manually add.

--
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MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
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"vap0rtranz" <justin4dti@hotmail.com.> wrote in message
news:E7D8F117-640B-4B7C-B541-219B6BB07D23@microsoft.com...
> We inherited an NT domain that had been upgraded directly to 2003. Users
> that have been added since the upgrade get the new username@domain fields
> populated under Users & Computers; the old NT users only have the
> pre-Windows
> 2000 domain\username fields populated. Will bumpting the domain/forest
> functional level up from 2003 Interim fix this? I bumped into some odd
> ACLs
> needed by a NAS box that allow only the new AD nomenclature ...
>
> Justin
> --
> AIM/YIM/ICQ: vap0rtranz
> Homepage: http://appstate.edu/~jp59031/
>
> "Here on the moon, our weekends are so advanced, they encompass the entire
> week." - Ignignokt



Re: NT domain users missing username@domain entries by Jorge

Jorge
Thu Jun 19 13:02:02 PDT 2008

some explanation here:

A user principal name (UPN) is a variation of a user account name that looks
like an e-mail name but can be used to log on to a domain. The syntax is
<username>@<string>. UPNs allow you to use the same logon name across
different domains in the same forest or in different forests.

Two types of UPNs exist:
â?¢ Implicit UPN: Has the form â??username@FQDNDomainNameâ??. The implicit UPN is
always associated with the userâ??s account, regardless of whether an explicit
UPN is defined.
â?¢ Explicit UPN: Has the form â??userIDstring@FQDNstringâ??. Both â??userIDstringâ??
and â??FQDNstringâ?? (UPN suffix) are explicitly defined by the administrator.
That information is stored in the userPrincipalName attribute

configuring the explicit UPN is a manual configuration and does not occur
automagically ;-)

--

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"vap0rtranz" <justin4dti@hotmail.com.> wrote in message
news:E7D8F117-640B-4B7C-B541-219B6BB07D23@microsoft.com...
> We inherited an NT domain that had been upgraded directly to 2003. Users
> that have been added since the upgrade get the new username@domain fields
> populated under Users & Computers; the old NT users only have the
> pre-Windows
> 2000 domain\username fields populated. Will bumpting the domain/forest
> functional level up from 2003 Interim fix this? I bumped into some odd
> ACLs
> needed by a NAS box that allow only the new AD nomenclature ...
>
> Justin
> --
> AIM/YIM/ICQ: vap0rtranz
> Homepage: http://appstate.edu/~jp59031/
>
> "Here on the moon, our weekends are so advanced, they encompass the entire
> week." - Ignignokt


Re: NT domain users missing username@domain entries by justin4dti

justin4dti
Fri Jun 20 05:52:00 PDT 2008

Thank the gods for VB and the AD APIs, otherwise this would be a pain.

Justin
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week." - Ignignokt


"Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" wrote:

> No, you have to manually add.
>
> --
> Paul Bergson
> MVP - Directory Services
> MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
> 2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4
>
> http://www.pbbergs.com
>
> Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>
> "vap0rtranz" <justin4dti@hotmail.com.> wrote in message
> news:E7D8F117-640B-4B7C-B541-219B6BB07D23@microsoft.com...
> > We inherited an NT domain that had been upgraded directly to 2003. Users
> > that have been added since the upgrade get the new username@domain fields
> > populated under Users & Computers; the old NT users only have the
> > pre-Windows
> > 2000 domain\username fields populated. Will bumpting the domain/forest
> > functional level up from 2003 Interim fix this? I bumped into some odd
> > ACLs
> > needed by a NAS box that allow only the new AD nomenclature ...
> >
> > Justin
> > --
> > AIM/YIM/ICQ: vap0rtranz
> > Homepage: http://appstate.edu/~jp59031/
> >
> > "Here on the moon, our weekends are so advanced, they encompass the entire
> > week." - Ignignokt
>
>
>

Re: NT domain users missing username@domain entries by justin4dti

justin4dti
Fri Jun 20 05:53:01 PDT 2008

Good info Jorge. So these old NT users need a UPN before we can expect
logons to always work correctly across trusted domains?

Justin
--
AIM/YIM/ICQ: vap0rtranz
Homepage: http://appstate.edu/~jp59031/

"Here on the moon, our weekends are so advanced, they encompass the entire
week." - Ignignokt


"Jorge de Almeida Pinto [MVP - DS]" wrote:

> some explanation here:
>
> A user principal name (UPN) is a variation of a user account name that looks
> like an e-mail name but can be used to log on to a domain. The syntax is
> <username>@<string>. UPNs allow you to use the same logon name across
> different domains in the same forest or in different forests.
>
> Two types of UPNs exist:
> â?¢ Implicit UPN: Has the form â??username@FQDNDomainNameâ??. The implicit UPN is
> always associated with the userâ??s account, regardless of whether an explicit
> UPN is defined.
> â?¢ Explicit UPN: Has the form â??userIDstring@FQDNstringâ??. Both â??userIDstringâ??
> and â??FQDNstringâ?? (UPN suffix) are explicitly defined by the administrator.
> That information is stored in the userPrincipalName attribute
>
> configuring the explicit UPN is a manual configuration and does not occur
> automagically ;-)
>
> --
>
> Cheers,
> (HOPEFULLY THIS INFORMATION HELPS YOU!)
>
> # Jorge de Almeida Pinto # MVP Identity & Access - Directory Services #
>
> BLOG (WEB-BASED)--> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/default.aspx
> BLOG (RSS-FEEDS)--> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/rss.aspx
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> * This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties and confers no rights!
> * Always test ANY suggestion in a test environment before implementing!
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> #################################################
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> "vap0rtranz" <justin4dti@hotmail.com.> wrote in message
> news:E7D8F117-640B-4B7C-B541-219B6BB07D23@microsoft.com...
> > We inherited an NT domain that had been upgraded directly to 2003. Users
> > that have been added since the upgrade get the new username@domain fields
> > populated under Users & Computers; the old NT users only have the
> > pre-Windows
> > 2000 domain\username fields populated. Will bumpting the domain/forest
> > functional level up from 2003 Interim fix this? I bumped into some odd
> > ACLs
> > needed by a NAS box that allow only the new AD nomenclature ...
> >
> > Justin
> > --
> > AIM/YIM/ICQ: vap0rtranz
> > Homepage: http://appstate.edu/~jp59031/
> >
> > "Here on the moon, our weekends are so advanced, they encompass the entire
> > week." - Ignignokt
>
>

Re: NT domain users missing username@domain entries by Paul

Paul
Fri Jun 20 06:05:16 PDT 2008

you could just use domain name\user id

--
Paul Bergson
MVP - Directory Services
MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4

http://www.pbbergs.com

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"vap0rtranz" <justin4dti@hotmail.com.> wrote in message
news:41943AED-FD3A-4F24-8CAF-6C8DA792F8E9@microsoft.com...
> Good info Jorge. So these old NT users need a UPN before we can expect
> logons to always work correctly across trusted domains?
>
> Justin
> --
> AIM/YIM/ICQ: vap0rtranz
> Homepage: http://appstate.edu/~jp59031/
>
> "Here on the moon, our weekends are so advanced, they encompass the entire
> week." - Ignignokt
>
>
> "Jorge de Almeida Pinto [MVP - DS]" wrote:
>
>> some explanation here:
>>
>> A user principal name (UPN) is a variation of a user account name that
>> looks
>> like an e-mail name but can be used to log on to a domain. The syntax is
>> <username>@<string>. UPNs allow you to use the same logon name across
>> different domains in the same forest or in different forests.
>>
>> Two types of UPNs exist:
>> . Implicit UPN: Has the form "username@FQDNDomainName". The implicit UPN
>> is
>> always associated with the user's account, regardless of whether an
>> explicit
>> UPN is defined.
>> . Explicit UPN: Has the form "userIDstring@FQDNstring". Both
>> "userIDstring"
>> and "FQDNstring" (UPN suffix) are explicitly defined by the
>> administrator.
>> That information is stored in the userPrincipalName attribute
>>
>> configuring the explicit UPN is a manual configuration and does not occur
>> automagically ;-)
>>
>> --
>>
>> Cheers,
>> (HOPEFULLY THIS INFORMATION HELPS YOU!)
>>
>> # Jorge de Almeida Pinto # MVP Identity & Access - Directory Services #
>>
>> BLOG (WEB-BASED)--> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/default.aspx
>> BLOG (RSS-FEEDS)--> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/rss.aspx
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> * How to ask a question --> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=555375
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> * This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties and confers no
>> rights!
>> * Always test ANY suggestion in a test environment before implementing!
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> #################################################
>> #################################################
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> "vap0rtranz" <justin4dti@hotmail.com.> wrote in message
>> news:E7D8F117-640B-4B7C-B541-219B6BB07D23@microsoft.com...
>> > We inherited an NT domain that had been upgraded directly to 2003.
>> > Users
>> > that have been added since the upgrade get the new username@domain
>> > fields
>> > populated under Users & Computers; the old NT users only have the
>> > pre-Windows
>> > 2000 domain\username fields populated. Will bumpting the domain/forest
>> > functional level up from 2003 Interim fix this? I bumped into some odd
>> > ACLs
>> > needed by a NAS box that allow only the new AD nomenclature ...
>> >
>> > Justin
>> > --
>> > AIM/YIM/ICQ: vap0rtranz
>> > Homepage: http://appstate.edu/~jp59031/
>> >
>> > "Here on the moon, our weekends are so advanced, they encompass the
>> > entire
>> > week." - Ignignokt
>>
>>



Re: NT domain users missing username@domain entries by Jorge

Jorge
Fri Jun 20 08:58:17 PDT 2008

nope, you could still use the IMPLICIT UPN which is there automatically....

lets say your AD domain is called: AD.MYCOMPANY.COM
lets say yout SMTP domain is called: MYCOOLCOMPANY.COM
lets say the user has the samaccountname: MYUSER
lets say the users' mail is: MY.SPECIAL.USER@MYCOOLCOMPANY.COM

the IMPLICIT upn = MYUSER@AD.MYCOMPANY.COM (this is just there under the
covers)

the explicit UPN COULD BE: MY.SPECIAL.USER@MYCOOLCOMPANY.COM (the same as
the mail address, IF YOU WANT TO!)

What can you do configure explicit UPNs:
(1) Use some LDAP write tool and populate the userPrincipalName attribute
with whatever you want
(2) Configure a UPN suffix at forest level (done with DOMAIN.MSC and it is
just an administrative thing, nothing special) which then will show up in
ADUC or when creating a user using ADUC
(3) Configure a UPN suffix at OU level (done with ADSIEDIT.MSC and it is
just an administrative thing, nothing special) which then will show up in
ADUC or when creating a user using ADUC
(4) A combination of 2 and 3

also read the multiple forests whitepaper which contains more info about
this
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/technologies/directory/activedirectory/mtfstwp.mspx
--

Cheers,
(HOPEFULLY THIS INFORMATION HELPS YOU!)

# Jorge de Almeida Pinto # MVP Identity & Access - Directory Services #

BLOG (WEB-BASED)--> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/default.aspx
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------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"vap0rtranz" <justin4dti@hotmail.com.> wrote in message
news:41943AED-FD3A-4F24-8CAF-6C8DA792F8E9@microsoft.com...
> Good info Jorge. So these old NT users need a UPN before we can expect
> logons to always work correctly across trusted domains?
>
> Justin
> --
> AIM/YIM/ICQ: vap0rtranz
> Homepage: http://appstate.edu/~jp59031/
>
> "Here on the moon, our weekends are so advanced, they encompass the entire
> week." - Ignignokt
>
>
> "Jorge de Almeida Pinto [MVP - DS]" wrote:
>
>> some explanation here:
>>
>> A user principal name (UPN) is a variation of a user account name that
>> looks
>> like an e-mail name but can be used to log on to a domain. The syntax is
>> <username>@<string>. UPNs allow you to use the same logon name across
>> different domains in the same forest or in different forests.
>>
>> Two types of UPNs exist:
>> â?¢ Implicit UPN: Has the form â??username@FQDNDomainNameâ??. The implicit UPN
>> is
>> always associated with the userâ??s account, regardless of whether an
>> explicit
>> UPN is defined.
>> â?¢ Explicit UPN: Has the form â??userIDstring@FQDNstringâ??. Both
>> â??userIDstringâ??
>> and â??FQDNstringâ?? (UPN suffix) are explicitly defined by the
>> administrator.
>> That information is stored in the userPrincipalName attribute
>>
>> configuring the explicit UPN is a manual configuration and does not occur
>> automagically ;-)
>>
>> --
>>
>> Cheers,
>> (HOPEFULLY THIS INFORMATION HELPS YOU!)
>>
>> # Jorge de Almeida Pinto # MVP Identity & Access - Directory Services #
>>
>> BLOG (WEB-BASED)--> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/default.aspx
>> BLOG (RSS-FEEDS)--> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/rss.aspx
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> * How to ask a question --> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=555375
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> * This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties and confers no
>> rights!
>> * Always test ANY suggestion in a test environment before implementing!
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> #################################################
>> #################################################
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> "vap0rtranz" <justin4dti@hotmail.com.> wrote in message
>> news:E7D8F117-640B-4B7C-B541-219B6BB07D23@microsoft.com...
>> > We inherited an NT domain that had been upgraded directly to 2003.
>> > Users
>> > that have been added since the upgrade get the new username@domain
>> > fields
>> > populated under Users & Computers; the old NT users only have the
>> > pre-Windows
>> > 2000 domain\username fields populated. Will bumpting the domain/forest
>> > functional level up from 2003 Interim fix this? I bumped into some odd
>> > ACLs
>> > needed by a NAS box that allow only the new AD nomenclature ...
>> >
>> > Justin
>> > --
>> > AIM/YIM/ICQ: vap0rtranz
>> > Homepage: http://appstate.edu/~jp59031/
>> >
>> > "Here on the moon, our weekends are so advanced, they encompass the
>> > entire
>> > week." - Ignignokt
>>
>>


Re: NT domain users missing username@domain entries by Paul

Paul
Sun Jun 22 20:41:38 PDT 2008

I didn't realize it is implicititly there.

--
Paul Bergson
MVP - Directory Services
MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4

http://www.pbbergs.com

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This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

"Jorge de Almeida Pinto [MVP - DS]"
<SubstituteThisWithMyFullNameSeparatedByDots@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23kcSL6u0IHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> nope, you could still use the IMPLICIT UPN which is there
> automatically....
>
> lets say your AD domain is called: AD.MYCOMPANY.COM
> lets say yout SMTP domain is called: MYCOOLCOMPANY.COM
> lets say the user has the samaccountname: MYUSER
> lets say the users' mail is: MY.SPECIAL.USER@MYCOOLCOMPANY.COM
>
> the IMPLICIT upn = MYUSER@AD.MYCOMPANY.COM (this is just there under the
> covers)
>
> the explicit UPN COULD BE: MY.SPECIAL.USER@MYCOOLCOMPANY.COM (the same as
> the mail address, IF YOU WANT TO!)
>
> What can you do configure explicit UPNs:
> (1) Use some LDAP write tool and populate the userPrincipalName attribute
> with whatever you want
> (2) Configure a UPN suffix at forest level (done with DOMAIN.MSC and it is
> just an administrative thing, nothing special) which then will show up in
> ADUC or when creating a user using ADUC
> (3) Configure a UPN suffix at OU level (done with ADSIEDIT.MSC and it is
> just an administrative thing, nothing special) which then will show up in
> ADUC or when creating a user using ADUC
> (4) A combination of 2 and 3
>
> also read the multiple forests whitepaper which contains more info about
> this
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/technologies/directory/activedirectory/mtfstwp.mspx
> --
>
> Cheers,
> (HOPEFULLY THIS INFORMATION HELPS YOU!)
>
> # Jorge de Almeida Pinto # MVP Identity & Access - Directory Services #
>
> BLOG (WEB-BASED)--> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/default.aspx
> BLOG (RSS-FEEDS)--> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/rss.aspx
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> * How to ask a question --> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=555375
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> * This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties and confers no
> rights!
> * Always test ANY suggestion in a test environment before implementing!
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> #################################################
> #################################################
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> "vap0rtranz" <justin4dti@hotmail.com.> wrote in message
> news:41943AED-FD3A-4F24-8CAF-6C8DA792F8E9@microsoft.com...
>> Good info Jorge. So these old NT users need a UPN before we can expect
>> logons to always work correctly across trusted domains?
>>
>> Justin
>> --
>> AIM/YIM/ICQ: vap0rtranz
>> Homepage: http://appstate.edu/~jp59031/
>>
>> "Here on the moon, our weekends are so advanced, they encompass the
>> entire
>> week." - Ignignokt
>>
>>
>> "Jorge de Almeida Pinto [MVP - DS]" wrote:
>>
>>> some explanation here:
>>>
>>> A user principal name (UPN) is a variation of a user account name that
>>> looks
>>> like an e-mail name but can be used to log on to a domain. The syntax is
>>> <username>@<string>. UPNs allow you to use the same logon name across
>>> different domains in the same forest or in different forests.
>>>
>>> Two types of UPNs exist:
>>> . Implicit UPN: Has the form "username@FQDNDomainName". The implicit UPN
>>> is
>>> always associated with the user's account, regardless of whether an
>>> explicit
>>> UPN is defined.
>>> . Explicit UPN: Has the form "userIDstring@FQDNstring". Both
>>> "userIDstring"
>>> and "FQDNstring" (UPN suffix) are explicitly defined by the
>>> administrator.
>>> That information is stored in the userPrincipalName attribute
>>>
>>> configuring the explicit UPN is a manual configuration and does not
>>> occur
>>> automagically ;-)
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> (HOPEFULLY THIS INFORMATION HELPS YOU!)
>>>
>>> # Jorge de Almeida Pinto # MVP Identity & Access - Directory Services #
>>>
>>> BLOG (WEB-BASED)--> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/default.aspx
>>> BLOG (RSS-FEEDS)--> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/rss.aspx
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> * How to ask a question --> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=555375
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> * This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties and confers no
>>> rights!
>>> * Always test ANY suggestion in a test environment before implementing!
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> #################################################
>>> #################################################
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> "vap0rtranz" <justin4dti@hotmail.com.> wrote in message
>>> news:E7D8F117-640B-4B7C-B541-219B6BB07D23@microsoft.com...
>>> > We inherited an NT domain that had been upgraded directly to 2003.
>>> > Users
>>> > that have been added since the upgrade get the new username@domain
>>> > fields
>>> > populated under Users & Computers; the old NT users only have the
>>> > pre-Windows
>>> > 2000 domain\username fields populated. Will bumpting the
>>> > domain/forest
>>> > functional level up from 2003 Interim fix this? I bumped into some odd
>>> > ACLs
>>> > needed by a NAS box that allow only the new AD nomenclature ...
>>> >
>>> > Justin
>>> > --
>>> > AIM/YIM/ICQ: vap0rtranz
>>> > Homepage: http://appstate.edu/~jp59031/
>>> >
>>> > "Here on the moon, our weekends are so advanced, they encompass the
>>> > entire
>>> > week." - Ignignokt
>>>
>>>
>