SMTP must define new domain to use???

Could someone clarify the below statement.
Do you have to add a new domain if you need to use a site that is only able
to connect using smtp??.

STATEMENT:
Whether link is SMTP-only. If a location is connected by SMTP-only links, it
must have its own domain. Mail-based replication can occur only between
domains; it cannot be used between domain controllers in the same domain.

Chriss3
Sun Mar 20 10:04:27 CST 2005

The statement is correct. SMTP based replication can only be used for
inter-site replication.

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Christoffer Andersson
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services

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"BINZA@" <mark1.smith(remove this)@virgin.net> skrev i meddelandet
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> Could someone clarify the below statement.
> Do you have to add a new domain if you need to use a site that is only
> able to connect using smtp??.
>
> STATEMENT:
> Whether link is SMTP-only. If a location is connected by SMTP-only links,
> it must have its own domain. Mail-based replication can occur only between
> domains; it cannot be used between domain controllers in the same domain.
>
>
>

BINZA
Sun Mar 20 10:39:49 CST 2005

You have not answered my question.
i know that you do not use smtp in an intrasite situation ie: you have to
define a separate site which then has to be bridged using rpc or smtp.
My question is as statement says do you have to define a NEW DOMAIN for the
site ??.


"Chriss3 [MVP]" <noSpamHere@chrisse.se> wrote in message
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> The statement is correct. SMTP based replication can only be used for
> inter-site replication.
>
> --
> Regards
> Christoffer Andersson
> Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
>
> No email replies please - reply in the newsgroup
> ------------------------------------------------
> http://www.chrisse.se - Active Directory Tips
>
> "BINZA@" <mark1.smith(remove this)@virgin.net> skrev i meddelandet
> news:d1k4br$g9b$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk...
>> Could someone clarify the below statement.
>> Do you have to add a new domain if you need to use a site that is only
>> able to connect using smtp??.
>>
>> STATEMENT:
>> Whether link is SMTP-only. If a location is connected by SMTP-only links,
>> it must have its own domain. Mail-based replication can occur only
>> between domains; it cannot be used between domain controllers in the same
>> domain.
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Chriss3
Sun Mar 20 11:26:00 CST 2005

Sorry, yes it must be between domain controllers in different domains.
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Regards
Christoffer Andersson
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services

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------------------------------------------------
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"BINZA@" <mark1.smith(remove this)@virgin.net> skrev i meddelandet
news:d1k90m$drn$1$830fa17d@news.demon.co.uk...
> You have not answered my question.
> i know that you do not use smtp in an intrasite situation ie: you have to
> define a separate site which then has to be bridged using rpc or smtp.
> My question is as statement says do you have to define a NEW DOMAIN for
> the site ??.
>
>
> "Chriss3 [MVP]" <noSpamHere@chrisse.se> wrote in message
> news:uxfz$ZWLFHA.3992@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> The statement is correct. SMTP based replication can only be used for
>> inter-site replication.
>>
>> --
>> Regards
>> Christoffer Andersson
>> Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
>>
>> No email replies please - reply in the newsgroup
>> ------------------------------------------------
>> http://www.chrisse.se - Active Directory Tips
>>
>> "BINZA@" <mark1.smith(remove this)@virgin.net> skrev i meddelandet
>> news:d1k4br$g9b$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk...
>>> Could someone clarify the below statement.
>>> Do you have to add a new domain if you need to use a site that is only
>>> able to connect using smtp??.
>>>
>>> STATEMENT:
>>> Whether link is SMTP-only. If a location is connected by SMTP-only
>>> links, it must have its own domain. Mail-based replication can occur
>>> only between domains; it cannot be used between domain controllers in
>>> the same domain.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

BINZA
Sun Mar 20 11:42:51 CST 2005

Thanks Chriss
That clears that one up, however am intrigued to know why it will not work
on the same domain but with different site.


"Chriss3 [MVP]" <noSpamHere@chrisse.se> wrote in message
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> Sorry, yes it must be between domain controllers in different domains.
> --
> Regards
> Christoffer Andersson
> Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
>
> No email replies please - reply in the newsgroup
> ------------------------------------------------
> http://www.chrisse.se - Active Directory Tips
>
> "BINZA@" <mark1.smith(remove this)@virgin.net> skrev i meddelandet
> news:d1k90m$drn$1$830fa17d@news.demon.co.uk...
>> You have not answered my question.
>> i know that you do not use smtp in an intrasite situation ie: you have to
>> define a separate site which then has to be bridged using rpc or smtp.
>> My question is as statement says do you have to define a NEW DOMAIN for
>> the site ??.
>>
>>
>> "Chriss3 [MVP]" <noSpamHere@chrisse.se> wrote in message
>> news:uxfz$ZWLFHA.3992@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>> The statement is correct. SMTP based replication can only be used for
>>> inter-site replication.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards
>>> Christoffer Andersson
>>> Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
>>>
>>> No email replies please - reply in the newsgroup
>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>> http://www.chrisse.se - Active Directory Tips
>>>
>>> "BINZA@" <mark1.smith(remove this)@virgin.net> skrev i meddelandet
>>> news:d1k4br$g9b$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk...
>>>> Could someone clarify the below statement.
>>>> Do you have to add a new domain if you need to use a site that is only
>>>> able to connect using smtp??.
>>>>
>>>> STATEMENT:
>>>> Whether link is SMTP-only. If a location is connected by SMTP-only
>>>> links, it must have its own domain. Mail-based replication can occur
>>>> only between domains; it cannot be used between domain controllers in
>>>> the same domain.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Herb
Sun Mar 20 12:05:00 CST 2005

"BINZA@" <mark1.smith(remove this)@virgin.net> wrote in message
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> Thanks Chriss
> That clears that one up, however am intrigued to know why it will not work
> on the same domain but with different site.

It's a limitation that was built into the product.

BTW, it is best not to "multi-post" that same message
in multiple newsgroups, and however preferable to
use (reasonable) CROSS-posting wherein you send
a single message to multiple newsgroups (on the To:
line.)

This way, all of the answers and discussions (from all
groups) get threaded together and shared by everyone
interested.

Below is the response I offered you elsewhere....

"BINZA@" <mark1.smith(remove this)@virgin.net> wrote in message
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> I am studying for an exam and am confused by below statement. If i had one
> domain with a separate site with a unreliable link and had to use smtp to
> replicate surely i do not have to create a child or new domain for smtp
> use?.

Yes. (you do have to have separate domains)

And therefore it only replicates objects of use to the
entire forest. Things like the GC (global catalogue),
Configuration (think Sites and Services), and the Schema.

> STATEMENT:
> Whether link is SMTP-only. If a location is connected by SMTP-only links,
it
> must have its own domain. Mail-based replication can occur only between
> domains; it cannot be used between domain controllers in the same domain.
>
> Any help on this one much appreciated.

And so it is almost never used in real life.

The normal "reasons" for being forced to use
SMTP are (absolute) firewall protocol restrictions,
or WAN lines of such poor quality or such latency
that RPC/IP is unusable.

Even slow (but reliable, low latency) lines can support
RPCs.

Also, note that certificates are required for SMTP replication
(There has to be a way to sign and secure the data) so many
people have had trouble setting this up even if they intended to
try or use it.

(The certificate trust lists have to also be on each side of the
relationship.)