Hi,

The Windows 2003 MCSE Self Paced Training Kit says in order to rename a
domain controller you have to use NETDOM.EXE (p.4-19). Is this necessary or
can I just rename the DC and reboot? When it comes back up and starts the
netlogon service won't it just re-register its SRV records in DNS/AD? Thanks.

Riley

Re: Rename DC by Jorge

Jorge
Mon Mar 24 11:21:42 PDT 2008

renaming DCs:
http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/archive/2005/11/19/109.aspx

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"rileymartin" <rileymartin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:DCE9632C-B216-41A5-B242-02A64BF2B763@microsoft.com...
> Hi,
>
> The Windows 2003 MCSE Self Paced Training Kit says in order to rename
> a
> domain controller you have to use NETDOM.EXE (p.4-19). Is this necessary
> or
> can I just rename the DC and reboot? When it comes back up and starts the
> netlogon service won't it just re-register its SRV records in DNS/AD?
> Thanks.
>
> Riley


Re: Rename DC by Jorge

Jorge
Mon Mar 24 11:31:57 PDT 2008

Hi
Using NETOM, Basically you rename, then reboot, then remove the old name.

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I hope that the information above helps you.
Have a Nice day.

Jorge Silva
MCSE, MVP Directory Services

Re: Rename DC by rileymartin

rileymartin
Mon Mar 24 19:31:02 PDT 2008

Thank you both for the info.

I read all the links and it seems that you can rename the DC both ways, by
changing the name of the server and then rebooting and also by using the
NETDOM utility however the NETDOM utility will 'somehow' synchronize the name
change in AD more quickly. I also read that with either method you still
want to use active directory users and computers to change the name of the
corresponding frsmember object to avoid any future issues if reusing the old
name for a new DC.

Do either of you know why NETDOM synchronizes the name change more quickly?
I couldn't find that information anywhere. Thanks again, this is good stuff.

"Jorge Silva" wrote:

> Hi
> Using NETOM, Basically you rename, then reboot, then remove the old name.
>
> --
> I hope that the information above helps you.
> Have a Nice day.
>
> Jorge Silva
> MCSE, MVP Directory Services

Re: Rename DC by Jorge

Jorge
Tue Mar 25 01:43:04 PDT 2008

it has nothing to do with synchronizing more quickly. The difference is that
NETDOM introduces a new name while keeping the old one. That gives time to
replicate out to other DCs so that those get to know its new name. After
that you can remove the old name

the GUI just replaces the old name with the new name

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"rileymartin" <rileymartin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B20DCC74-9909-4038-B58E-79227DCECBCB@microsoft.com...
> Thank you both for the info.
>
> I read all the links and it seems that you can rename the DC both ways, by
> changing the name of the server and then rebooting and also by using the
> NETDOM utility however the NETDOM utility will 'somehow' synchronize the
> name
> change in AD more quickly. I also read that with either method you still
> want to use active directory users and computers to change the name of the
> corresponding frsmember object to avoid any future issues if reusing the
> old
> name for a new DC.
>
> Do either of you know why NETDOM synchronizes the name change more
> quickly?
> I couldn't find that information anywhere. Thanks again, this is good
> stuff.
>
> "Jorge Silva" wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> Using NETOM, Basically you rename, then reboot, then remove the old name.
>>
>> --
>> I hope that the information above helps you.
>> Have a Nice day.
>>
>> Jorge Silva
>> MCSE, MVP Directory Services


Re: Rename DC by rileymartin

rileymartin
Tue Mar 25 06:09:01 PDT 2008

Thanks for correcting me. I need to understand how this works. Does that
mean the the NETDOM utility allows the recently renamed DC to be located by
either the new or the old name and avoiding any potential synchronization
issues from the new name not being repliated immediately?



"Jorge de Almeida Pinto [MVP - DS]" wrote:

> it has nothing to do with synchronizing more quickly. The difference is that
> NETDOM introduces a new name while keeping the old one. That gives time to
> replicate out to other DCs so that those get to know its new name. After
> that you can remove the old name
>
> the GUI just replaces the old name with the new name
>
> --
>
> Cheers,
> (HOPEFULLY THIS INFORMATION HELPS YOU!)
>
> # Jorge de Almeida Pinto # MVP Windows Server - Directory Services
>
> BLOG (WEB-BASED)--> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/default.aspx
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> "rileymartin" <rileymartin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B20DCC74-9909-4038-B58E-79227DCECBCB@microsoft.com...
> > Thank you both for the info.
> >
> > I read all the links and it seems that you can rename the DC both ways, by
> > changing the name of the server and then rebooting and also by using the
> > NETDOM utility however the NETDOM utility will 'somehow' synchronize the
> > name
> > change in AD more quickly. I also read that with either method you still
> > want to use active directory users and computers to change the name of the
> > corresponding frsmember object to avoid any future issues if reusing the
> > old
> > name for a new DC.
> >
> > Do either of you know why NETDOM synchronizes the name change more
> > quickly?
> > I couldn't find that information anywhere. Thanks again, this is good
> > stuff.
> >
> > "Jorge Silva" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi
> >> Using NETOM, Basically you rename, then reboot, then remove the old name.
> >>
> >> --
> >> I hope that the information above helps you.
> >> Have a Nice day.
> >>
> >> Jorge Silva
> >> MCSE, MVP Directory Services
>
>

Re: Rename DC by Jorge

Jorge
Tue Mar 25 06:45:31 PDT 2008

why don't you try it yourself in a test environment? do it step by step and
look at the attributes on the computer account of the DC how they change.
Use LDP to look at it

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# Jorge de Almeida Pinto # MVP Windows Server - Directory Services

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"rileymartin" <rileymartin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:207CBB73-74F8-4F65-8FB1-A936B73D039C@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for correcting me. I need to understand how this works. Does that
> mean the the NETDOM utility allows the recently renamed DC to be located
> by
> either the new or the old name and avoiding any potential synchronization
> issues from the new name not being repliated immediately?
>
>
>
> "Jorge de Almeida Pinto [MVP - DS]" wrote:
>
>> it has nothing to do with synchronizing more quickly. The difference is
>> that
>> NETDOM introduces a new name while keeping the old one. That gives time
>> to
>> replicate out to other DCs so that those get to know its new name. After
>> that you can remove the old name
>>
>> the GUI just replaces the old name with the new name
>>
>> --
>>
>> Cheers,
>> (HOPEFULLY THIS INFORMATION HELPS YOU!)
>>
>> # Jorge de Almeida Pinto # MVP Windows Server - Directory Services
>>
>> BLOG (WEB-BASED)--> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/default.aspx
>> BLOG (RSS-FEEDS)--> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/rss.aspx
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> * How to ask a question --> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=555375
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> * This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties and confers no
>> rights!
>> * Always test before implementing!
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> #################################################
>> #################################################
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> "rileymartin" <rileymartin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:B20DCC74-9909-4038-B58E-79227DCECBCB@microsoft.com...
>> > Thank you both for the info.
>> >
>> > I read all the links and it seems that you can rename the DC both ways,
>> > by
>> > changing the name of the server and then rebooting and also by using
>> > the
>> > NETDOM utility however the NETDOM utility will 'somehow' synchronize
>> > the
>> > name
>> > change in AD more quickly. I also read that with either method you
>> > still
>> > want to use active directory users and computers to change the name of
>> > the
>> > corresponding frsmember object to avoid any future issues if reusing
>> > the
>> > old
>> > name for a new DC.
>> >
>> > Do either of you know why NETDOM synchronizes the name change more
>> > quickly?
>> > I couldn't find that information anywhere. Thanks again, this is good
>> > stuff.
>> >
>> > "Jorge Silva" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi
>> >> Using NETOM, Basically you rename, then reboot, then remove the old
>> >> name.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> I hope that the information above helps you.
>> >> Have a Nice day.
>> >>
>> >> Jorge Silva
>> >> MCSE, MVP Directory Services
>>
>>


Re: Rename DC by Jorge

Jorge
Tue Mar 25 08:07:40 PDT 2008

Exactly, using netdom you can still use the old name before the final
decision. and that is the real advantage over the GUI process.

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I hope that the information above helps you.
Have a Nice day.

Jorge Silva
MCSE, MVP Directory Services