Hi
We want to setup a policy in our domain where screensavers will come on and
lockout after a certain amount of time. The problem is we don't want all
workstations/servers to have the screensaver policy. We would like to have
two different groups. One with the policy of screen savers and one without. I
thought creating another GPO would be key but I'm not sure how to proceed. I
am kinda new but I do have GPMC installed and I can edit my default domain
policy and it works fine. Thanks for anyone who can help me out.

Re: Group Policy by Florian

Florian
Thu Jul 10 11:17:00 PDT 2008

Jim,

Jim Mutdosch schrieb:
> Hi
> We want to setup a policy in our domain where screensavers will come on and
> lockout after a certain amount of time. The problem is we don't want all
> workstations/servers to have the screensaver policy. We would like to have
> two different groups. One with the policy of screen savers and one without. I
> thought creating another GPO would be key but I'm not sure how to proceed. I
> am kinda new but I do have GPMC installed and I can edit my default domain
> policy and it works fine. Thanks for anyone who can help me out.

Can you seperate the screensaver machines from the non-screensaver
machines? If so, that would simplify things. That's actually the best
practice approach - seperating on OU level. Maybe you can put the server
and laptops and stuff that don't need those screensavers in one OU,
machines that need it into another. If so, create a policy with the
screensaver configuration and link it to the OU with the screensaver
macines (or just right-click the right OU in GPMC and select "Create and
link GPO here".

If you cannot seperate the machines, things get tricky and you'd have to
use a sort of filtering with "Security Filtering":
http://www.frickelsoft.net/blog/?p=28 or WMI filters...

cheers,

Florian
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Re: Group Policy by JimMutdosch

JimMutdosch
Thu Jul 10 11:36:00 PDT 2008

Florian,
Ok this is about how far I got before then I'm lost. I create and link a gpo
here and named it screensavers. I have that GPO and default domain policy
GPO. The screen saver is listed below the default if that even matters. Ok
what I want is basically everything to stay the same in the domain but to add
say 80 workstations with the password/lockout policy. So it the screensaver
GPO I gpedit and setup the screensaver settings and such and leave the
default the way it is. I basically want some worksations to have default
settings with password/lockout policy and some somestations to just have
default. Sorry if this is stupid questions but I'm not sure how one overides
the other or how to link them or what I ened to do next. Thanks for the help
and patience.

Jim


"Florian Frommherz [MVP]" wrote:

> Jim,
>
> Jim Mutdosch schrieb:
> > Hi
> > We want to setup a policy in our domain where screensavers will come on and
> > lockout after a certain amount of time. The problem is we don't want all
> > workstations/servers to have the screensaver policy. We would like to have
> > two different groups. One with the policy of screen savers and one without. I
> > thought creating another GPO would be key but I'm not sure how to proceed. I
> > am kinda new but I do have GPMC installed and I can edit my default domain
> > policy and it works fine. Thanks for anyone who can help me out.
>
> Can you seperate the screensaver machines from the non-screensaver
> machines? If so, that would simplify things. That's actually the best
> practice approach - seperating on OU level. Maybe you can put the server
> and laptops and stuff that don't need those screensavers in one OU,
> machines that need it into another. If so, create a policy with the
> screensaver configuration and link it to the OU with the screensaver
> macines (or just right-click the right OU in GPMC and select "Create and
> link GPO here".
>
> If you cannot seperate the machines, things get tricky and you'd have to
> use a sort of filtering with "Security Filtering":
> http://www.frickelsoft.net/blog/?p=28 or WMI filters...
>
> cheers,
>
> Florian
> --
> Microsoft MVP - Group Policy
> eMail: prename [at] frickelsoft [dot] net.
> blog: http://www.frickelsoft.net/blog.
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>

RE: Group Policy by RajeshJS

RajeshJS
Thu Jul 10 23:35:00 PDT 2008

Create two new OUs and move the computers to OUs and apply the policy in OUs
here you can do it very easily.

"Jim Mutdosch" wrote:

> Hi
> We want to setup a policy in our domain where screensavers will come on and
> lockout after a certain amount of time. The problem is we don't want all
> workstations/servers to have the screensaver policy. We would like to have
> two different groups. One with the policy of screen savers and one without. I
> thought creating another GPO would be key but I'm not sure how to proceed. I
> am kinda new but I do have GPMC installed and I can edit my default domain
> policy and it works fine. Thanks for anyone who can help me out.

Re: Group Policy by Florian

Florian
Thu Jul 10 23:45:48 PDT 2008

Jim,

Jim Mutdosch schrieb:
> Ok this is about how far I got before then I'm lost. I create and link a gpo
> here and named it screensavers. I have that GPO and default domain policy
> GPO. The screen saver is listed below the default if that even matters. Ok
> what I want is basically everything to stay the same in the domain but to add
> say 80 workstations with the password/lockout policy. So it the screensaver
> GPO I gpedit and setup the screensaver settings and such and leave the
> default the way it is. I basically want some worksations to have default
> settings with password/lockout policy and some somestations to just have
> default. Sorry if this is stupid questions but I'm not sure how one overides
> the other or how to link them or what I ened to do next. Thanks for the help
> and patience.

You seem to confuse a few things. So basically we're talking about
domain policies. I referenced gpedit there which is only used on
stand-alone machines for local Group Policy creation.

Let's step back for a moment: you basically have two groups of users.
Where are those users and how are they organized? Are they in the
default "Users" container? You know, you can create Organizational Unit
(OUs) in the domain to group users and computers. To those OUs, you can
link GPOs which in this case would be your best approach. Linking the
screensaver policy to the domain next to the Default Domain Policy is
something I wouldn't do as it's more work.

So, assuming you can create a new OU, move all users that need a special
screensaver setting into that OU. Once they're in, create your
screensaver policy to that OU and define the settings. You're done then.
Only users in that OU will get the settings. Others won't.

If you're not able to create a new OU or seperate the two groups of
users, things get a little more complicated. You then have to apply the
policy to the common parent object (which is an OU if the users are all
in one OU - or the "domain" if they're in the "Users" container). I
still suggest you put the users into a new OU (even if you can't
seperate them). Once done that, you create a security group called
"screensaver users" and put the appropriate usres in there. You then go
create the Group Policy at the OU all user accounts are in. After making
the settings, you need to tweak permissions on the GPO around: users
need "Read" and "Apply Group Policy" permission on the GPO to apply it.
You basically kick "Authenticated Users" out (which is default) and add
the "screensaver users" in there with "Read" and "Apply" permissions.
Like that, only those users in the security group will apply the policy.
More on that procedure which is called "security filtering" here:
http://www.frickelsoft.net/blog/?p=28

Anyway, I recommend you try to seperate the users. If there are
questions left, feel free to ask.

cheers,

Florian
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Re: Group Policy by Florian

Florian
Thu Jul 10 23:56:39 PDT 2008

Once more...

Florian Frommherz [MVP] schrieb:
> You seem to confuse a few things. So basically we're talking about
> domain policies. I referenced gpedit there which is only used on
> stand-alone machines for local Group Policy creation.

That should read "*YOU* referenced gpedit there which is only used..."
on local machines. For Group Policy in domains, you need to use
gpmc.msc. But I guess you already figured that - it's just been a mistake.

cheers,

Florian
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Re: Group Policy by JimMutdosch

JimMutdosch
Fri Jul 11 05:54:00 PDT 2008

Hi Florian,
Thanks for your detail response unfortunatly I guess I need some training as
I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm sure its easy if I could see it done once
and wish I had some schooling on it but I don't and my boss wants this to
happen. My only other solution is to have Microsoft do it for $249 which I
feel is very expensive when I know I am so close. I wish I could send you a
picture of our "Forest" I guess you call it as it is very basic. I will
describe what I am seeing and maybe that will help or maybe I am beyond
help..LOL
I see:
Forest: www.dc_nt.com
Domains
www.dc_nt.com
Default Domain Policy (GPO)
Scr