Hello All,

We have 2 forests A and B; both have a child domain under it.
We now have a two-way trust from child.A to child.B.

I have created a Local Domain Group in child.A that contains a global
security group from child.B.
We have a website that requires integrated windows authentication.
With just the group the users get access denied, but if I do add single
users child.B to the local domain group in child.A then the users in child.B
are able to access the website with no prompt for password [ie. windows
authentication works properly].

Any ideas?

Re: Forest Trust by Remco

Remco
Wed Mar 26 13:43:52 PDT 2008

As far as I know a GC server in Forest A does not store the information of
Local Domain groups of a domain outside its own forest. It does not get
replicated.
that why you should have Universal groups. I am not 100% sure of this,
anyone can acknowledge this?? Am I correct?


"domain_trust_confused" <domain_trust_confused@discussions.microsoft.com>
schreef in bericht
news:DBDEF0F6-4702-40E4-A841-BDC161910C43@microsoft.com...
> Hello All,
>
> We have 2 forests A and B; both have a child domain under it.
> We now have a two-way trust from child.A to child.B.
>
> I have created a Local Domain Group in child.A that contains a global
> security group from child.B.
> We have a website that requires integrated windows authentication.
> With just the group the users get access denied, but if I do add single
> users child.B to the local domain group in child.A then the users in
> child.B
> are able to access the website with no prompt for password [ie. windows
> authentication works properly].
>
> Any ideas?



Re: Forest Trust by Don

Don
Wed Mar 26 13:50:45 PDT 2008

global or universal groups will work.



http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/79d93e46-ecab-4165-8001-7adc3c9f804e1033.mspx?mfr=true

--
Hope it helps!

dw

----------------------------------------------
Don Wilwol
www.atthedatacenter.com



"Remco" <veralloinjamaica@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2fe6b$47eab58d$541f1cbd$12689@cache5.tilbu1.nb.home.nl...
> As far as I know a GC server in Forest A does not store the information of
> Local Domain groups of a domain outside its own forest. It does not get
> replicated.
> that why you should have Universal groups. I am not 100% sure of this,
> anyone can acknowledge this?? Am I correct?
>
>
> "domain_trust_confused" <domain_trust_confused@discussions.microsoft.com>
> schreef in bericht
> news:DBDEF0F6-4702-40E4-A841-BDC161910C43@microsoft.com...
>> Hello All,
>>
>> We have 2 forests A and B; both have a child domain under it.
>> We now have a two-way trust from child.A to child.B.
>>
>> I have created a Local Domain Group in child.A that contains a global
>> security group from child.B.
>> We have a website that requires integrated windows authentication.
>> With just the group the users get access denied, but if I do add single
>> users child.B to the local domain group in child.A then the users in
>> child.B
>> are able to access the website with no prompt for password [ie. windows
>> authentication works properly].
>>
>> Any ideas?
>
>



Re: Forest Trust by domain_trust_confused

domain_trust_confused
Wed Mar 26 14:01:00 PDT 2008

Hi Don,
Unfortunately when I try to create in domain child.A an universal group and
I go to search I do not see the domain child.B.
That's what I cannot figure out.

"Don Wilwol" wrote:

> global or universal groups will work.
>
>
>
> http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/79d93e46-ecab-4165-8001-7adc3c9f804e1033.mspx?mfr=true
>
> --
> Hope it helps!
>
> dw
>
> ----------------------------------------------
> Don Wilwol
> www.atthedatacenter.com
>
>
>
> "Remco" <veralloinjamaica@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2fe6b$47eab58d$541f1cbd$12689@cache5.tilbu1.nb.home.nl...
> > As far as I know a GC server in Forest A does not store the information of
> > Local Domain groups of a domain outside its own forest. It does not get
> > replicated.
> > that why you should have Universal groups. I am not 100% sure of this,
> > anyone can acknowledge this?? Am I correct?
> >
> >
> > "domain_trust_confused" <domain_trust_confused@discussions.microsoft.com>
> > schreef in bericht
> > news:DBDEF0F6-4702-40E4-A841-BDC161910C43@microsoft.com...
> >> Hello All,
> >>
> >> We have 2 forests A and B; both have a child domain under it.
> >> We now have a two-way trust from child.A to child.B.
> >>
> >> I have created a Local Domain Group in child.A that contains a global
> >> security group from child.B.
> >> We have a website that requires integrated windows authentication.
> >> With just the group the users get access denied, but if I do add single
> >> users child.B to the local domain group in child.A then the users in
> >> child.B
> >> are able to access the website with no prompt for password [ie. windows
> >> authentication works properly].
> >>
> >> Any ideas?
> >
> >
>
>
>

Re: Forest Trust by Remco

Remco
Wed Mar 26 14:03:20 PDT 2008


it says "...Because groups with global scope are not replicated outside
their own domain...." which means that he has to use universal groups?
anyway, give it a try, and let us know :-)


"Don Wilwol" <donWilwol@(EMAIL)yahoo.com> schreef in bericht
news:OA7sUM4jIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> global or universal groups will work.
>
>
>
> http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/79d93e46-ecab-4165-8001-7adc3c9f804e1033.mspx?mfr=true
>
> --
> Hope it helps!
>
> dw
>
> ----------------------------------------------
> Don Wilwol
> www.atthedatacenter.com
>
>
>
> "Remco" <veralloinjamaica@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2fe6b$47eab58d$541f1cbd$12689@cache5.tilbu1.nb.home.nl...
>> As far as I know a GC server in Forest A does not store the information
>> of Local Domain groups of a domain outside its own forest. It does not
>> get replicated.
>> that why you should have Universal groups. I am not 100% sure of this,
>> anyone can acknowledge this?? Am I correct?
>>
>>
>> "domain_trust_confused" <domain_trust_confused@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> schreef in bericht
>> news:DBDEF0F6-4702-40E4-A841-BDC161910C43@microsoft.com...
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> We have 2 forests A and B; both have a child domain under it.
>>> We now have a two-way trust from child.A to child.B.
>>>
>>> I have created a Local Domain Group in child.A that contains a global
>>> security group from child.B.
>>> We have a website that requires integrated windows authentication.
>>> With just the group the users get access denied, but if I do add single
>>> users child.B to the local domain group in child.A then the users in
>>> child.B
>>> are able to access the website with no prompt for password [ie. windows
>>> authentication works properly].
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>
>>
>
>



Re: Forest Trust by domaintrustconfused

domaintrustconfused
Wed Mar 26 14:28:06 PDT 2008

We changed it to universal and it still does not work.

Not the situation is:

child.A <---two way trust with [not forest trust just children are
trusting] --> child.B

Universal Security Group in child.B is added to a Domain Local group in
child.A.

Users in child.B cannot access a website in child.A that uses integrated
windows authentication [IIS error 401 3 5].

Getting more confused. The problem is that if I add just the users to the
domain local it works.


"Remco" wrote:

>
> it says "...Because groups with global scope are not replicated outside
> their own domain...." which means that he has to use universal groups?
> anyway, give it a try, and let us know :-)
>
>
> "Don Wilwol" <donWilwol@(EMAIL)yahoo.com> schreef in bericht
> news:OA7sUM4jIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > global or universal groups will work.
> >
> >
> >
> > http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/79d93e46-ecab-4165-8001-7adc3c9f804e1033.mspx?mfr=true
> >
> > --
> > Hope it helps!
> >
> > dw
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------
> > Don Wilwol
> > www.atthedatacenter.com
> >
> >
> >
> > "Remco" <veralloinjamaica@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:2fe6b$47eab58d$541f1cbd$12689@cache5.tilbu1.nb.home.nl...
> >> As far as I know a GC server in Forest A does not store the information
> >> of Local Domain groups of a domain outside its own forest. It does not
> >> get replicated.
> >> that why you should have Universal groups. I am not 100% sure of this,
> >> anyone can acknowledge this?? Am I correct?
> >>
> >>
> >> "domain_trust_confused" <domain_trust_confused@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> schreef in bericht
> >> news:DBDEF0F6-4702-40E4-A841-BDC161910C43@microsoft.com...
> >>> Hello All,
> >>>
> >>> We have 2 forests A and B; both have a child domain under it.
> >>> We now have a two-way trust from child.A to child.B.
> >>>
> >>> I have created a Local Domain Group in child.A that contains a global
> >>> security group from child.B.
> >>> We have a website that requires integrated windows authentication.
> >>> With just the group the users get access denied, but if I do add single
> >>> users child.B to the local domain group in child.A then the users in
> >>> child.B
> >>> are able to access the website with no prompt for password [ie. windows
> >>> authentication works properly].
> >>>
> >>> Any ideas?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>

Re: Forest Trust by Remco

Remco
Wed Mar 26 14:41:11 PDT 2008

well, there is another question posted here today by net_admin, same topic,
same situation it seems.
if that is not you who posted that , take a look at it! somebody responded
saying:

"Some things to check:

Make sure Selective Authentication is not enabled
Make sure the changes have been replicated forest wide.
Make sure the correct DNS infrastructure is in place
Make sure the -forest- functional level is Windows Server 2003"


"domain_trust_confused" <domaintrustconfused@discussions.microsoft.com>
schreef in bericht
news:1D19BF2E-C4A8-4C25-8408-413D99188A8F@microsoft.com...
> We changed it to universal and it still does not work.
>
> Not the situation is:
>
> child.A <---two way trust with [not forest trust just children are
> trusting] --> child.B
>
> Universal Security Group in child.B is added to a Domain Local group in
> child.A.
>
> Users in child.B cannot access a website in child.A that uses integrated
> windows authentication [IIS error 401 3 5].
>
> Getting more confused. The problem is that if I add just the users to the
> domain local it works.
>
>
> "Remco" wrote:
>
>>
>> it says "...Because groups with global scope are not replicated outside
>> their own domain...." which means that he has to use universal groups?
>> anyway, give it a try, and let us know :-)
>>
>>
>> "Don Wilwol" <donWilwol@(EMAIL)yahoo.com> schreef in bericht
>> news:OA7sUM4jIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> > global or universal groups will work.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/79d93e46-ecab-4165-8001-7adc3c9f804e1033.mspx?mfr=true
>> >
>> > --
>> > Hope it helps!
>> >
>> > dw
>> >
>> > ----------------------------------------------
>> > Don Wilwol
>> > www.atthedatacenter.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Remco" <veralloinjamaica@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:2fe6b$47eab58d$541f1cbd$12689@cache5.tilbu1.nb.home.nl...
>> >> As far as I know a GC server in Forest A does not store the
>> >> information
>> >> of Local Domain groups of a domain outside its own forest. It does not
>> >> get replicated.
>> >> that why you should have Universal groups. I am not 100% sure of this,
>> >> anyone can acknowledge this?? Am I correct?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "domain_trust_confused"
>> >> <domain_trust_confused@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> schreef in bericht
>> >> news:DBDEF0F6-4702-40E4-A841-BDC161910C43@microsoft.com...
>> >>> Hello All,
>> >>>
>> >>> We have 2 forests A and B; both have a child domain under it.
>> >>> We now have a two-way trust from child.A to child.B.
>> >>>
>> >>> I have created a Local Domain Group in child.A that contains a global
>> >>> security group from child.B.
>> >>> We have a website that requires integrated windows authentication.
>> >>> With just the group the users get access denied, but if I do add
>> >>> single
>> >>> users child.B to the local domain group in child.A then the users in
>> >>> child.B
>> >>> are able to access the website with no prompt for password [ie.
>> >>> windows
>> >>> authentication works properly].
>> >>>
>> >>> Any ideas?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>



Re: Forest Trust by domaintrustconfused

domaintrustconfused
Wed Mar 26 14:50:01 PDT 2008

Hi Remco,
no it is not me.

Unfortunately I checked already all of that and it is fine :(



"Remco" wrote:

> well, there is another question posted here today by net_admin, same topic,
> same situation it seems.
> if that is not you who posted that , take a look at it! somebody responded
> saying:
>
> "Some things to check:
>
> Make sure Selective Authentication is not enabled
> Make sure the changes have been replicated forest wide.
> Make sure the correct DNS infrastructure is in place
> Make sure the -forest- functional level is Windows Server 2003"
>
>
> "domain_trust_confused" <domaintrustconfused@discussions.microsoft.com>
> schreef in bericht
> news:1D19BF2E-C4A8-4C25-8408-413D99188A8F@microsoft.com...
> > We changed it to universal and it still does not work.
> >
> > Not the situation is:
> >
> > child.A <---two way trust with [not forest trust just children are
> > trusting] --> child.B
> >
> > Universal Security Group in child.B is added to a Domain Local group in
> > child.A.
> >
> > Users in child.B cannot access a website in child.A that uses integrated
> > windows authentication [IIS error 401 3 5].
> >
> > Getting more confused. The problem is that if I add just the users to the
> > domain local it works.
> >
> >
> > "Remco" wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> it says "...Because groups with global scope are not replicated outside
> >> their own domain...." which means that he has to use universal groups?
> >> anyway, give it a try, and let us know :-)
> >>
> >>
> >> "Don Wilwol" <donWilwol@(EMAIL)yahoo.com> schreef in bericht
> >> news:OA7sUM4jIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> > global or universal groups will work.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/79d93e46-ecab-4165-8001-7adc3c9f804e1033.mspx?mfr=true
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Hope it helps!
> >> >
> >> > dw
> >> >
> >> > ----------------------------------------------
> >> > Don Wilwol
> >> > www.atthedatacenter.com
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Remco" <veralloinjamaica@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:2fe6b$47eab58d$541f1cbd$12689@cache5.tilbu1.nb.home.nl...
> >> >> As far as I know a GC server in Forest A does not store the
> >> >> information
> >> >> of Local Domain groups of a domain outside its own forest. It does not
> >> >> get replicated.
> >> >> that why you should have Universal groups. I am not 100% sure of this,
> >> >> anyone can acknowledge this?? Am I correct?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "domain_trust_confused"
> >> >> <domain_trust_confused@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> >> schreef in bericht
> >> >> news:DBDEF0F6-4702-40E4-A841-BDC161910C43@microsoft.com...
> >> >>> Hello All,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> We have 2 forests A and B; both have a child domain under it.
> >> >>> We now have a two-way trust from child.A to child.B.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I have created a Local Domain Group in child.A that contains a global
> >> >>> security group from child.B.
> >> >>> We have a website that requires integrated windows authentication.
> >> >>> With just the group the users get access denied, but if I do add
> >> >>> single
> >> >>> users child.B to the local domain group in child.A then the users in
> >> >>> child.B
> >> >>> are able to access the website with no prompt for password [ie.
> >> >>> windows
> >> >>> authentication works properly].
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Any ideas?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

Re: Forest Trust by Remco

Remco
Wed Mar 26 14:53:30 PDT 2008

ok
well, then I am running out of ideas also :(


"domain_trust_confused" <domaintrustconfused@discussions.microsoft.com>
schreef in bericht
news:63DD1209-F26E-4310-B850-2BE7079D258D@microsoft.com...
> Hi Remco,
> no it is not me.
>
> Unfortunately I checked already all of that and it is fine :(
>
>
>
> "Remco" wrote:
>
>> well, there is another question posted here today by net_admin, same
>> topic,
>> same situation it seems.
>> if that is not you who posted that , take a look at it! somebody
>> responded
>> saying:
>>
>> "Some things to check:
>>
>> Make sure Selective Authentication is not enabled
>> Make sure the changes have been replicated forest wide.
>> Make sure the correct DNS infrastructure is in place
>> Make sure the -forest- functional level is Windows Server 2003"
>>
>>
>> "domain_trust_confused" <domaintrustconfused@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> schreef in bericht
>> news:1D19BF2E-C4A8-4C25-8408-413D99188A8F@microsoft.com...
>> > We changed it to universal and it still does not work.
>> >
>> > Not the situation is:
>> >
>> > child.A <---two way trust with [not forest trust just children are
>> > trusting] --> child.B
>> >
>> > Universal Security Group in child.B is added to a Domain Local group in
>> > child.A.
>> >
>> > Users in child.B cannot access a website in child.A that uses
>> > integrated
>> > windows authentication [IIS error 401 3 5].
>> >
>> > Getting more confused. The problem is that if I add just the users to
>> > the
>> > domain local it works.
>> >
>> >
>> > "Remco" wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> it says "...Because groups with global scope are not replicated
>> >> outside
>> >> their own domain...." which means that he has to use universal
>> >> groups?
>> >> anyway, give it a try, and let us know :-)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Don Wilwol" <donWilwol@(EMAIL)yahoo.com> schreef in bericht
>> >> news:OA7sUM4jIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> >> > global or universal groups will work.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/79d93e46-ecab-4165-8001-7adc3c9f804e1033.mspx?mfr=true
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Hope it helps!
>> >> >
>> >> > dw
>> >> >
>> >> > ----------------------------------------------
>> >> > Don Wilwol
>> >> > www.atthedatacenter.com
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Remco" <veralloinjamaica@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:2fe6b$47eab58d$541f1cbd$12689@cache5.tilbu1.nb.home.nl...
>> >> >> As far as I know a GC server in Forest A does not store the
>> >> >> information
>> >> >> of Local Domain groups of a domain outside its own forest. It does
>> >> >> not
>> >> >> get replicated.
>> >> >> that why you should have Universal groups. I am not 100% sure of
>> >> >> this,
>> >> >> anyone can acknowledge this?? Am I correct?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "domain_trust_confused"
>> >> >> <domain_trust_confused@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> >> schreef in bericht
>> >> >> news:DBDEF0F6-4702-40E4-A841-BDC161910C43@microsoft.com...
>> >> >>> Hello All,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> We have 2 forests A and B; both have a child domain under it.
>> >> >>> We now have a two-way trust from child.A to child.B.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I have created a Local Domain Group in child.A that contains a
>> >> >>> global
>> >> >>> security group from child.B.
>> >> >>> We have a website that requires integrated windows authentication.
>> >> >>> With just the group the users get access denied, but if I do add
>> >> >>> single
>> >> >>> users child.B to the local domain group in child.A then the users
>> >> >>> in
>> >> >>> child.B
>> >> >>> are able to access the website with no prompt for password [ie.
>> >> >>> windows
>> >> >>> authentication works properly].
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Any ideas?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>



Re: Forest Trust by Don

Don
Wed Mar 26 16:22:25 PDT 2008

Check the way the site authenticates. It may be looking at the group as an
object, instead of the group members.

--
Hope it helps!

dw

----------------------------------------------
Don Wilwol
www.atthedatacenter.com



"Remco" <-> wrote in message
news:8733d$47eac5df$541f1cbd$27041@cache6.tilbu1.nb.home.nl...
> ok
> well, then I am running out of ideas also :(
>
>
> "domain_trust_confused" <domaintrustconfused@discussions.microsoft.com>
> schreef in bericht
> news:63DD1209-F26E-4310-B850-2BE7079D258D@microsoft.com...
>> Hi Remco,
>> no it is not me.
>>
>> Unfortunately I checked already all of that and it is fine :(
>>
>>
>>
>> "Remco" wrote:
>>
>>> well, there is another question posted here today by net_admin, same
>>> topic,
>>> same situation it seems.
>>> if that is not you who posted that , take a look at it! somebody
>>> responded
>>> saying:
>>>
>>> "Some things to check:
>>>
>>> Make sure Selective Authentication is not enabled
>>> Make sure the changes have been replicated forest wide.
>>> Make sure the correct DNS infrastructure is in place
>>> Make sure the -forest- functional level is Windows Server 2003"
>>>
>>>
>>> "domain_trust_confused" <domaintrustconfused@discussions.microsoft.com>
>>> schreef in bericht
>>> news:1D19BF2E-C4A8-4C25-8408-413D99188A8F@microsoft.com...
>>> > We changed it to universal and it still does not work.
>>> >
>>> > Not the situation is:
>>> >
>>> > child.A <---two way trust with [not forest trust just children are
>>> > trusting] --> child.B
>>> >
>>> > Universal Security Group in child.B is added to a Domain Local group
>>> > in
>>> > child.A.
>>> >
>>> > Users in child.B cannot access a website in child.A that uses
>>> > integrated
>>> > windows authentication [IIS error 401 3 5].
>>> >
>>> > Getting more confused. The problem is that if I add just the users to
>>> > the
>>> > domain local it works.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "Remco" wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> it says "...Because groups with global scope are not replicated
>>> >> outside
>>> >> their own domain...." which means that he has to use universal
>>> >> groups?
>>> >> anyway, give it a try, and let us know :-)
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> "Don Wilwol" <donWilwol@(EMAIL)yahoo.com> schreef in bericht
>>> >> news:OA7sUM4jIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> >> > global or universal groups will work.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/79d93e46-ecab-4165-8001-7adc3c9f804e1033.mspx?mfr=true
>>> >> >
>>> >> > --
>>> >> > Hope it helps!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > dw
>>> >> >
>>> >> > ----------------------------------------------
>>> >> > Don Wilwol
>>> >> > www.atthedatacenter.com
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "Remco" <veralloinjamaica@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> >> > news:2fe6b$47eab58d$541f1cbd$12689@cache5.tilbu1.nb.home.nl...
>>> >> >> As far as I know a GC server in Forest A does not store the
>>> >> >> information
>>> >> >> of Local Domain groups of a domain outside its own forest. It does
>>> >> >> not
>>> >> >> get replicated.
>>> >> >> that why you should have Universal groups. I am not 100% sure of
>>> >> >> this,
>>> >> >> anyone can acknowledge this?? Am I correct?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> "domain_trust_confused"
>>> >> >> <domain_trust_confused@discussions.microsoft.com>
>>> >> >> schreef in bericht
>>> >> >> news:DBDEF0F6-4702-40E4-A841-BDC161910C43@microsoft.com...
>>> >> >>> Hello All,
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> We have 2 forests A and B; both have a child domain under it.
>>> >> >>> We now have a two-way trust from child.A to child.B.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> I have created a Local Domain Group in child.A that contains a
>>> >> >>> global
>>> >> >>> security group from child.B.
>>> >> >>> We have a website that requires integrated windows
>>> >> >>> authentication.
>>> >> >>> With just the group the users get access denied, but if I do add
>>> >> >>> single
>>> >> >>> users child.B to the local domain group in child.A then the users
>>> >> >>> in
>>> >> >>> child.B
>>> >> >>> are able to access the website with no prompt for password [ie.
>>> >> >>> windows
>>> >> >>> authentication works properly].
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Any ideas?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>



Re: Forest Trust by domaintrustconfused

domaintrustconfused
Thu Mar 27 06:47:04 PDT 2008

Hi Don,
How could I check that?



"Don Wilwol" wrote:

> Check the way the site authenticates. It may be looking at the group as an
> object, instead of the group members.
>
> --
> Hope it helps!
>
> dw
>
> ----------------------------------------------
> Don Wilwol
> www.atthedatacenter.com
>
>
>
> "Remco" <-> wrote in message
> news:8733d$47eac5df$541f1cbd$27041@cache6.tilbu1.nb.home.nl...
> > ok
> > well, then I am running out of ideas also :(
> >
> >
> > "domain_trust_confused" <domaintrustconfused@discussions.microsoft.com>
> > schreef in bericht
> > news:63DD1209-F26E-4310-B850-2BE7079D258D@microsoft.com...
> >> Hi Remco,
> >> no it is not me.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately I checked already all of that and it is fine :(
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Remco" wrote:
> >>
> >>> well, there is another question posted here today by net_admin, same
> >>> topic,
> >>> same situation it seems.
> >>> if that is not you who posted that , take a look at it! somebody
> >>> responded
> >>> saying:
> >>>
> >>> "Some things to check:
> >>>
> >>> Make sure Selective Authentication is not enabled
> >>> Make sure the changes have been replicated forest wide.
> >>> Make sure the correct DNS infrastructure is in place
> >>> Make sure the -forest- functional level is Windows Server 2003"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "domain_trust_confused" <domaintrustconfused@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >>> schreef in bericht
> >>> news:1D19BF2E-C4A8-4C25-8408-413D99188A8F@microsoft.com...
> >>> > We changed it to universal and it still does not work.
> >>> >
> >>> > Not the situation is:
> >>> >
> >>> > child.A <---two way trust with [not forest trust just children are
> >>> > trusting] --> child.B
> >>> >
> >>> > Universal Security Group in child.B is added to a Domain Local group
> >>> > in
> >>> > child.A.
> >>> >
> >>> > Users in child.B cannot access a website in child.A that uses
> >>> > integrated
> >>> > windows authentication [IIS error 401 3 5].
> >>> >
> >>> > Getting more confused. The problem is that if I add just the users to
> >>> > the
> >>> > domain local it works.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > "Remco" wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >> it says "...Because groups with global scope are not replicated
> >>> >> outside
> >>> >> their own domain...." which means that he has to use universal
> >>> >> groups?
> >>> >> anyway, give it a try, and let us know :-)
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> "Don Wilwol" <donWilwol@(EMAIL)yahoo.com> schreef in bericht
> >>> >> news:OA7sUM4jIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >>> >> > global or universal groups will work.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/79d93e46-ecab-4165-8001-7adc3c9f804e1033.mspx?mfr=true
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > --
> >>> >> > Hope it helps!
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > dw
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > ----------------------------------------------
> >>> >> > Don Wilwol
> >>> >> > www.atthedatacenter.com
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > "Remco" <veralloinjamaica@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>> >> > news:2fe6b$47eab58d$541f1cbd$12689@cache5.tilbu1.nb.home.nl...
> >>> >> >> As far as I know a GC server in Forest A does not store the
> >>> >> >> information
> >>> >> >> of Local Domain groups of a domain outside its own forest. It does
> >>> >> >> not
> >>> >> >> get replicated.
> >>> >> >> that why you should have Universal groups. I am not 100% sure of
> >>> >> >> this,
> >>> >> >> anyone can acknowledge this?? Am I correct?
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> "domain_trust_confused"
> >>> >> >> <domain_trust_confused@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >>> >> >> schreef in bericht
> >>> >> >> news:DBDEF0F6-4702-40E4-A841-BDC161910C43@microsoft.com...
> >>> >> >>> Hello All,
> >>> >> >>>
> >>> >> >>> We have 2 forests A and B; both have a child domain under it.
> >>> >> >>> We now have a two-way trust from child.A to child.B.
> >>> >> >>>
> >>> >> >>> I have created a Local Domain Group in child.A that contains a
> >>> >> >>> global
> >>> >> >>> security group from child.B.
> >>> >> >>> We have a website that requires integrated windows
> >>> >> >>> authentication.
> >>> >> >>> With just the group the users get access denied, but if I do add
> >>> >> >>> single
> >>> >> >>> users child.B to the local domain group in child.A then the users
> >>> >> >>> in
> >>> >> >>> child.B
> >>> >> >>> are able to access the website with no prompt for password [ie.
> >>> >> >>> windows
> >>> >> >>> authentication works properly].
> >>> >> >>>
> >>> >> >>> Any ideas?
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
>
>
>

Re: Forest Trust by Don

Don
Thu Mar 27 12:42:54 PDT 2008

That's a bit out of my league. Its more of a programming question. How does
the site authenticate, is it using IIS, forms based, .NET etc......

--
Hope it helps!

dw

----------------------------------------------
Don Wilwol
www.atthedatacenter.com



"domain_trust_confused" <domaintrustconfused@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote in message news:FC10F2DE-238C-46F7-8CB0-6C5F662A8511@microsoft.com...
> Hi Don,
> How could I check that?
>
>
>
> "Don Wilwol" wrote:
>
>> Check the way the site authenticates. It may be looking at the group as
>> an
>> object, instead of the group members.
>>
>> --
>> Hope it helps!
>>
>> dw
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------
>> Don Wilwol
>> www.atthedatacenter.com
>>
>>
>>
>> "Remco" <-> wrote in message
>> news:8733d$47eac5df$541f1cbd$27041@cache6.tilbu1.nb.home.nl...
>> > ok
>> > well, then I am running out of ideas also :(
>> >
>> >
>> > "domain_trust_confused" <domaintrustconfused@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> > schreef in bericht
>> > news:63DD1209-F26E-4310-B850-2BE7079D258D@microsoft.com...
>> >> Hi Remco,
>> >> no it is not me.
>> >>
>> >> Unfortunately I checked already all of that and it is fine :(
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Remco" wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> well, there is another question posted here today by net_admin, same
>> >>> topic,
>> >>> same situation it seems.
>> >>> if that is not you who posted that , take a look at it! somebody
>> >>> responded
>> >>> saying:
>> >>>
>> >>> "Some things to check:
>> >>>
>> >>> Make sure Selective Authentication is not enabled
>> >>> Make sure the changes have been replicated forest wide.
>> >>> Make sure the correct DNS infrastructure is in place
>> >>> Make sure the -forest- functional level is Windows Server 2003"
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> "domain_trust_confused"
>> >>> <domaintrustconfused@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >>> schreef in bericht
>> >>> news:1D19BF2E-C4A8-4C25-8408-413D99188A8F@microsoft.com...
>> >>> > We changed it to universal and it still does not work.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Not the situation is:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > child.A <---two way trust with [not forest trust just children are
>> >>> > trusting] --> child.B
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Universal Security Group in child.B is added to a Domain Local
>> >>> > group
>> >>> > in
>> >>> > child.A.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Users in child.B cannot access a website in child.A that uses
>> >>> > integrated
>> >>> > windows authentication [IIS error 401 3 5].
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Getting more confused. The problem is that if I add just the users
>> >>> > to
>> >>> > the
>> >>> > domain local it works.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > "Remco" wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> it says "...Because groups with global scope are not replicated
>> >>> >> outside
>> >>> >> their own domain...." which means that he has to use universal
>> >>> >> groups?
>> >>> >> anyway, give it a try, and let us know :-)
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> "Don Wilwol" <donWilwol@(EMAIL)yahoo.com> schreef in bericht
>> >>> >> news:OA7sUM4jIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> >>> >> > global or universal groups will work.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/79d93e46-ecab-4165-8001-7adc3c9f804e1033.mspx?mfr=true
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > --
>> >>> >> > Hope it helps!
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > dw
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > ----------------------------------------------
>> >>> >> > Don Wilwol
>> >>> >> > www.atthedatacenter.com
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > "Remco" <veralloinjamaica@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >>> >> > news:2fe6b$47eab58d$541f1cbd$12689@cache5.tilbu1.nb.home.nl...
>> >>> >> >> As far as I know a GC server in Forest A does not store the
>> >>> >> >> information
>> >>> >> >> of Local Domain groups of a domain outside its own forest. It
>> >>> >> >> does
>> >>> >> >> not
>> >>> >> >> get replicated.
>> >>> >> >> that why you should have Universal groups. I am not 100% sure
>> >>> >> >> of
>> >>> >> >> this,
>> >>> >> >> anyone can acknowledge this?? Am I correct?
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> "domain_trust_confused"
>> >>> >> >> <domain_trust_confused@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >>> >> >> schreef in bericht
>> >>> >> >> news:DBDEF0F6-4702-40E4-A841-BDC161910C43@microsoft.com...
>> >>> >> >>> Hello All,
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>> We have 2 forests A and B; both have a child domain under it.
>> >>> >> >>> We now have a two-way trust from child.A to child.B.
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>> I have created a Local Domain Group in child.A that contains a
>> >>> >> >>> global
>> >>> >> >>> security group from child.B.
>> >>> >> >>> We have a website that requires integrated windows
>> >>> >> >>> authentication.
>> >>> >> >>> With just the group the users get access denied, but if I do
>> >>> >> >>> add
>> >>> >> >>> single
>> >>> >> >>> users child.B to the local domain group in child.A then the
>> >>> >> >>> users
>> >>> >> >>> in
>> >>> >> >>> child.B
>> >>> >> >>> are able to access the website with no prompt for password
>> >>> >> >>> [ie.
>> >>> >> >>> windows
>> >>> >> >>> authentication works properly].
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>> Any ideas?
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>