Domain Controller Crashed - how to Transfer Role

Hi:
Need urgent help here -
One of the domain controller with Infrastruture Role crashed. Other domain
controllers carry other roles. On AD Users and computers, under Infrastruture
tab, Operation Manager - has "Error" in the field, Next line is: "the
current operation master is offline. The role cannot be transferred" It has
the "chnage" botton on right.
How do I tranfer instratruture role to another domain controller? And clean
up AD for this server. I am thinking about getting ride of this server since
it's old. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Phillip
Thu Sep 04 14:29:29 PDT 2008


"RayRogers" <RayRogers@news.postalias> wrote in message
news:0EEDBB4D-4946-47CB-8AFB-91D11DF27B4D@microsoft.com...
> Hi:
> Need urgent help here -
> One of the domain controller with Infrastruture Role crashed. Other domain
> controllers carry other roles. On AD Users and computers, under
> Infrastruture
> tab, Operation Manager - has "Error" in the field, Next line is: "the
> current operation master is offline. The role cannot be transferred" It
> has
> the "chnage" botton on right.
> How do I tranfer instratruture role to another domain controller? And
> clean
> up AD for this server. I am thinking about getting ride of this server
> since
> it's old. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

You can seize the roles using this:

Using Ntdsutil.exe to transfer or seize FSMO roles to a domain controller
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/255504/en-us

The Global Catalog setting you just have to set it yourself manually,...it
is not something that is "seized".

Make sure the Clients point to the "living" DC first in their TCP/IP Specs.
You might also be able to give the "living" DC the IP# of the dead one
temporarily as a secondary IP#,...just don't bring the old one back with
that address and cause an IP conflict. You can jocky the IP#s back the way
they should be after the dead one is back alive,...then DCPromo it back to
being a DC again,...then shift the Roles how you want them.

--
Phillip Windell
www.wandtv.com

The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,
or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
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Mathieu
Thu Sep 04 14:36:34 PDT 2008

Hello,

You can seize it:
Using Ntdsutil.exe to transfer or seize FSMO roles to a domain controller
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/255504


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Cordialement,
Mathieu CHATEAU
English blog: http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com
French blog: http://www.lotp.fr

"RayRogers" <RayRogers@news.postalias> a écrit dans le message de
news:0EEDBB4D-4946-47CB-8AFB-91D11DF27B4D@microsoft.com...
> Hi:
> Need urgent help here -
> One of the domain controller with Infrastruture Role crashed. Other domain
> controllers carry other roles. On AD Users and computers, under
> Infrastruture
> tab, Operation Manager - has "Error" in the field, Next line is: "the
> current operation master is offline. The role cannot be transferred" It
> has
> the "chnage" botton on right.
> How do I tranfer instratruture role to another domain controller? And
> clean
> up AD for this server. I am thinking about getting ride of this server
> since
> it's old. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
>

Phillip
Thu Sep 04 14:32:48 PDT 2008

If you bring the dea one back with the same name and IP# when finished, you
may not have to mess with any MetaData Cleanup,...but you might want to get
a second opinion with that.

I personally would try to bring the DC back with a Tape backup using Active
Directory Restore Mode. I think it would be the least disruption and you
probably won't have to do anything else.

--
Phillip Windell
www.wandtv.com

The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,
or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
-----------------------------------------------------

RayRogers
Thu Sep 04 14:56:00 PDT 2008

Thanks. I will try to seize the role according to the article. The server
harware is out of warranty and it had hard disk error and we might just
retire this one.
Thanks.


"Mathieu CHATEAU" wrote:

> Hello,
>
> You can seize it:
> Using Ntdsutil.exe to transfer or seize FSMO roles to a domain controller
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/255504
>
>
> --
> Cordialement,
> Mathieu CHATEAU
> English blog: http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com
> French blog: http://www.lotp.fr
>
> "RayRogers" <RayRogers@news.postalias> a écrit dans le message de
> news:0EEDBB4D-4946-47CB-8AFB-91D11DF27B4D@microsoft.com...
> > Hi:
> > Need urgent help here -
> > One of the domain controller with Infrastruture Role crashed. Other domain
> > controllers carry other roles. On AD Users and computers, under
> > Infrastruture
> > tab, Operation Manager - has "Error" in the field, Next line is: "the
> > current operation master is offline. The role cannot be transferred" It
> > has
> > the "chnage" botton on right.
> > How do I tranfer instratruture role to another domain controller? And
> > clean
> > up AD for this server. I am thinking about getting ride of this server
> > since
> > it's old. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
> >
>
>

Paul
Fri Sep 05 05:27:06 PDT 2008

Make sure you still cleanup your metadata

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=216498

--
Paul Bergson
MVP - Directory Services
MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4

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"RayRogers" <RayRogers@news.postalias> wrote in message
news:C37247EB-9462-4B89-A77D-56C55A23E8FE@microsoft.com...
> Thanks. I will try to seize the role according to the article. The server
> harware is out of warranty and it had hard disk error and we might just
> retire this one.
> Thanks.
>
>
> "Mathieu CHATEAU" wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> You can seize it:
>> Using Ntdsutil.exe to transfer or seize FSMO roles to a domain controller
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/255504
>>
>>
>> --
>> Cordialement,
>> Mathieu CHATEAU
>> English blog: http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com
>> French blog: http://www.lotp.fr
>>
>> "RayRogers" <RayRogers@news.postalias> a écrit dans le message de
>> news:0EEDBB4D-4946-47CB-8AFB-91D11DF27B4D@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi:
>> > Need urgent help here -
>> > One of the domain controller with Infrastruture Role crashed. Other
>> > domain
>> > controllers carry other roles. On AD Users and computers, under
>> > Infrastruture
>> > tab, Operation Manager - has "Error" in the field, Next line is: "the
>> > current operation master is offline. The role cannot be transferred" It
>> > has
>> > the "chnage" botton on right.
>> > How do I tranfer instratruture role to another domain controller? And
>> > clean
>> > up AD for this server. I am thinking about getting ride of this server
>> > since
>> > it's old. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
>> >
>>
>>

Paul
Fri Sep 05 05:26:36 PDT 2008

You can't just name a dc the same and expect it to still work. You need to
either do a full restore from backup or do a metadata cleanup. I would do
the metadata cleanup and then repromote a new dc and you can name the
repromoted dc the same name. I always change the name (Increment the count
on the end of the name) but keep the ip address the same.

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=216498

--
Paul Bergson
MVP - Directory Services
MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4

http://www.pbbergs.com

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"Phillip Windell" <philwindell@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23Y21yYtDJHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> If you bring the dea one back with the same name and IP# when finished,
> you may not have to mess with any MetaData Cleanup,...but you might want
> to get a second opinion with that.
>
> I personally would try to bring the DC back with a Tape backup using
> Active Directory Restore Mode. I think it would be the least disruption
> and you probably won't have to do anything else.
>
> --
> Phillip Windell
> www.wandtv.com
>
> The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or
> Microsoft,
> or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
> -----------------------------------------------------
>
>

Phillip
Fri Sep 05 06:22:55 PDT 2008

"Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" <pbergson@allete_nospam.com> wrote in message
news:us2jkK1DJHA.4976@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> You can't just name a dc the same and expect it to still work. You need
> to either do a full restore from backup or do a metadata cleanup. I would
> do the metadata cleanup and then repromote a new dc and you can name the
> repromoted dc the same name. I always change the name (Increment the
> count on the end of the name) but keep the ip address the same.

Yea, I knew that building a machine with the same name is still a different
machine,...I just wasn't sure about the Metadata side of things if the new
DC had the same name in the end when finished. So I was hoping someone would
clarify that.

Now if you restore one from tape using active directory restore mode it
would be the "same machine",...then there would not be anything to clean up?
You'd just have to wait for AD Replication to catch up as the DC with the
authortiative copy of AD refreshes the non-authoritative copy on the one
resotred?
--
Phillip Windell
www.wandtv.com

The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,
or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
-----------------------------------------------------

Paul
Fri Sep 05 06:54:30 PDT 2008

Correct, but if it is only a dc I would just clean up and repromote.
Restores are a hassle.

--
Paul Bergson
MVP - Directory Services
MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4

http://www.pbbergs.com

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"Phillip Windell" <philwindell@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23hWdmr1DJHA.448@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> "Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" <pbergson@allete_nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:us2jkK1DJHA.4976@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> You can't just name a dc the same and expect it to still work. You need
>> to either do a full restore from backup or do a metadata cleanup. I
>> would do the metadata cleanup and then repromote a new dc and you can
>> name the repromoted dc the same name. I always change the name
>> (Increment the count on the end of the name) but keep the ip address the
>> same.
>
> Yea, I knew that building a machine with the same name is still a
> different machine,...I just wasn't sure about the Metadata side of things
> if the new DC had the same name in the end when finished. So I was hoping
> someone would clarify that.
>
> Now if you restore one from tape using active directory restore mode it
> would be the "same machine",...then there would not be anything to clean
> up? You'd just have to wait for AD Replication to catch up as the DC with
> the authortiative copy of AD refreshes the non-authoritative copy on the
> one resotred?
> --
> Phillip Windell
> www.wandtv.com
>
> The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or
> Microsoft,
> or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
> -----------------------------------------------------
>
>

Phillip
Fri Sep 05 07:02:41 PDT 2008

"Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" <pbergson@allete_nospam.com> wrote in message
news:uc0Is71DJHA.4724@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Correct, but if it is only a dc I would just clean up and repromote.
> Restores are a hassle.

Ok, cool.

--
Phillip Windell
www.wandtv.com

The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,
or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
-----------------------------------------------------

Jorge
Wed Sep 10 01:56:10 PDT 2008

see:
http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/archive/2006/01/05/373.aspx

SEIZING is the key word here

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"RayRogers" <RayRogers@news.postalias> wrote in message
news:0EEDBB4D-4946-47CB-8AFB-91D11DF27B4D@microsoft.com...
> Hi:
> Need urgent help here -
> One of the domain controller with Infrastruture Role crashed. Other domain
> controllers carry other roles. On AD Users and computers, under
> Infrastruture
> tab, Operation Manager - has "Error" in the field, Next line is: "the
> current operation master is offline. The role cannot be transferred" It
> has
> the "chnage" botton on right.
> How do I tranfer instratruture role to another domain controller? And
> clean
> up AD for this server. I am thinking about getting ride of this server
> since
> it's old. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
>