Demoted 2K DC in Sites and Services

Two days ago I demoted a 2K DC after having transferred all FSMO roles 5 days
prior to a 2003 DC. The 2K DC still shows up in Site and Services as a
server, however the NTDS settings for it are gone. Will this entry eventually
be purged, or should I manually delete it? Any futher AD cleanup needed if I
do delete it? Also, after demoting the 2K DC, clients could not connect via
Outlook to the Exchange 2003 server. After I powered off the 2K box they
could. Any thoughts on why that happened? Lastly, now that the remaining 2
DCs are 2003, I am considering raising the FFL and DFL to 2003. Will doing so
pose any problems for the Exchange2003 server? We are a small (60
workstations) environment and I really don't think we stand to gain much by
raising the forest and domain levels, do we? We also have four Adaptec (was
Quantum) Snap servers (2- 2200s and a 4100) which after the demotion of the
2K box had to have their OS upgraded to ver 4.x in order to authenticate with
the 2003 DCs. Will raising the forest and/or domain level cause problems with
these?

Thanks for any and all assistance.
Kevin

Jorge
Fri Mar 28 08:46:03 PDT 2008

Hi
You have to manually delete it. That's by design.

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I hope that the information above helps you.
Have a Nice day.

Jorge Silva
MCSE, MVP Directory Services

kevin
Fri Mar 28 09:00:01 PDT 2008

Yes, that answered the first (and primary in importance) of my questions.

Any thoughts on the impact on Exchange2003 with the forest + domain level
being raised?

Thank you.

"Jorge Silva" wrote:

> Hi
> You have to manually delete it. That's by design.
>
> --
> I hope that the information above helps you.
> Have a Nice day.
>
> Jorge Silva
> MCSE, MVP Directory Services

Jorge
Fri Mar 28 09:23:32 PDT 2008

please see inline
> Will this entry eventually
> be purged, or should I manually delete it?
Manuall.

> Any futher AD cleanup needed if I
> do delete it?
Make sure that DNS records for that DC are removed. Make sure that a GC is
available for exchange.

> Also, after demoting the 2K DC, clients could not connect via
> Outlook to the Exchange 2003 server. After I powered off the 2K box they
> could. Any thoughts on why that happened?
Make sure that a GC is available for exchange and clients. Make sure that
the exchange is pointing to a available GC. You can also check for
additional exchange questions in exchange ngs.

> Lastly, now that the remaining 2
> DCs are 2003, I am considering raising the FFL and DFL to 2003. Will doing
> so
> pose any problems for the Exchange2003 server?
Since that you already have exchange 2003, you shouldn't have problems with
that.

> We are a small (60
> workstations) environment and I really don't think we stand to gain much
> by
> raising the forest and domain levels, do we?

Before doing that you must have all DCs with 2003 or later. In 2003 FFL
you've LVR available, better replication efficiency, you can check more at:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322692/en-us

--
I hope that the information above helps you.
Have a Nice day.

Jorge Silva
MCSE, MVP Directory Services

kevin
Fri Mar 28 10:39:01 PDT 2008

Thank you.

Do I need to remove all DNS entries? I recall reading an article that
mentioned _msdsc and A record for host, but how about other places on the
various zones where it appears still in the list with remaining DCs?

Thanks again for your assistance.

"Jorge Silva" wrote:

> please see inline
> > Will this entry eventually
> > be purged, or should I manually delete it?
> Manuall.
>
> > Any futher AD cleanup needed if I
> > do delete it?
> Make sure that DNS records for that DC are removed. Make sure that a GC is
> available for exchange.
>
> > Also, after demoting the 2K DC, clients could not connect via
> > Outlook to the Exchange 2003 server. After I powered off the 2K box they
> > could. Any thoughts on why that happened?
> Make sure that a GC is available for exchange and clients. Make sure that
> the exchange is pointing to a available GC. You can also check for
> additional exchange questions in exchange ngs.
>
> > Lastly, now that the remaining 2
> > DCs are 2003, I am considering raising the FFL and DFL to 2003. Will doing
> > so
> > pose any problems for the Exchange2003 server?
> Since that you already have exchange 2003, you shouldn't have problems with
> that.
>
> > We are a small (60
> > workstations) environment and I really don't think we stand to gain much
> > by
> > raising the forest and domain levels, do we?
>
> Before doing that you must have all DCs with 2003 or later. In 2003 FFL
> you've LVR available, better replication efficiency, you can check more at:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322692/en-us
>
> --
> I hope that the information above helps you.
> Have a Nice day.
>
> Jorge Silva
> MCSE, MVP Directory Services
>

Jorge
Sat Mar 29 01:14:32 PDT 2008

You shouldn't need to do that, BUT... Confirm after demotion that the
records for that server were removed, or, manually remove them.

--
I hope that the information above helps you.
Have a Nice day.

Jorge Silva
MCSE, MVP Directory Services

kevin
Sat Mar 29 06:17:00 PDT 2008

It is has records in DNS. I am going to remove the server from the domain
completely and see if they are removed then, otherwise I will do it manually.

Thanks again for your help.

"Jorge Silva" wrote:

> You shouldn't need to do that, BUT... Confirm after demotion that the
> records for that server were removed, or, manually remove them.
>
> --
> I hope that the information above helps you.
> Have a Nice day.
>
> Jorge Silva
> MCSE, MVP Directory Services
>