IE7 - updating only one of 'em?

Hi all,

I realize that IE7 is an update to IE6, and thus as with every previous
version, you can't install and run them side-by-side.

XP (and 2003) x64 however is a unique beast, as it ships with both the x86
and x64 versions running independantly. I would think one should be able to
update, say, IE6 x86 to IE7, but keep IE6 x64.

Has anybody actually tried this yet? I don't see why it wouldn't work, but
I just don't want to be the first to report whether you actually can or not.
:o)

NLJ
Thu Oct 19 11:38:54 CDT 2006

On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:19:03 -0400, Homer J. Simpson wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I realize that IE7 is an update to IE6, and thus as with every previous
> version, you can't install and run them side-by-side.
>
> XP (and 2003) x64 however is a unique beast, as it ships with both the x86
> and x64 versions running independantly. I would think one should be able to
> update, say, IE6 x86 to IE7, but keep IE6 x64.
>
> Has anybody actually tried this yet? I don't see why it wouldn't work, but
> I just don't want to be the first to report whether you actually can or not.
> :o)

Nope, ive just install IE 7 and both IE's are 7.

NLJ

Homer
Thu Oct 19 11:43:14 CDT 2006

> Nope, ive just install IE 7 and both IE's are 7.

So, you've installed one version of IE7 (which?), and both have been updated
automatically??

John
Thu Oct 19 11:48:46 CDT 2006

If you feel adventurous, you could always copy and rename the current IE6
folder in either Program Files or Program Files (86) and after the install,
replace it (after making a copy) and see what happens. You can always put
it back.


"Homer J. Simpson" <root@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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> Hi all,
>
> I realize that IE7 is an update to IE6, and thus as with every previous
> version, you can't install and run them side-by-side.
>
> XP (and 2003) x64 however is a unique beast, as it ships with both the x86
> and x64 versions running independantly. I would think one should be able
> to update, say, IE6 x86 to IE7, but keep IE6 x64.
>
> Has anybody actually tried this yet? I don't see why it wouldn't work,
> but I just don't want to be the first to report whether you actually can
> or not. :o)
>
>

Homer
Thu Oct 19 11:59:42 CDT 2006

> If you feel adventurous, you could always copy and rename the current IE6
> folder in either Program Files or Program Files (86) and after the
> install, replace it (after making a copy) and see what happens. You can
> always put it back.

I would think that there are more files being replaced during the update
process than just whatever's under the IE folder under Program Files /
Program Files (x86)

NLJ
Thu Oct 19 12:07:34 CDT 2006

On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:43:14 -0400, Homer J. Simpson wrote:

>> Nope, ive just install IE 7 and both IE's are 7.
>
> So, you've installed one version of IE7 (which?), and both have been updated
> automatically??

Jep, package was for x64.

NLJ

John
Thu Oct 19 12:23:59 CDT 2006

Of course, but do they matter. I don't have IE6 installed or I would try.
Shouldn't take more than a couple of minutes to find out. I personally love
IE7 and don't use IE64 at all. When it is launched by some program I just
copy the address into an IE32 and cancel it.


"Homer J. Simpson" <root@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:e5Hx3$58GHA.2288@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> If you feel adventurous, you could always copy and rename the current IE6
>> folder in either Program Files or Program Files (86) and after the
>> install, replace it (after making a copy) and see what happens. You can
>> always put it back.
>
> I would think that there are more files being replaced during the update
> process than just whatever's under the IE folder under Program Files /
> Program Files (x86)
>
>

Homer
Thu Oct 19 12:49:04 CDT 2006

> Of course, but do they matter.

I would think they do. If you install IE7 and then revert back to the
original "c:\program files (x86)\internet explorer" folder (from IE6), I
wouldn't be surprised at all if something broke.

> I don't have IE6 installed or I would try. Shouldn't take more than a
> couple of minutes to find out. I personally love IE7 and don't use IE64
> at all. When it is launched by some program I just copy the address into
> an IE32 and cancel it.

It's not really a matter of preference; I started this thread as an "is it
doable" question...if I can run, say, IE6 32-bit and IE7 64-bit side-by-side
on one machine, then that's one less VM I have to keep around for testing.

Homer
Thu Oct 19 12:50:49 CDT 2006

>>> Nope, ive just install IE 7 and both IE's are 7.
>>
>> So, you've installed one version of IE7 (which?), and both have been
>> updated
>> automatically??
>
> Jep, package was for x64.

...which then begs the question, what happens if you run the x86 installer.
I think I'm gonna have to take the time to install XP x64 in a VM to find
out.

John
Thu Oct 19 13:12:45 CDT 2006

Then it's not possible unless you can modify the installer. Both are
updated by the IE7 executable.

"Homer J. Simpson" <root@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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>> Of course, but do they matter.
>
> I would think they do. If you install IE7 and then revert back to the
> original "c:\program files (x86)\internet explorer" folder (from IE6), I
> wouldn't be surprised at all if something broke.
>
>> I don't have IE6 installed or I would try. Shouldn't take more than a
>> couple of minutes to find out. I personally love IE7 and don't use IE64
>> at all. When it is launched by some program I just copy the address into
>> an IE32 and cancel it.
>
> It's not really a matter of preference; I started this thread as an "is it
> doable" question...if I can run, say, IE6 32-bit and IE7 64-bit
> side-by-side on one machine, then that's one less VM I have to keep around
> for testing.
>
>

Colin
Thu Oct 19 20:39:18 CDT 2006

What sort of vm do you plan to install XP x64 into? Not a Microsoft one,
that's for sure. VPC and VS do not support x64 guests.

"Homer J. Simpson" <root@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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>>>> Nope, ive just install IE 7 and both IE's are 7.
>>>
>>> So, you've installed one version of IE7 (which?), and both have been
>>> updated
>>> automatically??
>>
>> Jep, package was for x64.
>
> ...which then begs the question, what happens if you run the x86
> installer. I think I'm gonna have to take the time to install XP x64 in a
> VM to find out.
>
>

Aaron
Thu Oct 19 20:57:37 CDT 2006

VMware supports x64 guests just fine.

- Aaron

"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
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> What sort of vm do you plan to install XP x64 into? Not a Microsoft one,
> that's for sure. VPC and VS do not support x64 guests.
>
> "Homer J. Simpson" <root@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
> news:%23mrFcc68GHA.4644@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Nope, ive just install IE 7 and both IE's are 7.
>>>>
>>>> So, you've installed one version of IE7 (which?), and both have been
>>>> updated
>>>> automatically??
>>>
>>> Jep, package was for x64.
>>
>> ...which then begs the question, what happens if you run the x86
>> installer. I think I'm gonna have to take the time to install XP x64 in a
>> VM to find out.
>>
>>
>
>

Homer
Fri Oct 20 09:07:12 CDT 2006

> What sort of vm do you plan to install XP x64 into? Not a Microsoft one,
> that's for sure. VPC and VS do not support x64 guests.

The VMware sort, thank you very much.

Colin
Mon Oct 23 11:09:56 CDT 2006

It would still be a violation of the EULA since all copies of XP Pro x64 are
OEM. According to Ben Armstrong (MSFT) there is no such thing as a legally
licensed OEM vm.

"Homer J. Simpson" <root@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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>> What sort of vm do you plan to install XP x64 into? Not a Microsoft one,
>> that's for sure. VPC and VS do not support x64 guests.
>
> The VMware sort, thank you very much.
>
>

Colin
Mon Oct 23 11:56:04 CDT 2006

Note: MSDN copies of x64 are not OEM but are also not licensed for personal
or productivity usage either.

"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
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> It would still be a violation of the EULA since all copies of XP Pro x64
> are OEM. According to Ben Armstrong (MSFT) there is no such thing as a
> legally licensed OEM vm.
>
> "Homer J. Simpson" <root@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
> news:%23CrJQEF9GHA.4084@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> What sort of vm do you plan to install XP x64 into? Not a Microsoft
>>> one, that's for sure. VPC and VS do not support x64 guests.
>>
>> The VMware sort, thank you very much.
>>
>>
>
>

Homer
Mon Oct 23 13:15:31 CDT 2006

> It would still be a violation of the EULA since all copies of XP Pro x64
> are OEM. According to Ben Armstrong (MSFT) there is no such thing as a
> legally licensed OEM vm.

The whole reason I brought VMs into this discussion was to find out whether
you could run IE7's x86 installer on XP 64-bit to only update its built-in
32-bit IE6 instead of trying it on my 'real' machine. Not to keep using it
perpetually.

If MS thinks I'm gonna try *that* on my only x64 machine outside a VM, they
can bite my shiny metal ass.

Colin
Mon Oct 23 15:04:38 CDT 2006

Chomp! :)

"Homer J. Simpson" <root@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:u0q$78s9GHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> It would still be a violation of the EULA since all copies of XP Pro x64
>> are OEM. According to Ben Armstrong (MSFT) there is no such thing as a
>> legally licensed OEM vm.
>
> The whole reason I brought VMs into this discussion was to find out
> whether you could run IE7's x86 installer on XP 64-bit to only update its
> built-in 32-bit IE6 instead of trying it on my 'real' machine. Not to
> keep using it perpetually.
>
> If MS thinks I'm gonna try *that* on my only x64 machine outside a VM,
> they can bite my shiny metal ass.
>