Can i dual boot with XP 32 after i installed x64?

Like the subject says.

Andre
Thu Sep 29 10:29:34 CDT 2005

The best way to avoid causing headaches is to install the latest version of
Windows last. In this case, install Windows XP x86 on a separate partition
first, then install XP Pro x64 on another partition last.
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"lostword" <lostword@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Like the subject says.

John
Thu Sep 29 10:30:40 CDT 2005

Yes. Depending on your setup and how you have done things so far, it may be
easy or more complicated.


"lostword" <lostword@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Like the subject says.

John
Thu Sep 29 10:32:24 CDT 2005

If you gave up your license under TAP, you will have to purchase another.


"lostword" <lostword@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Like the subject says.

lostword
Thu Sep 29 11:37:15 CDT 2005

I have XP 32 and a new XP 64,the problem is i already installed x64 and its
lack of drivers for certain hardware is a real pain,but for some other things
are working quite good.

I have x64 installed on drive C,can i install my 32bit XP on a different
partition from DOS? what sorts of headaches am i suppose to get? :)

Thanks for your quick replies people.

"John Barnes" wrote:

> If you gave up your license under TAP, you will have to purchase another.
>
>
> "lostword" <lostword@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C54ADE82-380A-458C-AAC2-A8E4AF934633@microsoft.com...
> > Like the subject says.
>
>
>

John
Thu Sep 29 11:51:29 CDT 2005

If you don't have alot of time invested in your x64 install, your best
approach is to wipe your drive, install x32 on a new partition of
appropriate size, then install x64 on a new partition on the balance of the
drive ( unless you want a third data partition ). Otherwise, you will have
problems getting your current drive partitioned, unless you add a second
drive and the problems described below in the posting of Sept 28 by rogue426
Missing or corrupt ntoskrnl.exe ,please reinstall when you install x32
last.

"lostword" <lostword@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I have XP 32 and a new XP 64,the problem is i already installed x64 and its
> lack of drivers for certain hardware is a real pain,but for some other
> things
> are working quite good.
>
> I have x64 installed on drive C,can i install my 32bit XP on a different
> partition from DOS? what sorts of headaches am i suppose to get? :)
>
> Thanks for your quick replies people.
>
> "John Barnes" wrote:
>
>> If you gave up your license under TAP, you will have to purchase another.
>>
>>
>> "lostword" <lostword@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:C54ADE82-380A-458C-AAC2-A8E4AF934633@microsoft.com...
>> > Like the subject says.
>>
>>
>>

Andre
Thu Sep 29 11:58:47 CDT 2005

Generally migraines. :) Ok, you brought up something new, DOS, is that also
on separate partition? The thing is if you install XP x86 after XP Pro x64,
its going corrupt the version of NTLDR and NTdetect.com. You could probably
do a repair of the XP Pro x64 installation after installing XP x86 by
booting off the CD and enter recovery console. I personally would just back
up data and do a clean orderly install.
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"lostword" <lostword@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I have XP 32 and a new XP 64,the problem is i already installed x64 and its
> lack of drivers for certain hardware is a real pain,but for some other
> things
> are working quite good.
>
> I have x64 installed on drive C,can i install my 32bit XP on a different
> partition from DOS? what sorts of headaches am i suppose to get? :)
>
> Thanks for your quick replies people.
>
> "John Barnes" wrote:
>
>> If you gave up your license under TAP, you will have to purchase another.
>>
>>
>> "lostword" <lostword@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:C54ADE82-380A-458C-AAC2-A8E4AF934633@microsoft.com...
>> > Like the subject says.
>>
>>
>>

lostword
Thu Sep 29 12:16:04 CDT 2005

Ok so the best way of doing that is to install XP 32 and then to install x64
on a different partition...btw,when x64 will get mature enough and i would
see no reason on using the 32bit version,can i just delete the 32bit version
(delete its folders)? (and yes i know i will lose all data :) ).

VWWall
Thu Sep 29 12:21:50 CDT 2005

lostword wrote:
> I have XP 32 and a new XP 64,the problem is i already installed x64 and its
> lack of drivers for certain hardware is a real pain,but for some other things
> are working quite good.
>
> I have x64 installed on drive C,can i install my 32bit XP on a different
> partition from DOS? what sorts of headaches am i suppose to get? :)

You don't have to install from DOS.

Windows always wants the latest version to be "boss". It assumes that
is the one you installed last. You can install an earlier version after
a later one, but the multiple boot system gets messed up. It's not
really too hard to fix, but does involve fooling with the boot order and
the files that are involved.

As has been suggested, it may be easier to remove x64, re-install XP32,
and then install x64 again.

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VWWall
Thu Sep 29 12:39:13 CDT 2005

lostword wrote:
> Ok so the best way of doing that is to install XP 32 and then to install x64
> on a different partition...btw,when x64 will get mature enough and i would
> see no reason on using the 32bit version,can i just delete the 32bit version
> (delete its folders)? (and yes i know i will lose all data :) ).
>

It's not a question of x64 maturing, but rather that of applications and
drivers catching up. Then x64 would not need WOW to run 32 bit
programs. Windows has done a remarkable job of ensuring backwards
compatibility, but something's gotta give! We'll probably never see the
ability to use all 32bit programs in x64, but we will see 64bit
replacements that work better.

Meanwhile, dual booting can give you the best of both worlds. :-)

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Andre
Thu Sep 29 12:53:04 CDT 2005

I recommend you format the partition and you should be ok. x64 is mature
enough, its just the applications that are not there, a majority of most 32
bit applications run flawlessly on x64 which shows how flexible and
compatible the platform is with legacy applications.
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"lostword" <lostword@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Ok so the best way of doing that is to install XP 32 and then to install
> x64
> on a different partition...btw,when x64 will get mature enough and i would
> see no reason on using the 32bit version,can i just delete the 32bit
> version
> (delete its folders)? (and yes i know i will lose all data :) ).
>

Darrellg
Thu Sep 29 16:32:16 CDT 2005

Hello,
All you need to do is to back up the NTLDR and NTdetect.com from the root
prior to installing XPSP2.
These are the version that are shipping with X64. ( These versions will
boot Windows XP 32-bit as well as 64-bit)
Install Windows XP to a separate drive or partition and all relevant
service packs and other updates.
Once that is completed, copy over the version of NTLDR and NTDetect back to
the root.

Installing Windows XPSP2 will overwrite NTLDR and NTDetect.com from the
installed Windows X64 version.
The versions of NTLDR and NTdetect.com from prior version of Windows older
than Windows Server 2003 SP1 or Windows X64 versions will not be able to
load the Windows x64 editions.
All that needs to be done is to replace those two files.
Thanks,
Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

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Andre
Thu Sep 29 17:37:34 CDT 2005

Great tip and info Darrell, thanks. :)
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""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <Darrellg@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hello,
> All you need to do is to back up the NTLDR and NTdetect.com from the root
> prior to installing XPSP2.
> These are the version that are shipping with X64. ( These versions will
> boot Windows XP 32-bit as well as 64-bit)
> Install Windows XP to a separate drive or partition and all relevant
> service packs and other updates.
> Once that is completed, copy over the version of NTLDR and NTDetect back
> to
> the root.
>
> Installing Windows XPSP2 will overwrite NTLDR and NTDetect.com from the
> installed Windows X64 version.
> The versions of NTLDR and NTdetect.com from prior version of Windows older
> than Windows Server 2003 SP1 or Windows X64 versions will not be able to
> load the Windows x64 editions.
> All that needs to be done is to replace those two files.
> Thanks,
> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
> --------------------
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> <
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> <
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> <>
> <>
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David
Fri Sep 30 13:27:08 CDT 2005


"lostword" <lostword@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A1CD627A-C626-4AA5-A840-F4E080656907@microsoft.com...
> Ok so the best way of doing that is to install XP 32 and then to install
x64
> on a different partition...btw,when x64 will get mature enough and i would
> see no reason on using the 32bit version,can i just delete the 32bit
version
> (delete its folders)? (and yes i know i will lose all data :) ).

I don't know your age but I sincerely doubt you'll live that long... ;-)

I believe that X64 is as mature as it will ever get, the push for drivers,
software, etc. is toward Vista and most companies seem to feel there is no
need to release 64 bit anything until Vista is released in a year or so....

If you can get X64 to work with your existing applications and hardware
that's great, don't hesitate to use it but if, like me, you have to wait for
more hardware and software to become available before you can use it, you
might just as well delete it.

Andre
Sun Oct 02 19:01:27 CDT 2005

Actually, I'm Methuselah's grandson. :)
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"David R. Norton [MVP]" <d_r_nortonNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "lostword" <lostword@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:A1CD627A-C626-4AA5-A840-F4E080656907@microsoft.com...
>> Ok so the best way of doing that is to install XP 32 and then to install
> x64
>> on a different partition...btw,when x64 will get mature enough and i
>> would
>> see no reason on using the 32bit version,can i just delete the 32bit
> version
>> (delete its folders)? (and yes i know i will lose all data :) ).
>
> I don't know your age but I sincerely doubt you'll live that long... ;-)
>
> I believe that X64 is as mature as it will ever get, the push for drivers,
> software, etc. is toward Vista and most companies seem to feel there is no
> need to release 64 bit anything until Vista is released in a year or
> so....
>
> If you can get X64 to work with your existing applications and hardware
> that's great, don't hesitate to use it but if, like me, you have to wait
> for
> more hardware and software to become available before you can use it, you
> might just as well delete it.
>
>
>
>
>

Wayne
Sun Oct 02 23:45:48 CDT 2005

"David R. Norton [MVP]" <d_r_nortonNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
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-snip
> I believe that X64 is as mature as it will ever get, the push for
> drivers, software, etc. is toward Vista and most companies seem to
> feel there is no need to release 64 bit anything until Vista is
> released in a year or so....
>
-snip

You do know there is a 64 bit Vista, right? And Vista x64 still requires 64
bit drivers. :o)



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David
Wed Oct 05 13:39:18 CDT 2005


"Wayne Wastier" <waynewastier@nospam.charter.net> wrote in message
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> "David R. Norton [MVP]" <d_r_nortonNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:%23SU9WyexFHA.3000@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl
>
> -snip
> > I believe that X64 is as mature as it will ever get, the push for
> > drivers, software, etc. is toward Vista and most companies seem to
> > feel there is no need to release 64 bit anything until Vista is
> > released in a year or so....
> >
> -snip
>
> You do know there is a 64 bit Vista, right? And Vista x64 still requires
64
> bit drivers. :o)

And we know that Vista 64 suffers almost the same driver problems as X64.

We'll see what Beta 2 brings.....

Wayne
Wed Oct 05 13:47:46 CDT 2005

"David R. Norton [MVP]" <d_r_nortonNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Wayne Wastier" <waynewastier@nospam.charter.net> wrote in message
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>> "David R. Norton [MVP]" <d_r_nortonNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23SU9WyexFHA.3000@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl
>>
>> -snip
>>> I believe that X64 is as mature as it will ever get, the push for
>>> drivers, software, etc. is toward Vista and most companies seem to
>>> feel there is no need to release 64 bit anything until Vista is
>>> released in a year or so....
>>>
>> -snip
>>
>> You do know there is a 64 bit Vista, right? And Vista x64 still
>> requires 64 bit drivers. :o)
>
> And we know that Vista 64 suffers almost the same driver problems as
> X64.
>
> We'll see what Beta 2 brings.....

Now you're cooking with gasolene. LOL :)

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crash1013
Fri Oct 07 04:42:03 CDT 2005

Ok, I already have a dual boot setup, xp 32 on drive c and demo xp 64 on
drive d, when I install the purchased version of xp 64 will it damage
anything?

"VWWall" wrote:

> lostword wrote:
> > I have XP 32 and a new XP 64,the problem is i already installed x64 and its
> > lack of drivers for certain hardware is a real pain,but for some other things
> > are working quite good.
> >
> > I have x64 installed on drive C,can i install my 32bit XP on a different
> > partition from DOS? what sorts of headaches am i suppose to get? :)
>
> You don't have to install from DOS.
>
> Windows always wants the latest version to be "boss". It assumes that
> is the one you installed last. You can install an earlier version after
> a later one, but the multiple boot system gets messed up. It's not
> really too hard to fix, but does involve fooling with the boot order and
> the files that are involved.
>
> As has been suggested, it may be easier to remove x64, re-install XP32,
> and then install x64 again.
>
> --
> Virg Wall
>

Wayne
Sun Oct 09 12:35:59 CDT 2005

"Darrell Gorter[MSFT]" wrote:
> Hello,
> All you need to do is to back up the NTLDR and NTdetect.com from the
> root prior to installing XPSP2.
> These are the version that are shipping with X64. ( These versions
> will boot Windows XP 32-bit as well as 64-bit)
> Install Windows XP to a separate drive or partition and all relevant
> service packs and other updates.
> Once that is completed, copy over the version of NTLDR and NTDetect
> back to the root.
>
> Installing Windows XPSP2 will overwrite NTLDR and NTDetect.com from
> the installed Windows X64 version.
> The versions of NTLDR and NTdetect.com from prior version of Windows
> older than Windows Server 2003 SP1 or Windows X64 versions will not
> be able to load the Windows x64 editions.
> All that needs to be done is to replace those two files.
> Thanks,
> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
>

Hi Darrell. If you forgot to do the above, and already installed XP 32 bit
.... you can boot into XP 32 bit, and then using the command prompt, type cd
\ and press enter. Then type attrib -r -h -s ntldr and press enter. Then
type attrib -r -h -s ntdetect.com and press enter. Now, copy the files
ntldr and ntdetect.com from the XP x64 CD from the i386 directory to
overwrite these files on the HD. Just select y to overwrite. Then for
safeties sake, after you overwrite those files, then type attrib +h +s +r
ntldr, attrib +h +s +r ntdetect.com

Later guy,


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John
Sun Oct 09 12:51:44 CDT 2005

Easier just to drag and drop the two files from a find on the x64 cd onto
the system drive.

"Wayne Wastier" <waynewastier@nospam.charter.net> wrote in message
news:%23DjjsfPzFHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> "Darrell Gorter[MSFT]" wrote:
>> Hello,
>> All you need to do is to back up the NTLDR and NTdetect.com from the
>> root prior to installing XPSP2.
>> These are the version that are shipping with X64. ( These versions
>> will boot Windows XP 32-bit as well as 64-bit)
>> Install Windows XP to a separate drive or partition and all relevant
>> service packs and other updates.
>> Once that is completed, copy over the version of NTLDR and NTDetect
>> back to the root.
>>
>> Installing Windows XPSP2 will overwrite NTLDR and NTDetect.com from
>> the installed Windows X64 version.
>> The versions of NTLDR and NTdetect.com from prior version of Windows
>> older than Windows Server 2003 SP1 or Windows X64 versions will not
>> be able to load the Windows x64 editions.
>> All that needs to be done is to replace those two files.
>> Thanks,
>> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
>>
>
> Hi Darrell. If you forgot to do the above, and already installed XP 32
> bit .... you can boot into XP 32 bit, and then using the command prompt,
> type cd \ and press enter. Then type attrib -r -h -s ntldr and press
> enter. Then type attrib -r -h -s ntdetect.com and press enter. Now, copy
> the files ntldr and ntdetect.com from the XP x64 CD from the i386
> directory to overwrite these files on the HD. Just select y to overwrite.
> Then for safeties sake, after you overwrite those files, then type attrib
> +h +s +r ntldr, attrib +h +s +r ntdetect.com
>
> Later guy,
>
>
> --
> Wayne Wastier
> Z-80 - AMD-64
> HwayneW
>

Wayne
Sun Oct 09 13:01:14 CDT 2005

John Barnes wrote:
> Easier just to drag and drop the two files from a find on the x64 cd
> onto the system drive.
>

Didn't know that would work with protected files. Thanks for the heads up,
John. :)


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