Charlie
Sun May 11 10:26:31 PDT 2008
Good to see you back around here, Darrell. (Though I know you always
lurk.<G>)
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""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <Darrellg@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hello R.C.
> Good reminders
> Thanks,
> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
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> | >From: "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net>
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> | >Subject: Re: Windows XP Professional 64 Bit Edition installed onto an
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> | >Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 10:07:51 -0500
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> | >Hi, Darrell.
> | >
> | >Thanks for jumping in! ;<)
> | >
> | >I'd like to remind the OP that you said, "If you boot to the... CD\DVD
> to do
> | >an installation..." The results are different if you run Vista Setup
> from
> | >within WinXP. (My mindset is Vista and I kind of forgot that the OP
> said
> | >WinXP x64.)
> | >
> | >Later, you said:
> | >> If the drive letter has to be C: make sure it's the first primary
> active
> | >> partition on the drive when you run setup.
> | >
> | >Often there are more than one hard drive, and sometimes they are a mix
> of
> | >IDE (PATA)/SATA/SCSI/USB... In this situation, the BIOS and the
> operating
> | >system can disagree as to which is "the drive when you run setup." :>(
> | >
> | >Since I have only one computer and Vista has been very stable, I've not
> had
> | >to reinstall Vista since I rebuilt my system over a year ago. But I
> recall
> | >the many reinstalls during the long beta period. I still have several
> | >multi-boots installed, but seldom boot into anything but Vista Ultimate
> x64,
> | >which is in Drive C:, the first logical drive in the extended partition
> on
> | >my second HD. Each of my 3 HDs has a System Partition, but I seldom
> use
> any
> | >other than Drive D:, which is the first (only) primary active partition
> on
> | >that second HD. My WinXP refused to boot at about the time Vista went
> RTM
> | >and all my sporadic attempts to revive it with a repair install have
> failed,
> | >so I haven't run WinXP in a year and a half. When WinXP w/SP3 arrives
> Real
> | >Soon Now, I may try the repair install again. I do boot into a
> separate
> | >WinXP x64 occasionally, just to be sure I still can.
> | >
> | >Note that it is NOT necessary for WinXP and Vista to agree on which
> volume
> | >is Drive C:, or any other letter. Each operating system keeps its own
> | >letter assignments. But I've made sure that they agree that my WinXP
> is
> in
> | >Drive F:, the first logical drive in the extended partition on my first
> HD.
> | >
> | >RC
> | >--
> | >R. C. White, CPA
> | >San Marcos, TX
> | >rc@grandecom.net
> | >Microsoft Windows MVP
> | >(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)
> | >
> | >""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <Darrellg@online.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message
> | >news:Ts56JSXsIHA.1900@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl...
> | >> Hello,
> | >> Correct.
> | >> If you boot to the CD to do CD\DVD to do an installation with Windows
> XP
> | >> or
> | >> Windows Server 2003 ( Either 32-bit or 64-bit)
> | >> The local hard drive volumes are enumerated and assigned drive
> letters.
> | >> The first active primary partition it finds it given drive letter C.
> | >> If a volume exists it gets a drive letter, if you create a new volume
> it
> | >> gets the next available drive letter.
> | >> Setup does not reallocate hard drive letters, so if you delete a
> volume,
> | >> that drive letter is reserved in that setup session.
> | >> Even if you create a new volume, that new volume gets the next free
> drive
> | >> letter. The existing drive letters are available after setup
> completes
> or
> | >> if you reboot to the CD\DVD
> | >>
> | >> Drive Letter C,
> | >> Windows doesn't care like R.C states.
> | >> The majority of customers do not care.
> | >> However a very small number of people care and care in different
> ways.
> | >> Some want the drive to always be C:, some do not want it to be C:
> | >> If the drive letter has to be C: make sure it's the first primary
> active
> | >> partition on the drive when you run setup.
> | >>
> | >> Changing it after the OS is installed would cause any number or
> problems
> | >> with the OS.
> | >> There are references to the installed drive letter throughout the
> system.
> | >> Each of those would have to be changed for the system to work
> properly.
> | >>
> | >> The default for setup is to create a primary partition as the first
> | >> partition and create an Extended partition if a primary already
> exists
> on
> | >> the system.
> | >> Thanks,
> | >> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
> | >>
> | ><SNIP>
> | >> | >
> | >> | >Hi, umwhat.
> | >> | >
> | >> | >WinXP or Vista don't much care whether they are on a primary
> partition
> | >> or on
> | >> | >a logical drive in an extended partition. And they don't care if
> they
> | >> are
> | >> | >installed on Drive C: or Drive D: or Drive X:. They go where YOU
> tell
> | >> them,
> | >> | >even if you are sleepwalking at the time and don't pay attention
> to
> the
> | >> | >dialog boxes.
> | >> | >
> | >> | >Once installed, there is no way for us mere mortals to change the
> drive
> | >> | >letters for the System Partition or the Boot Volume short of
> starting
> | >> over
> | >> | >and installing again.
> | >> | >
> | >> | >You might want to read a couple of KB articles:
> | >> | >Definitions for system volume and boot volume
> | >> | >
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/314470/EN-US/
> | >> | >
> | >> | >You cannot change the system volume drive letter after Setup
> | >> | >
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;223769
> | >> | >
> | >> | >Disk Management will let us change the other drive letters, but
> not
> the
> | >> | >System Partition and, if different, the Boot Volume.
> | >> | >
> | >> | >RC
> | >> | >
> | >> | >"umwhat" <mesomewhere@someotherplace.com> wrote in message
> | >> | >news:D517F7EB-A5E2-4422-AEA2-508B77D112CB@microsoft.com...
> | >> | >> I t seems odd thWindows should install to a D: drive when I
> would
> | >> think it
> | >> | >> would default install to a C: drive. Why has it done this and
> why
> did
> | >> the
> | >> | >> installation make an extended partition and not a primary
> partition.
> | >> | >> From what I have seen I can not change the drive letters I could
> make
> | >> D:
> | >> | >> drive a Dynamic Partition but would that help make it into the
> C:
> | >> drive.
> | >> | >>
> | >> | >>
> | >> | >> --
> | >> | >> ...scribble...scribble...scribble...
> | >> | >>
> | >> | >>
> | >> | >> "Bobby Johnson" wrote:
> | >> | >>
> | >> | >>> Maybe I missed it, but what is your question?
> | >> | >>>
> | >> | >>>
> | >> | >>> umwhat wrote:
> | >> | >>> > ...partition and I did not tell it to....that is funny isn't
> | >> | >>> > it?...anyway...the harddrive is a 320GB Sata 3.0GB/sec
> harddrive
> | >> and
> | >> | >>> > has 2
> | >> | >>> > partitions, 1 @ 278GB and 1 @ 20GB with the backed up files
> left
> | >> over
> | >> | >>> > from a
> | >> | >>> > Windows XP installation and the files I used to install the
> | >> drivers
> | >> for
> | >> | >>> > 64
> | >> | >>> > Bit Professional.
> | >> | >>> > The 278GB partition is labled D: and the small partition is
> | >> labelled
> | >> | >>> > C:
> | >> | >>> > which after my mere 4 years of computing leaves me feeling
> | >> somewhat
> | >> | >>> > disappointed, mostly because I think the first partition
> should be
> | >> | >>> > labelled
> | >> | >>> > C: and the smaller partition I think should be labelled D: .
> | >> | ><SNIP>
> | >
> | >
>