What's it looking for? XP 64 *&#$@

When I boot to XP 64 I get a found new hardware message and the wizard opens.
It says it found a SI Device Pseudo SCSI Processor Device and there is
nothing SCSI in this box. Here's the system:

SATA drive 0 (Seagate) XP Pro 64
SATA drive 1 (Seagate) XP Pro
XFX 6800 GS (NVidia) single not SLi
ASUS A8N Premium
Athlon 64 dual core +4400
Audigy 2 Zs Gamer
512 x 2 Corsair memory
Antec True Power 550 watt

It does not do this in XP Pro only the 64 bit version.

Dan
Fri Mar 17 23:39:43 CST 2006

IIRC, and I may not, but Serial ATA is a SCSI device. Both my SATA HDs =
show up (hidden) under SCSI and RAID controllers in the Device Manager.=20

--=20
-Dan-


"septemberschild" <septemberschild@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in =
message news:6422D0D6-6323-4E78-80AA-C710563C1973@microsoft.com...
> When I boot to XP 64 I get a found new hardware message and the wizard =
opens.=20
> It says it found a SI Device Pseudo SCSI Processor Device and there is =

> nothing SCSI in this box. Here's the system:
>=20
> SATA drive 0 (Seagate) XP Pro 64
> SATA drive 1 (Seagate) XP Pro
> XFX 6800 GS (NVidia) single not SLi
> ASUS A8N Premium
> Athlon 64 dual core +4400
> Audigy 2 Zs Gamer
> 512 x 2 Corsair memory
> Antec True Power 550 watt
>=20
> It does not do this in XP Pro only the 64 bit version.
>

James
Sat Mar 18 10:56:09 CST 2006

SATA is not the same as SCSI but SATA devices can usually be set up in a
RAID configuration too.

Windows just groups SCSI and RAID together. Presumably because
traditionally it only made sense to build RAID arrays with SCSI drives.




"Dan Koerner" <nospam@nospam.org> wrote in message
news:%23ZgJO5kSGHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
IIRC, and I may not, but Serial ATA is a SCSI device. Both my SATA HDs show
up (hidden) under SCSI and RAID controllers in the Device Manager.

--
-Dan-


"septemberschild" <septemberschild@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:6422D0D6-6323-4E78-80AA-C710563C1973@microsoft.com...
> When I boot to XP 64 I get a found new hardware message and the wizard
> opens.
> It says it found a SI Device Pseudo SCSI Processor Device and there is
> nothing SCSI in this box. Here's the system:
>
> SATA drive 0 (Seagate) XP Pro 64
> SATA drive 1 (Seagate) XP Pro
> XFX 6800 GS (NVidia) single not SLi
> ASUS A8N Premium
> Athlon 64 dual core +4400
> Audigy 2 Zs Gamer
> 512 x 2 Corsair memory
> Antec True Power 550 watt
>
> It does not do this in XP Pro only the 64 bit version.
>

Rick
Sat Mar 18 11:16:43 CST 2006

I have noticed that SATA shows up as SCSI, no matter whether you have
them designated as plain drives or in a RAID configuration, and have
always wondered why this was done. Just curiosity.


Dan Koerner wrote:
> IIRC, and I may not, but Serial ATA is a SCSI device. Both my SATA HDs show up (hidden) under SCSI and RAID controllers in the Device Manager.
>

PaulM
Sat Mar 18 12:09:59 CST 2006

My SATA drives are not listed under SCSI, they are listed under Disk Drives.

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www.paulsxp.com/forums


"Rick" <Rick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I have noticed that SATA shows up as SCSI, no matter whether you have them
>designated as plain drives or in a RAID configuration, and have always
>wondered why this was done. Just curiosity.
>
>
> Dan Koerner wrote:
>> IIRC, and I may not, but Serial ATA is a SCSI device. Both my SATA HDs
>> show up (hidden) under SCSI and RAID controllers in the Device Manager.

John
Sat Mar 18 12:34:28 CST 2006

As are mine.


"PaulM" <Paul@paulsxp.com> wrote in message
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> My SATA drives are not listed under SCSI, they are listed under Disk
> Drives.
>
> --
> --------
> Paul
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> www.paulsxp.com
> www.paulsxp.com/forums
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>
> "Rick" <Rick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:%237INB$qSGHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>I have noticed that SATA shows up as SCSI, no matter whether you have them
>>designated as plain drives or in a RAID configuration, and have always
>>wondered why this was done. Just curiosity.
>>
>>
>> Dan Koerner wrote:
>>> IIRC, and I may not, but Serial ATA is a SCSI device. Both my SATA HDs
>>> show up (hidden) under SCSI and RAID controllers in the Device Manager.
>
>

Rick
Sat Mar 18 12:35:29 CST 2006

Excuse me; the controller. But even in Disk Drives they are listed as
"SCSI Disk Device".


PaulM wrote:
> My SATA drives are not listed under SCSI, they are listed under Disk Drives.
>

John
Sat Mar 18 12:41:41 CST 2006

mine are listed as disk drives or standard disk drives.

"Rick" <Rick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:OI4eBrrSGHA.1572@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Excuse me; the controller. But even in Disk Drives they are listed as
> "SCSI Disk Device".
>
>
> PaulM wrote:
>> My SATA drives are not listed under SCSI, they are listed under Disk
>> Drives.
>>

PaulM
Sat Mar 18 12:47:28 CST 2006

The controller is listed:
INTEL(R) 82801GR/GH SATA AHCI Controller. The drivers are listed under Disk
drives:


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"Rick" <Rick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:OI4eBrrSGHA.1572@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Excuse me; the controller. But even in Disk Drives they are listed as
> "SCSI Disk Device".
>
>
> PaulM wrote:
>> My SATA drives are not listed under SCSI, they are listed under Disk
>> Drives.
>>

Dan
Sat Mar 18 12:50:25 CST 2006

Hmmm... it must be the way the BIOS handles them...

--=20
-Dan-


"John Barnes" <jbfoofy@email.net> wrote in message =
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> mine are listed as disk drives or standard disk drives.
>=20
> "Rick" <Rick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message=20
> news:OI4eBrrSGHA.1572@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Excuse me; the controller. But even in Disk Drives they are listed =
as=20
>> "SCSI Disk Device".
>>
>>
>> PaulM wrote:
>>> My SATA drives are not listed under SCSI, they are listed under Disk =

>>> Drives.
>>>=20
>=20
>

Rick
Sat Mar 18 12:54:45 CST 2006

Well, I currently have a total of eight computers set up and everyone of
them has "SCSI Disk Service" after the model of the SATA drive under
"Disk Drives."


John Barnes wrote:
> mine are listed as disk drives or standard disk drives.
>
> "Rick" <Rick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:OI4eBrrSGHA.1572@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Excuse me; the controller. But even in Disk Drives they are listed as
>> "SCSI Disk Device".
>>
>>
>> PaulM wrote:
>>> My SATA drives are not listed under SCSI, they are listed under Disk
>>> Drives.
>>>
>
>

Larry
Sat Mar 18 15:22:16 CST 2006

Does your motherboard have both an Intel & a Silicon Image(SI) SATA Raid
controller chip? The SI Device Pseudo SCSI Processor Device is part of the
SI SoftRaid5 setup.

My Intel motherboard has both the Intel & the SI chips to handle up to 8
SATA drives. I have the pseudo device in my XPPro(x32) when I enable the SI
Raid Chip.

Perhaps you have it disabled in your XP(x32) setup and it is automatically
recognized(enabled) in the x64 setup.

Larry

"septemberschild" <septemberschild@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:6422D0D6-6323-4E78-80AA-C710563C1973@microsoft.com...
> When I boot to XP 64 I get a found new hardware message and the wizard
> opens.
> It says it found a SI Device Pseudo SCSI Processor Device and there is
> nothing SCSI in this box. Here's the system:
>
> SATA drive 0 (Seagate) XP Pro 64
> SATA drive 1 (Seagate) XP Pro
> XFX 6800 GS (NVidia) single not SLi
> ASUS A8N Premium
> Athlon 64 dual core +4400
> Audigy 2 Zs Gamer
> 512 x 2 Corsair memory
> Antec True Power 550 watt
>
> It does not do this in XP Pro only the 64 bit version.
>

Bruce
Sat Mar 18 17:41:00 CST 2006

Seems to depend on the actual hardware/firmware implementation.

The motherboard I have has both and NVidia and a Promise SATA controller.
The NVidia one presents itself as an IDE controller, while the Promise one
presents itself as a SCSI controller. This is in both RAID and non_RAID
configuration.

--
Bruce Sanderson MVP Printing
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders

It is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.



"septemberschild" <septemberschild@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:6422D0D6-6323-4E78-80AA-C710563C1973@microsoft.com...
> When I boot to XP 64 I get a found new hardware message and the wizard
> opens.
> It says it found a SI Device Pseudo SCSI Processor Device and there is
> nothing SCSI in this box. Here's the system:
>
> SATA drive 0 (Seagate) XP Pro 64
> SATA drive 1 (Seagate) XP Pro
> XFX 6800 GS (NVidia) single not SLi
> ASUS A8N Premium
> Athlon 64 dual core +4400
> Audigy 2 Zs Gamer
> 512 x 2 Corsair memory
> Antec True Power 550 watt
>
> It does not do this in XP Pro only the 64 bit version.
>

Tony
Sun Mar 19 18:32:57 CST 2006

I think everybody is more or less right, so far as I can make out, (not
being familiar with all current products) it would seem that 'some'
manufacturers are taking the short-cut and implementing SATA support as
coupled with a RAID chip, even if no RAID has been configured. RAID connects
with the OS via the SCSI subsystem so, some will see it listed this way and
others not.


Tony. . .


"septemberschild" <septemberschild@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:6422D0D6-6323-4E78-80AA-C710563C1973@microsoft.com...
> When I boot to XP 64 I get a found new hardware message and the wizard
> opens.
> It says it found a SI Device Pseudo SCSI Processor Device and there is
> nothing SCSI in this box. Here's the system:
>
> SATA drive 0 (Seagate) XP Pro 64
> SATA drive 1 (Seagate) XP Pro
> XFX 6800 GS (NVidia) single not SLi
> ASUS A8N Premium
> Athlon 64 dual core +4400
> Audigy 2 Zs Gamer
> 512 x 2 Corsair memory
> Antec True Power 550 watt
>
> It does not do this in XP Pro only the 64 bit version.
>

septemberschild
Wed Mar 22 23:40:27 CST 2006

Okay I see I stirred up some good info. So with that said, in my BIOS
settings I have the the RAID disabled. This particular mobo has both IDE and
SATA RAID on-board. It has for headers for SATA RAID and four headers for
SATA and two IDE headers. In Hardware Manager under the 64 bit version this
PSEUDO DEVICE is shown with the infamous yellow dot and an exclamation point
along with my web cam, printer and scanner all of which I use in the 32 bit
version. Below this list of Other Devices are Ports, Processors then SCSI and
Raid Conrollers which list the Silicon Image SiL 3114 SoftRaid 5 Controller
all of which are displayed correctly. So how do I eliminate it? I have
deleted from the system upon which it re-discovers it on a reboot. Maybe I
should contact Silicon Imageto seek a remedy?

"septemberschild" wrote:

> When I boot to XP 64 I get a found new hardware message and the wizard opens.
> It says it found a SI Device Pseudo SCSI Processor Device and there is
> nothing SCSI in this box. Here's the system:
>
> SATA drive 0 (Seagate) XP Pro 64
> SATA drive 1 (Seagate) XP Pro
> XFX 6800 GS (NVidia) single not SLi
> ASUS A8N Premium
> Athlon 64 dual core +4400
> Audigy 2 Zs Gamer
> 512 x 2 Corsair memory
> Antec True Power 550 watt
>
> It does not do this in XP Pro only the 64 bit version.
>

Dan
Thu Mar 23 16:59:15 CST 2006

Since you are not using RAID, turn off Silicone Image Raid in the BIOS. =


--=20
-Dan-


"septemberschild" <septemberschild@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in =
message news:C259A9C5-3C65-4223-A2CC-E9A814A248B8@microsoft.com...
> Okay I see I stirred up some good info. So with that said, in my BIOS=20
> settings I have the the RAID disabled. This particular mobo has both =
IDE and=20
> SATA RAID on-board. It has for headers for SATA RAID and four headers =
for=20
> SATA and two IDE headers. In Hardware Manager under the 64 bit version =
this=20
> PSEUDO DEVICE is shown with the infamous yellow dot and an exclamation =
point=20
> along with my web cam, printer and scanner all of which I use in the =
32 bit=20
> version. Below this list of Other Devices are Ports, Processors then =
SCSI and=20
> Raid Conrollers which list the Silicon Image SiL 3114 SoftRaid 5 =
Controller=20
> all of which are displayed correctly. So how do I eliminate it? I have =

> deleted from the system upon which it re-discovers it on a reboot. =
Maybe I=20
> should contact Silicon Imageto seek a remedy?
>=20
> "septemberschild" wrote:
>=20
>> When I boot to XP 64 I get a found new hardware message and the =
wizard opens.=20
>> It says it found a SI Device Pseudo SCSI Processor Device and there =
is=20
>> nothing SCSI in this box. Here's the system:
>>=20
>> SATA drive 0 (Seagate) XP Pro 64
>> SATA drive 1 (Seagate) XP Pro
>> XFX 6800 GS (NVidia) single not SLi
>> ASUS A8N Premium
>> Athlon 64 dual core +4400
>> Audigy 2 Zs Gamer
>> 512 x 2 Corsair memory
>> Antec True Power 550 watt
>>=20
>> It does not do this in XP Pro only the 64 bit version.
>>

Tony
Fri Mar 24 04:25:28 CST 2006

Any exclamation marked devices in device manager can safely be
'right-clicked' and un-installed or disabled - that is, if you are shure
nothing is attached.

Tony. . .


"septemberschild" <septemberschild@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:C259A9C5-3C65-4223-A2CC-E9A814A248B8@microsoft.com...
> Okay I see I stirred up some good info. So with that said, in my BIOS
> settings I have the the RAID disabled. This particular mobo has both IDE
> and
> SATA RAID on-board. It has for headers for SATA RAID and four headers for
> SATA and two IDE headers. In Hardware Manager under the 64 bit version
> this
> PSEUDO DEVICE is shown with the infamous yellow dot and an exclamation
> point
> along with my web cam, printer and scanner all of which I use in the 32
> bit
> version. Below this list of Other Devices are Ports, Processors then SCSI
> and
> Raid Conrollers which list the Silicon Image SiL 3114 SoftRaid 5
> Controller
> all of which are displayed correctly. So how do I eliminate it? I have
> deleted from the system upon which it re-discovers it on a reboot. Maybe I
> should contact Silicon Imageto seek a remedy?
>
> "septemberschild" wrote:
>
>> When I boot to XP 64 I get a found new hardware message and the wizard
>> opens.
>> It says it found a SI Device Pseudo SCSI Processor Device and there is
>> nothing SCSI in this box. Here's the system:
>>
>> SATA drive 0 (Seagate) XP Pro 64
>> SATA drive 1 (Seagate) XP Pro
>> XFX 6800 GS (NVidia) single not SLi
>> ASUS A8N Premium
>> Athlon 64 dual core +4400
>> Audigy 2 Zs Gamer
>> 512 x 2 Corsair memory
>> Antec True Power 550 watt
>>
>> It does not do this in XP Pro only the 64 bit version.
>>

septemberschild
Thu Apr 20 05:30:02 CDT 2006

I guess I wasn't as clear as I thought all of the RAID applications are
turned off in the BIOS. I read in another post that it may be looking for the
ACPI drivers located in :\Windows\System32\Drivers\(two different files were
listed) I have not tried this and it is probably the only thing I haven't
tried short of taking it out back and shooting it. Will drivers for SBS 2003
work? They are after all 64 bit which is why I have seen some servers with
out of range displays because the Network Admin hasn't downloaded the correct
video drivers for it. I have the latest BIOS update from ASUS and the newest
driver from NVidia which is almost a year old for the 64 bit version and this
includes drivers for the chipset also. How about drivers for Vista? With this
move taking place should not all the biggies start to write 64 bit drivers?

"Dan Koerner" wrote:

> Since you are not using RAID, turn off Silicone Image Raid in the BIOS.
>
> --
> -Dan-
>
>
> "septemberschild" <septemberschild@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:C259A9C5-3C65-4223-A2CC-E9A814A248B8@microsoft.com...
> > Okay I see I stirred up some good info. So with that said, in my BIOS
> > settings I have the the RAID disabled. This particular mobo has both IDE and
> > SATA RAID on-board. It has for headers for SATA RAID and four headers for
> > SATA and two IDE headers. In Hardware Manager under the 64 bit version this
> > PSEUDO DEVICE is shown with the infamous yellow dot and an exclamation point
> > along with my web cam, printer and scanner all of which I use in the 32 bit
> > version. Below this list of Other Devices are Ports, Processors then SCSI and
> > Raid Conrollers which list the Silicon Image SiL 3114 SoftRaid 5 Controller
> > all of which are displayed correctly. So how do I eliminate it? I have
> > deleted from the system upon which it re-discovers it on a reboot. Maybe I
> > should contact Silicon Imageto seek a remedy?
> >
> > "septemberschild" wrote:
> >
> >> When I boot to XP 64 I get a found new hardware message and the wizard opens.
> >> It says it found a SI Device Pseudo SCSI Processor Device and there is
> >> nothing SCSI in this box. Here's the system:
> >>
> >> SATA drive 0 (Seagate) XP Pro 64
> >> SATA drive 1 (Seagate) XP Pro
> >> XFX 6800 GS (NVidia) single not SLi
> >> ASUS A8N Premium
> >> Athlon 64 dual core +4400
> >> Audigy 2 Zs Gamer
> >> 512 x 2 Corsair memory
> >> Antec True Power 550 watt
> >>
> >> It does not do this in XP Pro only the 64 bit version.
> >>
> .
>