Vista Defrag

Hey gang,

Have been messing around with Vista 64 bit Ultimate since getting installed
yesterday to dual boot with XP Pro. Parts of it are pretty neat, parts will
take me some getting used to.

I use Executive Software Diskeeper, in my XP Pro install. I can use it to
defrage the drive my Vista install is on as well.

I am curious about the Vista built in defragger, when I go into " computer",
and right click a hard drive, click on tools, then defrag, it states it is
defragging " disks " , ie plural.

Is it defragging just the drive I selected, or is it defragging all my
partitions?


Thanks,


Don

Maratonmannen
Sun Feb 24 08:07:01 PST 2008

It´s defraging all your drives/partitions.
To defrag C, type in a command prompt: defrag C:

--
Asus P5WDG2 WS Pro (i975X Express)
Coreâ?¢ 2 Extreme X6800
RAPTOR 2x150 GB RAID 0
4GB DDR2 800MHz
GeForce 8800GTX
Enermax 1000W 75A@+12V
LAN 100/100
XP x64 dualboot Vista x64 SP1 (slipstreamed)


"Don" wrote:

> Hey gang,
>
> Have been messing around with Vista 64 bit Ultimate since getting installed
> yesterday to dual boot with XP Pro. Parts of it are pretty neat, parts will
> take me some getting used to.
>
> I use Executive Software Diskeeper, in my XP Pro install. I can use it to
> defrage the drive my Vista install is on as well.
>
> I am curious about the Vista built in defragger, when I go into " computer",
> and right click a hard drive, click on tools, then defrag, it states it is
> defragging " disks " , ie plural.
>
> Is it defragging just the drive I selected, or is it defragging all my
> partitions?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Don
>
>

Don
Sun Feb 24 08:10:01 PST 2008

Good deal, many thanks for the info !



--
Don



"Maratonmannen" <Maratonmannen@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7E86877D-6AF2-48B2-BA6C-23F12A688327@microsoft.com...
> It´s defraging all your drives/partitions.
> To defrag C, type in a command prompt: defrag C:
>
> --
> Asus P5WDG2 WS Pro (i975X Express)
> Coreâ?¢ 2 Extreme X6800
> RAPTOR 2x150 GB RAID 0
> 4GB DDR2 800MHz
> GeForce 8800GTX
> Enermax 1000W 75A@+12V
> LAN 100/100
> XP x64 dualboot Vista x64 SP1 (slipstreamed)
>
>
> "Don" wrote:
>
>> Hey gang,
>>
>> Have been messing around with Vista 64 bit Ultimate since getting
>> installed
>> yesterday to dual boot with XP Pro. Parts of it are pretty neat, parts
>> will
>> take me some getting used to.
>>
>> I use Executive Software Diskeeper, in my XP Pro install. I can use it to
>> defrage the drive my Vista install is on as well.
>>
>> I am curious about the Vista built in defragger, when I go into "
>> computer",
>> and right click a hard drive, click on tools, then defrag, it states it
>> is
>> defragging " disks " , ie plural.
>>
>> Is it defragging just the drive I selected, or is it defragging all my
>> partitions?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> Don
>>
>>

xiowan
Mon Feb 25 10:46:01 PST 2008

Hi"Maratonmannen":
I have several hard drives with a large number of saved recorded tv
programs which are recorded on my G: and then moved to other drives. On my
MCE2005 pc this results in 5 hard drives almost completely full and not
needing any defragmenting. On my Vista PC, I record movies on G: and move
them to my stosrage drives and they don't need to be defragmented ever. I
tried your suggestion on my Vista pc and when the "elevated" command prompt
window came up it said "system32". I closed the window in confusion because
I am running Vista x64 and don't understand why the command prompt came up as
"system32"? Is the command prompt window correct or should it have said
64-bit? I would love to be able to de-frag only the recording drive on a
regular basis because it gets very fragmented from frequent recordings,
deletions and transfers to other drives but hate Vista automatically
defragmenting over 2 TBs of stored content that doesn't need it. Should I go
ahead and use the "system32" command prompt that comes up automatically when
I enter "command prompt" in the Vista search box or is there a different
command prompt available for my x64 O.S.?

"Maratonmannen" wrote:

> It´s defraging all your drives/partitions.
> To defrag C, type in a command prompt: defrag C:
>
> --
> Asus P5WDG2 WS Pro (i975X Express)
> Coreâ?¢ 2 Extreme X6800
> RAPTOR 2x150 GB RAID 0
> 4GB DDR2 800MHz
> GeForce 8800GTX
> Enermax 1000W 75A@+12V
> LAN 100/100
> XP x64 dualboot Vista x64 SP1 (slipstreamed)
>
>
> "Don" wrote:
>
> > Hey gang,
> >
> > Have been messing around with Vista 64 bit Ultimate since getting installed
> > yesterday to dual boot with XP Pro. Parts of it are pretty neat, parts will
> > take me some getting used to.
> >
> > I use Executive Software Diskeeper, in my XP Pro install. I can use it to
> > defrage the drive my Vista install is on as well.
> >
> > I am curious about the Vista built in defragger, when I go into " computer",
> > and right click a hard drive, click on tools, then defrag, it states it is
> > defragging " disks " , ie plural.
> >
> > Is it defragging just the drive I selected, or is it defragging all my
> > partitions?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > Don
> >
> >

xiowan
Mon Feb 25 10:55:03 PST 2008

Hi again "Maratonmannen":
Just for clarification this is what the Vista command prompt window says:

"Administrative Command Prompt"

"C:\Windows\system32>"

xiowan.........in tucson



"Maratonmannen" wrote:

> It´s defraging all your drives/partitions.
> To defrag C, type in a command prompt: defrag C:
>
> --
> Asus P5WDG2 WS Pro (i975X Express)
> Coreâ?¢ 2 Extreme X6800
> RAPTOR 2x150 GB RAID 0
> 4GB DDR2 800MHz
> GeForce 8800GTX
> Enermax 1000W 75A@+12V
> LAN 100/100
> XP x64 dualboot Vista x64 SP1 (slipstreamed)
>
>
> "Don" wrote:
>
> > Hey gang,
> >
> > Have been messing around with Vista 64 bit Ultimate since getting installed
> > yesterday to dual boot with XP Pro. Parts of it are pretty neat, parts will
> > take me some getting used to.
> >
> > I use Executive Software Diskeeper, in my XP Pro install. I can use it to
> > defrage the drive my Vista install is on as well.
> >
> > I am curious about the Vista built in defragger, when I go into " computer",
> > and right click a hard drive, click on tools, then defrag, it states it is
> > defragging " disks " , ie plural.
> >
> > Is it defragging just the drive I selected, or is it defragging all my
> > partitions?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > Don
> >
> >

DP
Mon Feb 25 12:21:00 PST 2008


"Maratonmannen" <Maratonmannen@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7E86877D-6AF2-48B2-BA6C-23F12A688327@microsoft.com...
> It´s defraging all your drives/partitions.
> To defrag C, type in a command prompt: defrag C:
>
>

Does he have to choose the "run as administrator" option first? That's
always how I do it, though I've forgotten why.

Don
Mon Feb 25 12:27:02 PST 2008

"DP" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Maratonmannen" <Maratonmannen@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7E86877D-6AF2-48B2-BA6C-23F12A688327@microsoft.com...
>> It´s defraging all your drives/partitions.
>> To defrag C, type in a command prompt: defrag C:
>>
>>
>
> Does he have to choose the "run as administrator" option first? That's
> always how I do it, though I've forgotten why.
>



Yes, I found out the hard way, first time I tried to do it and I got an
error that had to run as administrator or something like that, I did a
search in help and found how I needed to right click it and select to run as
administrator, once I did that it defragged just my C partition just fine.



--
Don

R
Mon Feb 25 14:11:19 PST 2008

Hi, Don.

Open an Administrator:Command Prompt. Any command or application launched
in this window will "run elevated".

There are several ways to open this window; here's one way: Click Start |
All Programs | Accessories, right-click Command Prompt, then click Run as
Administrator. You'll need the Administrator's password to get past here.

The window will open, by default, in C:\Windows\system32. That's the folder
where cmd.exe resides (along with most of the other operating system files).
Don't worry about the "32" in "system32"; that's a holdover from the
original WinXP (or was it in Win95?). That is still the name of the folder
in Vista x64.

While you are here, type Set and press Enter. You should see a list of your
Environment Variables, including "SystemRoot=C:\Windows" and many others.
This Set command goes back several generations of the operating system; that
Prompt command goes back to MS-DOS! Type Help and press Enter to get a list
of dozens of commands that can be used in this window, along with a one-line
description of what each one does. Pick one and type the command followed
by /? to see a mini-help file showing the parameters that can be used with
that command, like Dir /?. Of course, any command that can do a lot of good
can also do a lot of damage if used improperly, so handle with care.

Type dir dfrg* to see a list of Defrag executable files. If you type
DfrgNtfs, you will get a message that "Command line operation of Disk
Defragmenter is not supported." But if you type "Defrag C:", it will start
defragging C: immediately, since you've launched the command from the
Administrator CP window.

Or, as you said, you can run the built-in defragger from the GUI:
Computer | right-click on Drive C: (for example) | Properties | Tools |
Defragmentation | Defragment Now...; you'll need the password to pass this
point.

I've never used Diskeeper.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

"Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:#hUPt2vdIHA.4696@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Hey gang,
>
> Have been messing around with Vista 64 bit Ultimate since getting
> installed yesterday to dual boot with XP Pro. Parts of it are pretty neat,
> parts will take me some getting used to.
>
> I use Executive Software Diskeeper, in my XP Pro install. I can use it to
> defrage the drive my Vista install is on as well.
>
> I am curious about the Vista built in defragger, when I go into "
> computer", and right click a hard drive, click on tools, then defrag, it
> states it is defragging " disks " , ie plural.
>
> Is it defragging just the drive I selected, or is it defragging all my
> partitions?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Don

Don
Mon Feb 25 14:18:30 PST 2008

Hi R.C.,

Thanks for the great info, very helpful, I appreciate it!


--
Don






"R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message
news:7549E7D1-52AA-42C7-822D-40D06AA35024@microsoft.com...
> Hi, Don.
>
> Open an Administrator:Command Prompt. Any command or application launched
> in this window will "run elevated".
>
> There are several ways to open this window; here's one way: Click Start |
> All Programs | Accessories, right-click Command Prompt, then click Run as
> Administrator. You'll need the Administrator's password to get past here.
>
> The window will open, by default, in C:\Windows\system32. That's the
> folder where cmd.exe resides (along with most of the other operating
> system files). Don't worry about the "32" in "system32"; that's a holdover
> from the original WinXP (or was it in Win95?). That is still the name of
> the folder in Vista x64.
>
> While you are here, type Set and press Enter. You should see a list of
> your Environment Variables, including "SystemRoot=C:\Windows" and many
> others. This Set command goes back several generations of the operating
> system; that Prompt command goes back to MS-DOS! Type Help and press
> Enter to get a list of dozens of commands that can be used in this window,
> along with a one-line description of what each one does. Pick one and
> type the command followed by /? to see a mini-help file showing the
> parameters that can be used with that command, like Dir /?. Of course,
> any command that can do a lot of good can also do a lot of damage if used
> improperly, so handle with care.
>
> Type dir dfrg* to see a list of Defrag executable files. If you type
> DfrgNtfs, you will get a message that "Command line operation of Disk
> Defragmenter is not supported." But if you type "Defrag C:", it will
> start defragging C: immediately, since you've launched the command from
> the Administrator CP window.
>
> Or, as you said, you can run the built-in defragger from the GUI:
> Computer | right-click on Drive C: (for example) | Properties | Tools |
> Defragmentation | Defragment Now...; you'll need the password to pass this
> point.
>
> I've never used Diskeeper.
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> rc@grandecom.net
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)
>
> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:#hUPt2vdIHA.4696@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Hey gang,
>>
>> Have been messing around with Vista 64 bit Ultimate since getting
>> installed yesterday to dual boot with XP Pro. Parts of it are pretty
>> neat, parts will take me some getting used to.
>>
>> I use Executive Software Diskeeper, in my XP Pro install. I can use it to
>> defrage the drive my Vista install is on as well.
>>
>> I am curious about the Vista built in defragger, when I go into "
>> computer", and right click a hard drive, click on tools, then defrag, it
>> states it is defragging " disks " , ie plural.
>>
>> Is it defragging just the drive I selected, or is it defragging all my
>> partitions?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> Don
>

xiowan
Mon Feb 25 14:36:10 PST 2008

Hello R.C. White:
I also thank you for the useful reply. I'm going disable Vista's
automatic defragmenting and do it thru the command prompt. I hate to have
Vista messing with drives that don't need any attention and from now on will
just de-frag my C: drive and recording drive G: Your tip will save me the
cost of buying a 3rd party program for disk defragmenting and also a lot of
time learning how to use it!

xiowan........in tucson

"R. C. White" wrote:

> Hi, Don.
>
> Open an Administrator:Command Prompt. Any command or application launched
> in this window will "run elevated".
>
> There are several ways to open this window; here's one way: Click Start |
> All Programs | Accessories, right-click Command Prompt, then click Run as
> Administrator. You'll need the Administrator's password to get past here.
>
> The window will open, by default, in C:\Windows\system32. That's the folder
> where cmd.exe resides (along with most of the other operating system files).
> Don't worry about the "32" in "system32"; that's a holdover from the
> original WinXP (or was it in Win95?). That is still the name of the folder
> in Vista x64.
>
> While you are here, type Set and press Enter. You should see a list of your
> Environment Variables, including "SystemRoot=C:\Windows" and many others.
> This Set command goes back several generations of the operating system; that
> Prompt command goes back to MS-DOS! Type Help and press Enter to get a list
> of dozens of commands that can be used in this window, along with a one-line
> description of what each one does. Pick one and type the command followed
> by /? to see a mini-help file showing the parameters that can be used with
> that command, like Dir /?. Of course, any command that can do a lot of good
> can also do a lot of damage if used improperly, so handle with care.
>
> Type dir dfrg* to see a list of Defrag executable files. If you type
> DfrgNtfs, you will get a message that "Command line operation of Disk
> Defragmenter is not supported." But if you type "Defrag C:", it will start
> defragging C: immediately, since you've launched the command from the
> Administrator CP window.
>
> Or, as you said, you can run the built-in defragger from the GUI:
> Computer | right-click on Drive C: (for example) | Properties | Tools |
> Defragmentation | Defragment Now...; you'll need the password to pass this
> point.
>
> I've never used Diskeeper.
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> rc@grandecom.net
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)
>
> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:#hUPt2vdIHA.4696@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > Hey gang,
> >
> > Have been messing around with Vista 64 bit Ultimate since getting
> > installed yesterday to dual boot with XP Pro. Parts of it are pretty neat,
> > parts will take me some getting used to.
> >
> > I use Executive Software Diskeeper, in my XP Pro install. I can use it to
> > defrage the drive my Vista install is on as well.
> >
> > I am curious about the Vista built in defragger, when I go into "
> > computer", and right click a hard drive, click on tools, then defrag, it
> > states it is defragging " disks " , ie plural.
> >
> > Is it defragging just the drive I selected, or is it defragging all my
> > partitions?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > Don
>

Tony
Mon Feb 25 15:54:30 PST 2008

On the other hand - Defrag wouldn't use up many milliseconds to establish
that it didn't have to do anything! It's certainly not going to go through
the complete procedure to no avail!

But I understand you, the terminal window definitely has it's own
fashination!


Tony. . .



"xiowan" <xiowan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:ABCC698E-D18C-4691-910D-4F984527A890@microsoft.com...
> Hello R.C. White:
> I also thank you for the useful reply. I'm going disable Vista's
> automatic defragmenting and do it thru the command prompt. I hate to have
> Vista messing with drives that don't need any attention and from now on
> will
> just de-frag my C: drive and recording drive G: Your tip will save me the
> cost of buying a 3rd party program for disk defragmenting and also a lot
> of
> time learning how to use it!
>
> xiowan........in tucson
>
> "R. C. White" wrote:
>
>> Hi, Don.
>>
>> Open an Administrator:Command Prompt. Any command or application
>> launched
>> in this window will "run elevated".
>>
>> There are several ways to open this window; here's one way: Click Start
>> |
>> All Programs | Accessories, right-click Command Prompt, then click Run as
>> Administrator. You'll need the Administrator's password to get past
>> here.
>>
>> The window will open, by default, in C:\Windows\system32. That's the
>> folder
>> where cmd.exe resides (along with most of the other operating system
>> files).
>> Don't worry about the "32" in "system32"; that's a holdover from the
>> original WinXP (or was it in Win95?). That is still the name of the
>> folder
>> in Vista x64.
>>
>> While you are here, type Set and press Enter. You should see a list of
>> your
>> Environment Variables, including "SystemRoot=C:\Windows" and many others.
>> This Set command goes back several generations of the operating system;
>> that
>> Prompt command goes back to MS-DOS! Type Help and press Enter to get a
>> list
>> of dozens of commands that can be used in this window, along with a
>> one-line
>> description of what each one does. Pick one and type the command
>> followed
>> by /? to see a mini-help file showing the parameters that can be used
>> with
>> that command, like Dir /?. Of course, any command that can do a lot of
>> good
>> can also do a lot of damage if used improperly, so handle with care.
>>
>> Type dir dfrg* to see a list of Defrag executable files. If you type
>> DfrgNtfs, you will get a message that "Command line operation of Disk
>> Defragmenter is not supported." But if you type "Defrag C:", it will
>> start
>> defragging C: immediately, since you've launched the command from the
>> Administrator CP window.
>>
>> Or, as you said, you can run the built-in defragger from the GUI:
>> Computer | right-click on Drive C: (for example) | Properties | Tools |
>> Defragmentation | Defragment Now...; you'll need the password to pass
>> this
>> point.
>>
>> I've never used Diskeeper.
>>
>> RC
>> --
>> R. C. White, CPA
>> San Marcos, TX
>> rc@grandecom.net
>> Microsoft Windows MVP
>> (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)
>>
>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:#hUPt2vdIHA.4696@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> > Hey gang,
>> >
>> > Have been messing around with Vista 64 bit Ultimate since getting
>> > installed yesterday to dual boot with XP Pro. Parts of it are pretty
>> > neat,
>> > parts will take me some getting used to.
>> >
>> > I use Executive Software Diskeeper, in my XP Pro install. I can use it
>> > to
>> > defrage the drive my Vista install is on as well.
>> >
>> > I am curious about the Vista built in defragger, when I go into "
>> > computer", and right click a hard drive, click on tools, then defrag,
>> > it
>> > states it is defragging " disks " , ie plural.
>> >
>> > Is it defragging just the drive I selected, or is it defragging all my
>> > partitions?
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> >
>> > Don
>>