Colin
Sat Feb 23 19:17:55 PST 2008
You're welcome.
"Phosphonothioic" <Phosphonothioic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:7D122F66-ADEC-49D9-A625-FF430E47E4D8@microsoft.com...
> And, at last, after much time invested, I understand. Gonna start looking
> for deals on the upgrade disk set now. Thanks a bunch to all involved!
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>
>> Boot with the 64bit dvd. The dvd's are clearly marked "32 bit Software"
>> and
>> "64 bit Software". A retail Ultimate upgrade edition box contains both
>> dvd's. It's a perk of going with Ultimate that you don't have to send
>> away
>> for the x64 dvd. But even if you did have to order the x64 dvd it comes
>> in
>> less than a week.
>>
>> "Phosphonothioic" <Phosphonothioic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message news:F2E4B7F2-8CF5-451C-A236-E8F7ED6EB129@microsoft.com...
>> > So, I buy the Ultimate upgrade edition (not the anytime upgrade)...
>> >
>> > What would I have to do from there to gain access to the 64-bit
>> > material?
>> >
>> > Sorry for being so dense on all of this, I just want to be absolutely
>> > sure
>> > I'm buying the right things so I don't end up wasting money.
>> >
>> > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Retail Ultimate comes with two dvd's. One is x86 and one is x64. For
>> >> all
>> >> other editions you get the x86 dvd and instructions for ordering the
>> >> x64
>> >> dvd
>> >> at shipping and handling cost for your region.
>> >>
>> >> All, and I mean all, retail Vista dvd's are the same. All x86 retail
>> >> dvd's
>> >> are the same and all x64 dvd's are the same. There are no upgrade
>> >> dvd's
>> >> for
>> >> Vista like there are upgrade cd's with XP. The Vista product key
>> >> alone
>> >> makes the difference as to whether you have an upgrade edition or
>> >> full.
>> >>
>> >> My recommendation is to buy the Vista Ultimate upgrade edition.
>> >> Personally
>> >> I don't like the Anytime Upgrade version because its license is only
>> >> tranferable to one new machine. That's a one-time deal. I don't care
>> >> for
>> >> that limitation. The retail version is not limited as to the number
>> >> of
>> >> times it can be transferred to a new machine.
>> >>
>> >> "Phosphonothioic" <Phosphonothioic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> message news:938412C2-D8C4-4D35-8688-CF26F0AE6281@microsoft.com...
>> >> > If I'm not mistaken, doesn't Ultimate DVDs come with both the x86
>> >> > and
>> >> > x64
>> >> > editions on the disk? You just only can use the version you have a
>> >> > license
>> >> > for. If that's the case, then I should be able to just buy the Home
>> >> > Premium
>> >> > to Ultimate upgrade DVD ($159 I think) .
>> >> >
>> >> > Or do you have to have the upgrade license and then purchase the x64
>> >> > media
>> >> > just like like you would if you were going from HP x86 to x64 (an
>> >> > addition
>> >> > ~$10)?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks!
>> >> >
>> >> > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> You have to buy the Ultimate license and use it with an x64 dvd.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It is the product key which determines which edition gets installed
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> dvd you use determines whether it is 32bit or 64bit.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If you have an upgrade pk for Vista Ultimate and the 64bit dvd you
>> >> >> can
>> >> >> migrate from Vista Home Premium x86 to Vista Ultimate x64 at just
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> cost
>> >> >> of the Vista Ultimate upgrade edition price.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You will boot with the x64 dvd, enter the upgrade edition product
>> >> >> key
>> >> >> (which
>> >> >> will tell the installer to look over the computer for another copy
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> Windows and then install Ultimate), and then choose Custom Install
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> complete the installation. In this case, Vista Setup will allow
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> do a
>> >> >> clean install if you prefer. The Disk Tools icon will be available
>> >> >> since
>> >> >> you booted with the dvd. It does NOT work the same way as it does
>> >> >> when
>> >> >> using the 32bit dvd. You will NOT be instructed to run Setup from
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> existing Windows desktop.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Phosphonothioic" <Phosphonothioic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> message news:012EF87E-0B42-4FD5-BE02-611B1B98E3D8@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > So, there is no means of moving from 32-bit Home Premium to
>> >> >> > 64-bit
>> >> >> > Ultimate
>> >> >> > without buying a full retail version of Ultimate.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > That's really my goal here, I'd like to move up to 64-bit
>> >> >> > Ultimate.
>> >> >> > I
>> >> >> > just
>> >> >> > figured that, seeing as I own a retail copy of Home Premium, I
>> >> >> > could
>> >> >> > buy a
>> >> >> > DVD that would allow me to do a clean install of 64-bit Ultimate
>> >> >> > for
>> >> >> > less
>> >> >> > than it would cost me to buy a full retail version.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > If I'm reading your comments correctly, then you're saying the
>> >> >> > "upgrade"
>> >> >> > DVDs are only for people who are making a switch from XP/2000 to
>> >> >> > Vista.
>> >> >> > And
>> >> >> > the people who already own a version of Vista are left out in the
>> >> >> > cold?
>> >> >> > Seems peculiar to me, or it's quite possible that I'm just being
>> >> >> > really
>> >> >> > dense
>> >> >> > at the moment.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Mark" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> See the instructions in my first response.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> If you go with an upgrade disk, you will have to install WinXP
>> >> >> >> Pro
>> >> >> >> or
>> >> >> >> 2000
>> >> >> >> to "upgrade", then insert the the 64-bit dvid and do a custom
>> >> >> >> install.
>> >> >> >> This is a clean install. Use the product key you get with the
>> >> >> >> upgrade
>> >> >> >> disk.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Phosphonothioic" <Phosphonothioic@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> >> >> wrote
>> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> message
>> >> >> >> news:F0B51BD9-2C13-41DD-B088-342C02AB0783@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >> > On a side-note:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > If I buy the Home Premium to Ultimate upgrade, can I do a
>> >> >> >> > clean
>> >> >> >> > install
>> >> >> >> > from
>> >> >> >> > the upgrade DVD of Ultimate 64-bit?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>>