I'm new to 64-bit WinXP, and while I've managed to figure out a lot of
stuff, I can't figure out this one. I've installed Office Pro 2003
(*everything* but Outlook) and it *seems* to be working OK, though I haven't
really done much with it. Spellchecker does work in Office apps, but not in
OE. I've already tried changing Shared Tools\SharedFilesDir from *\Program
Files\* to *\Program Files (x86)\* but that didn't help, and the KB article
that suggests a couple of DLLs might be missing seems inapplicable, since
Office 2003 uses a different set.

I've never had this problem in many other XP or earlier versions of Windows
with Office 2003 installed. I've repaired and reinstalled Office with no
change, but haven't tried anything to "repair" or reinstall OE.

Any ideas? Do I need to install Outlook 2003 or some component thereof? I'd
*really* rather not.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

Re: Spellchecker in OE doesn't work in XP 64-bit by Gary

Gary
Sun Sep 03 15:43:46 CDT 2006

Oh boy! Thanks, Pa! guess I'm gonna have to continue manual checking. It's
not that I can't spell, it's just that I have really bad typing habitsd
(sic), made even worse by a very sensitive new keyboard. Fortunately, this
really isn't my machine, it's the wife's. (Now that I think about it,
though, maybe that's not so fortunate. She's the kind that doesn't care why
something doesn't work, she just wants it FIXED!!!)

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OLb0Ui5zGHA.720@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Hi, GAry!
>
> <QP>
> Spell checking is not supported in the 64-bit version of Outlook Express.
> </QP>
> Source:
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/64bit/cifx64.mspx#EXE
>
> Download the whole shebang:
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=21d930dd-8160-4e43-95d2-f5c3a9037e68
>
> cf.
> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress/browse_thread/thread/f64fb603d965368f/0a7eeb410203be77
> --
> ~Robear
>
>
> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>> I'm new to 64-bit WinXP, and while I've managed to figure out a lot of
>> stuff, I can't figure out this one. I've installed Office Pro 2003
>> (*everything* but Outlook) and it *seems* to be working OK, though I
>> haven't
>> really done much with it. Spellchecker does work in Office apps, but not
>> in
>> OE. I've already tried changing Shared Tools\SharedFilesDir from
>> *\Program
>> Files\* to *\Program Files (x86)\* but that didn't help, and the KB
>> article
>> that suggests a couple of DLLs might be missing seems inapplicable, since
>> Office 2003 uses a different set.
>>
>> I've never had this problem in many other XP or earlier versions of
>> Windows
>> with Office 2003 installed. I've repaired and reinstalled Office with no
>> change, but haven't tried anything to "repair" or reinstall OE.
>>
>> Any ideas? Do I need to install Outlook 2003 or some component thereof?
>> I'd
>> *really* rather not.



Re: Spellchecker in OE doesn't work in XP 64-bit by Jud

Jud
Sun Sep 03 16:00:23 CDT 2006

On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 13:43:46 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org>
wrote:

As an alternative you can use an e-mail client which uses it's own
spellchecker, like Mozilla Thunderbird or Forte Agent, untill this problem
is fixed.

jud

Re: Spellchecker in OE doesn't work in XP 64-bit by Gary

Gary
Sun Sep 03 16:25:56 CDT 2006

I considered those and included them in the "possible solutions" discussion
we just had. She's decided to wait for Vista before diving into a new email
app. Gonna wait for Vista RC1 to try on this system (unless I get *really*
bored in the next week or two.) I reserved a partition just for that.

I also suggested Outlook 2003 since it would also provide significant
"client management" features, but she uses Goldmine for that. Now all we
gotta do is find the Goldmine disks that are lost somewhere in the moving
boxes. Those and Quickbooks. No rush. The old computer is working just fine,
and once we gets this one all set up I won't be able to play with it anymore
;<(

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"Jud Hendrix" <none@none.com> wrote in message
news:bigmf21bqg1m4gdcdoahdqifgmld8tb1lq@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 13:43:46 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org>
> wrote:
>
> As an alternative you can use an e-mail client which uses it's own
> spellchecker, like Mozilla Thunderbird or Forte Agent, untill this problem
> is fixed.
>
> jud



Re: Spellchecker in OE doesn't work in XP 64-bit by Gary

Gary
Sun Sep 03 16:38:15 CDT 2006


"PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23OLeMD6zGHA.4972@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> OP in the thread I cited said Tiny Spell kinda/sorta worked. YMMV.
> http://www.megspace.com/computers/tinyspell/

Tried it. OP is right with the kinda/sorta tag. Not really useful to us.

> Things going better with the missus, are they? Good!

Yup. Complicated, but heading in the right direction.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User



Re: Spellchecker in OE doesn't work in XP 64-bit by Dennis

Dennis
Sun Sep 03 17:50:18 CDT 2006

Gary:
As you found out from PA Bear OE is 64-bit in x64 and uses the spell
check from Word which is 32-bit which causes a compatibility issue. The work
around that I used was to type my message or reply in Word, use spell check
then cut and paste it to OE. I know that it is a tedious work around but I
got used to doing it at work because the program that I have to use doesn't
have spell check.

"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:O2RaCF6zGHA.3908@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23OLeMD6zGHA.4972@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> OP in the thread I cited said Tiny Spell kinda/sorta worked. YMMV.
>> http://www.megspace.com/computers/tinyspell/
>
> Tried it. OP is right with the kinda/sorta tag. Not really useful to us.
>
>> Things going better with the missus, are they? Good!
>
> Yup. Complicated, but heading in the right direction.
>
> --
>
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
>
>


Re: Spellchecker in OE doesn't work in XP 64-bit by Charlie

Charlie
Sun Sep 03 18:29:32 CDT 2006

Gary -
As Pa Bear, et al, have pointed out - you can't get there from here. A
little background may help in understanding, however. Office is, as we both
know, a 32-bit application. No problem, it works perfectly well in XP x64,
except for a couple of mostly minor things like the image printer. Outlook
Express in XP x64, however, is a 64-bit application. In order to do spell
checking, OE needs access to the Office spell checker, which is a DLL. The
catch is, of course, that a 64bit application can not call a 32-bit DLL.
Just as a 32-bit application can not call a 64bit DLL. This means that until
there is a 64bit version of the Word spell checker, or some third party
spell checker that can link into 64bit OE, there will not be a spell checker
that works in OE.

The good news is that Windows Mail (the successor to OE) in Vista does
spell checking just fine.

Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64


"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:umbHQZ5zGHA.2196@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> I'm new to 64-bit WinXP, and while I've managed to figure out a lot of
> stuff, I can't figure out this one. I've installed Office Pro 2003
> (*everything* but Outlook) and it *seems* to be working OK, though I
> haven't really done much with it. Spellchecker does work in Office apps,
> but not in OE. I've already tried changing Shared Tools\SharedFilesDir
> from *\Program Files\* to *\Program Files (x86)\* but that didn't help,
> and the KB article that suggests a couple of DLLs might be missing seems
> inapplicable, since Office 2003 uses a different set.
>
> I've never had this problem in many other XP or earlier versions of
> Windows with Office 2003 installed. I've repaired and reinstalled Office
> with no change, but haven't tried anything to "repair" or reinstall OE.
>
> Any ideas? Do I need to install Outlook 2003 or some component thereof?
> I'd *really* rather not.
>
> --
>
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
>
>

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64


Re: Spellchecker in OE doesn't work in XP 64-bit by Dennis

Dennis
Sun Sep 03 18:35:44 CDT 2006

Charlie:
Thank you for giving a better explanation than I did.

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <Charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.com> wrote in message
news:CD0DF789-9EB7-42CA-B639-4D3BA85FC272@microsoft.com...
> Gary -
> As Pa Bear, et al, have pointed out - you can't get there from here. A
> little background may help in understanding, however. Office is, as we
> both know, a 32-bit application. No problem, it works perfectly well in XP
> x64, except for a couple of mostly minor things like the image printer.
> Outlook Express in XP x64, however, is a 64-bit application. In order to
> do spell checking, OE needs access to the Office spell checker, which is a
> DLL. The catch is, of course, that a 64bit application can not call a
> 32-bit DLL. Just as a 32-bit application can not call a 64bit DLL. This
> means that until there is a 64bit version of the Word spell checker, or
> some third party spell checker that can link into 64bit OE, there will not
> be a spell checker that works in OE.
>
> The good news is that Windows Mail (the successor to OE) in Vista does
> spell checking just fine.
>
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
>
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:umbHQZ5zGHA.2196@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> I'm new to 64-bit WinXP, and while I've managed to figure out a lot of
>> stuff, I can't figure out this one. I've installed Office Pro 2003
>> (*everything* but Outlook) and it *seems* to be working OK, though I
>> haven't really done much with it. Spellchecker does work in Office apps,
>> but not in OE. I've already tried changing Shared Tools\SharedFilesDir
>> from *\Program Files\* to *\Program Files (x86)\* but that didn't help,
>> and the KB article that suggests a couple of DLLs might be missing seems
>> inapplicable, since Office 2003 uses a different set.
>>
>> I've never had this problem in many other XP or earlier versions of
>> Windows with Office 2003 installed. I've repaired and reinstalled Office
>> with no change, but haven't tried anything to "repair" or reinstall OE.
>>
>> Any ideas? Do I need to install Outlook 2003 or some component thereof?
>> I'd *really* rather not.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>
>>
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64


Re: Spellchecker in OE doesn't work in XP 64-bit by Charlie

Charlie
Sun Sep 03 19:15:25 CDT 2006

No, just longer. ;)

Charlie.

"Dennis Pack x64, v64B2 (5384), OPP2007B2" <dennispack@nospamhotmail.com>
wrote in message news:30F1F891-97AB-4280-AF59-F83C5B9C9ABB@microsoft.com...
> Charlie:
> Thank you for giving a better explanation than I did.
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <Charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.com> wrote in message
> news:CD0DF789-9EB7-42CA-B639-4D3BA85FC272@microsoft.com...
>> Gary -
>> As Pa Bear, et al, have pointed out - you can't get there from here. A
>> little background may help in understanding, however. Office is, as we
>> both know, a 32-bit application. No problem, it works perfectly well in
>> XP x64, except for a couple of mostly minor things like the image
>> printer. Outlook Express in XP x64, however, is a 64-bit application. In
>> order to do spell checking, OE needs access to the Office spell checker,
>> which is a DLL. The catch is, of course, that a 64bit application can not
>> call a 32-bit DLL. Just as a 32-bit application can not call a 64bit DLL.
>> This means that until there is a 64bit version of the Word spell checker,
>> or some third party spell checker that can link into 64bit OE, there will
>> not be a spell checker that works in OE.
>>
>> The good news is that Windows Mail (the successor to OE) in Vista does
>> spell checking just fine.
>>
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
>>
>>
>> "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:umbHQZ5zGHA.2196@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> I'm new to 64-bit WinXP, and while I've managed to figure out a lot of
>>> stuff, I can't figure out this one. I've installed Office Pro 2003
>>> (*everything* but Outlook) and it *seems* to be working OK, though I
>>> haven't really done much with it. Spellchecker does work in Office apps,
>>> but not in OE. I've already tried changing Shared Tools\SharedFilesDir
>>> from *\Program Files\* to *\Program Files (x86)\* but that didn't help,
>>> and the KB article that suggests a couple of DLLs might be missing seems
>>> inapplicable, since Office 2003 uses a different set.
>>>
>>> I've never had this problem in many other XP or earlier versions of
>>> Windows with Office 2003 installed. I've repaired and reinstalled Office
>>> with no change, but haven't tried anything to "repair" or reinstall OE.
>>>
>>> Any ideas? Do I need to install Outlook 2003 or some component thereof?
>>> I'd *really* rather not.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
>

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64


Re: Spellchecker in OE doesn't work in XP 64-bit by Gary

Gary
Sun Sep 03 20:46:56 CDT 2006

For me, accustomed as I am to composing and sending several dozens of
messages daily (used to be hundreds but I've slacked off in recent years),
such a workaround would indeed be tedious, <s>. But thanks for the
suggestion.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"Dennis Pack x64, v64B2 (5384), OPP2007B2" <dennispack@nospamhotmail.com>
wrote in message news:9AD7413A-EF52-4836-8F32-C370646EAE6F@microsoft.com...
> Gary:
> As you found out from PA Bear OE is 64-bit in x64 and uses the
> spell check from Word which is 32-bit which causes a compatibility issue.
> The work around that I used was to type my message or reply in Word, use
> spell check then cut and paste it to OE. I know that it is a tedious work
> around but I got used to doing it at work because the program that I have
> to use doesn't have spell check.



Re: Spellchecker in OE doesn't work in XP 64-bit by PA

PA
Sun Sep 03 22:33:03 CDT 2006

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Re: Spellchecker in OE doesn't work in XP 64-bit by Dennis

Dennis
Sun Sep 03 22:57:03 CDT 2006

PA Bear:
Welcome to x64.


"PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uw$5WL9zGHA.4976@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Pass the screen & monitor wipes, please.
>
> Charlie Russel - MVP wrote:
>> No, just longer. ;)
>>
>> "Dennis Pack" wrote:
>>> Charlie:
>>> Thank you for giving a better explanation than I did.


Re: Spellchecker in OE doesn't work in XP 64-bit by Charlie

Charlie
Mon Sep 04 00:47:43 CDT 2006

<g>
"PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uw$5WL9zGHA.4976@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Pass the screen & monitor wipes, please.
>
> Charlie Russel - MVP wrote:
>> No, just longer. ;)
>>
>> "Dennis Pack" wrote:
>>> Charlie:
>>> Thank you for giving a better explanation than I did.


Re: Spellchecker in OE doesn't work in XP 64-bit by DP

DP
Mon Sep 04 06:29:42 CDT 2006


"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:eA11hs5zGHA.4176@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Oh boy! Thanks, Pa! guess I'm gonna have to continue manual checking.

You could always type your correspondence in Word first, spellcheck it and
then cut and paste into OE mails.
At least that'll work for initial correspondences. To do that when replying
to other emails may become more of a hassle.




Re: Spellchecker in OE doesn't work in XP 64-bit by Gary

Gary
Mon Sep 04 06:32:30 CDT 2006

Before I forget, thanks for the detailed explanation. I now see it as a good
thing that I didn't find that TechNet article on my own, as I would never
have proceeded to ask about it here and thus not gained this timely and
fundamental insight into what will probably be *the* major issue in 64-bit
Windows systems for some time to come.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <Charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.com> wrote in message
news:CD0DF789-9EB7-42CA-B639-4D3BA85FC272@microsoft.com...
> Gary -
> As Pa Bear, et al, have pointed out - you can't get there from here. A
> little background may help in understanding, however. Office is, as we
> both know, a 32-bit application. No problem, it works perfectly well in XP
> x64, except for a couple of mostly minor things like the image printer.
> Outlook Express in XP x64, however, is a 64-bit application. In order to
> do spell checking, OE needs access to the Office spell checker, which is a
> DLL. The catch is, of course, that a 64bit application can not call a
> 32-bit DLL. Just as a 32-bit application can not call a 64bit DLL. This
> means that until there is a 64bit version of the Word spell checker, or
> some third party spell checker that can link into 64bit OE, there will not
> be a spell checker that works in OE.
>
> The good news is that Windows Mail (the successor to OE) in Vista does
> spell checking just fine.
>
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64



Re: Spellchecker in OE doesn't work in XP 64-bit by Gary

Gary
Mon Sep 04 06:45:11 CDT 2006

99.99...% of my OE use is for newsgroup posts, and all but a few per year
are Replies. With those averaging many dozens per day, I'm not about to
compose in some other app and then copy/paste into OE. But thanks for the
suggestion, <s>.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"DP" <nospamxx@xyzddd.com> wrote in message
news:OcoBvVB0GHA.4648@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:eA11hs5zGHA.4176@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Oh boy! Thanks, Pa! guess I'm gonna have to continue manual checking.
>
> You could always type your correspondence in Word first, spellcheck it and
> then cut and paste into OE mails.
> At least that'll work for initial correspondences. To do that when
> replying to other emails may become more of a hassle.
>
>
>



Re: Spellchecker in OE doesn't work in XP 64-bit by Charlie

Charlie
Mon Sep 04 09:13:18 CDT 2006

This is one that isn't going to go away. And, when you actually think about
it, makes perfect sense. If you have a process in memory that is 64bit, you
wouldn't expect it to be able to call a .DLL that is 32-bit. It can execute
a standalone .EXE, however, because an EXE runs entirely in its own space.

"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%23VS%230XB0GHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Before I forget, thanks for the detailed explanation. I now see it as a
> good thing that I didn't find that TechNet article on my own, as I would
> never have proceeded to ask about it here and thus not gained this timely
> and fundamental insight into what will probably be *the* major issue in
> 64-bit Windows systems for some time to come.
>
> --
>
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <Charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.com> wrote in message
> news:CD0DF789-9EB7-42CA-B639-4D3BA85FC272@microsoft.com...
>> Gary -
>> As Pa Bear, et al, have pointed out - you can't get there from here. A
>> little background may help in understanding, however. Office is, as we
>> both know, a 32-bit application. No problem, it works perfectly well in
>> XP x64, except for a couple of mostly minor things like the image
>> printer. Outlook Express in XP x64, however, is a 64-bit application. In
>> order to do spell checking, OE needs access to the Office spell checker,
>> which is a DLL. The catch is, of course, that a 64bit application can not
>> call a 32-bit DLL. Just as a 32-bit application can not call a 64bit DLL.
>> This means that until there is a 64bit version of the Word spell checker,
>> or some third party spell checker that can link into 64bit OE, there will
>> not be a spell checker that works in OE.
>>
>> The good news is that Windows Mail (the successor to OE) in Vista does
>> spell checking just fine.
>>
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
>
>


Re: Spellchecker in OE doesn't work in XP 64-bit by Gary

Gary
Mon Sep 04 11:16:36 CDT 2006

Yup, makes perfect sense. By "for some time" I simply meant "until all or
most applications that might involve such incompatibilities are produced in
64-bit versions", <s>.

Though why they bothered to convert OE to 64-bit escapes me, what with this
being the last OE that will ever be released. Would have been just fine to
leave it as a 32-bit app. After all, they include a 32-bit version of IE.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <Charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.com> wrote in message
news:949137A1-F763-4D6D-A8FA-D726372CCD22@microsoft.com...
> This is one that isn't going to go away. And, when you actually think
> about it, makes perfect sense. If you have a process in memory that is
> 64bit, you wouldn't expect it to be able to call a .DLL that is 32-bit. It
> can execute a standalone .EXE, however, because an EXE runs entirely in
> its own space.
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:%23VS%230XB0GHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Before I forget, thanks for the detailed explanation. I now see it as a
>> good thing that I didn't find that TechNet article on my own, as I would
>> never have proceeded to ask about it here and thus not gained this timely
>> and fundamental insight into what will probably be *the* major issue in
>> 64-bit Windows systems for some time to come.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>
>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <Charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.com> wrote in message
>> news:CD0DF789-9EB7-42CA-B639-4D3BA85FC272@microsoft.com...
>>> Gary -
>>> As Pa Bear, et al, have pointed out - you can't get there from here.
>>> A little background may help in understanding, however. Office is, as we
>>> both know, a 32-bit application. No problem, it works perfectly well in
>>> XP x64, except for a couple of mostly minor things like the image
>>> printer. Outlook Express in XP x64, however, is a 64-bit application. In
>>> order to do spell checking, OE needs access to the Office spell checker,
>>> which is a DLL. The catch is, of course, that a 64bit application can
>>> not call a 32-bit DLL. Just as a 32-bit application can not call a 64bit
>>> DLL. This means that until there is a 64bit version of the Word spell
>>> checker, or some third party spell checker that can link into 64bit OE,
>>> there will not be a spell checker that works in OE.
>>>
>>> The good news is that Windows Mail (the successor to OE) in Vista
>>> does spell checking just fine.
>>>
>>> Charlie.
>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
>>
>>
>



Re: Spellchecker in OE doesn't work in XP 64-bit by Charlie

Charlie
Mon Sep 04 11:46:10 CDT 2006

All through the beta there were both in there. But it caused corruption
problems, so they had to ship only one. As to why? well, it _is_ part of the
OS, it ought to be 64bit. I'm sure they'd have done both if they hadn't run
into problems. If you look, there is still the appearance of a 32-bit IE in
there, but it just calls the 64bit one.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%23Crg91D0GHA.772@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Yup, makes perfect sense. By "for some time" I simply meant "until all or
> most applications that might involve such incompatibilities are produced
> in 64-bit versions", <s>.
>
> Though why they bothered to convert OE to 64-bit escapes me, what with
> this being the last OE that will ever be released. Would have been just
> fine to leave it as a 32-bit app. After all, they include a 32-bit version
> of IE.
>
> --
>
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <Charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.com> wrote in message
> news:949137A1-F763-4D6D-A8FA-D726372CCD22@microsoft.com...
>> This is one that isn't going to go away. And, when you actually think
>> about it, makes perfect sense. If you have a process in memory that is
>> 64bit, you wouldn't expect it to be able to call a .DLL that is 32-bit.
>> It can execute a standalone .EXE, however, because an EXE runs entirely
>> in its own space.
>>
>> "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:%23VS%230XB0GHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Before I forget, thanks for the detailed explanation. I now see it as a
>>> good thing that I didn't find that TechNet article on my own, as I would
>>> never have proceeded to ask about it here and thus not gained this
>>> timely and fundamental insight into what will probably be *the* major
>>> issue in 64-bit Windows systems for some time to come.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>
>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <Charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.com> wrote in
>>> message news:CD0DF789-9EB7-42CA-B639-4D3BA85FC272@microsoft.com...
>>>> Gary -
>>>> As Pa Bear, et al, have pointed out - you can't get there from here.
>>>> A little background may help in understanding, however. Office is, as
>>>> we both know, a 32-bit application. No problem, it works perfectly well
>>>> in XP x64, except for a couple of mostly minor things like the image
>>>> printer. Outlook Express in XP x64, however, is a 64-bit application.
>>>> In order to do spell checking, OE needs access to the Office spell
>>>> checker, which is a DLL. The catch is, of course, that a 64bit
>>>> application can not call a 32-bit DLL. Just as a 32-bit application can
>>>> not call a 64bit DLL. This means that until there is a 64bit version of
>>>> the Word spell checker, or some third party spell checker that can link
>>>> into 64bit OE, there will not be a spell checker that works in OE.
>>>>
>>>> The good news is that Windows Mail (the successor to OE) in Vista
>>>> does spell checking just fine.
>>>>
>>>> Charlie.
>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>


Re: Spellchecker in OE doesn't work in XP 64-bit by Gary

Gary
Mon Sep 04 13:24:59 CDT 2006


"Charlie Russel - MVP" <Charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.com> wrote in message
news:1F563B50-2111-4895-A8C5-4E8A38892094@microsoft.com...
> All through the beta there were both in there. But it caused corruption
> problems, so they had to ship only one. As to why? well, it _is_ part of
> the OS, it ought to be 64bit. I'm sure they'd have done both if they
> hadn't run into problems. If you look, there is still the appearance of a
> 32-bit IE in there, but it just calls the 64bit one.

That last part (re IE) piques my interest. One of the earliest websites I
went to claimed it wouldn't work with 64-bit IE so I launched "32-bit" IE,
and the site then worked. Wish I could remember which site so I could try to
replicate it. Guess I'll use the 64-bit one for a while and see if I come
across it again, though it was probably one of the multitude of hardware and
software sites I went to in search of app updates and drivers. Interesting
that the QuickLaunch shortcut points to the "32-bit" one.

(Suppose we might want to get rid of the OE group cross-post if this goes
much further afield.)

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User



Re: Spellchecker in OE doesn't work in XP 64-bit by Charlie

Charlie
Mon Sep 04 14:57:46 CDT 2006

Sorry, a totally stupid typo! "appearance of 32-bit IE" should have read
"appearance of 32-bit OE"!

There are definitely two very different versions of Internet Explorer in XP
x64. And lots of sites don't work well with the 64bit one, including
connect.microsoft.com, unfortunately.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:etYxs9E0GHA.4116@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <Charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.com> wrote in message
> news:1F563B50-2111-4895-A8C5-4E8A38892094@microsoft.com...
>> All through the beta there were both in there. But it caused corruption
>> problems, so they had to ship only one. As to why? well, it _is_ part of
>> the OS, it ought to be 64bit. I'm sure they'd have done both if they
>> hadn't run into problems. If you look, there is still the appearance of a
>> 32-bit IE in there, but it just calls the 64bit one.
>
> That last part (re IE) piques my interest. One of the earliest websites I
> went to claimed it wouldn't work with 64-bit IE so I launched "32-bit" IE,
> and the site then worked. Wish I could remember which site so I could try
> to replicate it. Guess I'll use the 64-bit one for a while and see if I
> come across it again, though it was probably one of the multitude of
> hardware and software sites I went to in search of app updates and
> drivers. Interesting that the QuickLaunch shortcut points to the "32-bit"
> one.
>
> (Suppose we might want to get rid of the OE group cross-post if this goes
> much further afield.)
>
> --
>
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
>
>


Re: Spellchecker in OE doesn't work in XP 64-bit by Gary

Gary
Mon Sep 04 15:05:16 CDT 2006

OK, that takes a load off my mind. Seeing as I pulled an all-nighter, it's
going to be *much* easier to go to bed now, <s> Thanks for the
enlightenment. I'm sure you'll be seeing more of me here (XP 64-bit) in the
weeks and months to come!

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <Charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.com> wrote in message
news:65041C7D-93F9-45C0-AA1E-BBCCDE01F170@microsoft.com...
> Sorry, a totally stupid typo! "appearance of 32-bit IE" should have read
> "appearance of 32-bit OE"!
>
> There are definitely two very different versions of Internet Explorer in
> XP x64. And lots of sites don't work well with the 64bit one, including
> connect.microsoft.com, unfortunately.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
> "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:etYxs9E0GHA.4116@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <Charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.com> wrote in message
>> news:1F563B50-2111-4895-A8C5-4E8A38892094@microsoft.com...
>>> All through the beta there were both in there. But it caused corruption
>>> problems, so they had to ship only one. As to why? well, it _is_ part of
>>> the OS, it ought to be 64bit. I'm sure they'd have done both if they
>>> hadn't run into problems. If you look, there is still the appearance of
>>> a 32-bit IE in there, but it just calls the 64bit one.
>>
>> That last part (re IE) piques my interest. One of the earliest websites I
>> went to claimed it wouldn't work with 64-bit IE so I launched "32-bit"
>> IE, and the site then worked. Wish I could remember which site so I could
>> try to replicate it. Guess I'll use the 64-bit one for a while and see if
>> I come across it again, though it was probably one of the multitude of
>> hardware and software sites I went to in search of app updates and
>> drivers. Interesting that the QuickLaunch shortcut points to the "32-bit"
>> one.
>>
>> (Suppose we might want to get rid of the OE group cross-post if this goes
>> much further afield.)
>>
>> --
>>
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>
>>
>



Re: Spellchecker in OE doesn't work in XP 64-bit by Charlie

Charlie
Tue Sep 05 00:25:19 CDT 2006

You're always welcome, Gary. And we'll even let you handle the misguided
souls who stumble in here because it's the first one on the list under
Windows. ;)

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:uiY7$1F0GHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> OK, that takes a load off my mind. Seeing as I pulled an all-nighter, it's
> going to be *much* easier to go to bed now, <s> Thanks for the
> enlightenment. I'm sure you'll be seeing more of me here (XP 64-bit) in
> the weeks and months to come!
>
> --
>
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <Charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.com> wrote in message
> news:65041C7D-93F9-45C0-AA1E-BBCCDE01F170@microsoft.com...
>> Sorry, a totally stupid typo! "appearance of 32-bit IE" should have read
>> "appearance of 32-bit OE"!
>>
>> There are definitely two very different versions of Internet Explorer in
>> XP x64. And lots of sites don't work well with the 64bit one, including
>> connect.microsoft.com, unfortunately.
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
>> "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:etYxs9E0GHA.4116@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <Charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.com> wrote in
>>> message news:1F563B50-2111-4895-A8C5-4E8A38892094@microsoft.com...
>>>> All through the beta there were both in there. But it caused corruption
>>>> problems, so they had to ship only one. As to why? well, it _is_ part
>>>> of the OS, it ought to be 64bit. I'm sure they'd have done both if they
>>>> hadn't run into problems. If you look, there is still the appearance of
>>>> a 32-bit IE in there, but it just calls the 64bit one.
>>>
>>> That last part (re IE) piques my interest. One of the earliest websites
>>> I went to claimed it wouldn't work with 64-bit IE so I launched "32-bit"
>>> IE, and the site then worked. Wish I could remember which site so I
>>> could try to replicate it. Guess I'll use the 64-bit one for a while and
>>> see if I come across it again, though it was probably one of the
>>> multitude of hardware and software sites I went to in search of app
>>> updates and drivers. Interesting that the QuickLaunch shortcut points to
>>> the "32-bit" one.
>>>
>>> (Suppose we might want to get rid of the OE group cross-post if this
>>> goes much further afield.)
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>


Re: Spellchecker in OE doesn't work in XP 64-bit by Gary

Gary
Tue Sep 05 12:13:57 CDT 2006

Et tu, Brute?

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eGTlejL0GHA.720@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> QED: Should someone who misspells or makes typos run WinXP 64-bit? <eg>
> --
> ~PAÞ
>
> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>> Before I forget, thanks for the detailed explanation. I now see it as a
>> good
>> thing that I didn't find that TechNet article on my own, as I would never
>> have proceeded to ask about it here and thus not gained this timely and
>> fundamental insight into what will probably be *the* major issue in
>> 64-bit
>> Windows systems for some time to come.
>>