Should I buy the 64 bit version of XP?

I purchased new hardware which entitles me to the 64 bit version of XP 64
however, due to all the negative blogs I read about driver supports, I held
off. Can someone please enlighten me on this issue? Thanks

Andre
Sat Jan 21 09:13:45 CST 2006

Check out Charlie Russel overview of x64 to see if it fits your needs and if
searching for drivers and hoping they work is a adventure for you instead of
a chore:
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64/archive/2005/11/29/77166.aspx

--
--
Andre
Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
"nospam" <nospam@ere.net> wrote in message
news:OIp0xXpHGHA.3700@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>I purchased new hardware which entitles me to the 64 bit version of XP 64
>however, due to all the negative blogs I read about driver supports, I held
>off. Can someone please enlighten me on this issue? Thanks
>

Jud
Sat Jan 21 09:15:48 CST 2006

On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:21:15 -0500, "nospam" <nospam@ere.net> wrote:

>I purchased new hardware which entitles me to the 64 bit version of XP 64
>however, due to all the negative blogs I read about driver supports, I held
>off. Can someone please enlighten me on this issue? Thanks

A lot of the current hardware of major brands has 64-bit drivers. External
peripherals, like printers and scanners, are still lacking. Best would be
that you check-out your hardware, and have a look at the manufacturer's
website, whther they have 64-bit drivers, or have any plans for them.
A lot of the 32-bit software runs on x64 as well. However the one's which
need to access specific hardware, like dongles, might not run. Again, check
the manufacturer's website, and then take a decision, based of your own
situation.

jud

joeberle
Sun Jan 22 08:56:03 CST 2006



"nospam" wrote:

> I purchased new hardware which entitles me to the 64 bit version of XP 64
> however, due to all the negative blogs I read about driver supports, I held
> off. Can someone please enlighten me on this issue? Thanks
>
>
> DO NOT listen to AndreDaCosta or Charlie Russel. They will downplay all of the problems and say that all of the time you will waste trying to get drivers and programs to work is no big deal. Do not let them sell you. There is NO benefit to you if you are not a developer. Your old hardware will NOT work. ALL of your programs are most likely written for x86 anyway. They will not say this, they will just say, "do some research". Well, I have. Don't bother!

Andre
Sun Jan 22 14:45:28 CST 2006

I am not downplaying anything, I have made it clear, there are possible
challenges in migrating from Windows x86 to Windows XP Professional x64, in
fact, I have said numerous times, this is a technical workstation operating
system, not a consumer one although it contains all the features most
consumers need, I have also said, not because you have a 64-bit enabled
processor necessarily means you are obligated to migrate to it. If your
intent is to have an entirely 64-bit computing experience, then necessary
research is needed to have successful transition, ensuring that all your
applications, device drivers are compatible with available drivers/updates
or alternatives that will work with operating system.

Again, if you are consumer who wants to have a 64-bit computing experience
with a wider range of compatible devices and software, Windows Vista would
be best waiting for.
--
--
Andre
Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
"joeberle" <joeberle@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F21A380B-D97B-49B4-977B-9F3473A0EA2C@microsoft.com...
>
>
> "nospam" wrote:
>
>> I purchased new hardware which entitles me to the 64 bit version of XP 64
>> however, due to all the negative blogs I read about driver supports, I
>> held
>> off. Can someone please enlighten me on this issue? Thanks
>>
>>
>> DO NOT listen to AndreDaCosta or Charlie Russel. They will downplay all
>> of the problems and say that all of the time you will waste trying to get
>> drivers and programs to work is no big deal. Do not let them sell you.
>> There is NO benefit to you if you are not a developer. Your old hardware
>> will NOT work. ALL of your programs are most likely written for x86
>> anyway. They will not say this, they will just say, "do some research".
>> Well, I have. Don't bother!

Jud
Sun Jan 22 18:17:31 CST 2006

On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 06:56:03 -0800, "joeberle"
<joeberle@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Well, I have. Don't bother!

On ya! Then don't buy it. It's as simple as that.
I am sure that the OP can figure that one out for himself,
after all, why should we trust you, instead of Andre or Charlie?

jud

MGbassace
Tue Jan 24 07:06:04 CST 2006

I dont know whether I am reading between the lines on some of these posts,
but i get the impression at certain posters actually cant be bothered to do
any research and are relying too much on the people that have taken the
plunge so to speak, As with most new idea's and concepts certain research and
sacrafices have to be made and if this means that you old scanner or scsi
drive doesnt work then so be it, it might be time to change it anyway, Always
with new editions to anything research by the end user needs to be done. Look
to a few years in the future when the chances are that you will need to
"update" the petrol engine in you car to something "greener" like
electricity. Buliding an extension to your house still needs research, God
forbid if you want to have a baby and expect everyone and everything to be
instantly compatible with your enviroment. Yes I agree that x64 is not for
everybody and I also am grateful that I have been lucky with my hardware and
software on it. All I am saying is please listen to guys that post here
regularly and as the say do your own research check with your hardware
vendors, then make a decision. Or as i said earlier could be a great excuse
to replace that old hardware like you want to.

"Jud Hendrix" wrote:

> On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 06:56:03 -0800, "joeberle"
> <joeberle@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >Well, I have. Don't bother!
>
> On ya! Then don't buy it. It's as simple as that.
> I am sure that the OP can figure that one out for himself,
> after all, why should we trust you, instead of Andre or Charlie?
>
> jud
>

Charlie
Tue Jan 24 13:02:23 CST 2006

Yes, I always need a justification to upgrade my hardware. ;)

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64

MGbassace wrote:
> I dont know whether I am reading between the lines on some of these posts,
> but i get the impression at certain posters actually cant be bothered to
> do any research and are relying too much on the people that have taken the
> plunge so to speak, As with most new idea's and concepts certain research
> and sacrafices have to be made and if this means that you old scanner or
> scsi drive doesnt work then so be it, it might be time to change it
> anyway, Always with new editions to anything research by the end user
> needs to be done. Look to a few years in the future when the chances are
> that you will need to "update" the petrol engine in you car to something
> "greener" like electricity. Buliding an extension to your house still
> needs research, God forbid if you want to have a baby and expect everyone
> and everything to be instantly compatible with your enviroment. Yes I
> agree that x64 is not for everybody and I also am grateful that I have
> been lucky with my hardware and software on it. All I am saying is
> please listen to guys that post here regularly and as the say do your own
> research check with your hardware vendors, then make a decision. Or as i
> said earlier could be a great excuse to replace that old hardware like
> you want to.
>
> "Jud Hendrix" wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 06:56:03 -0800, "joeberle"
>> <joeberle@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, I have. Don't bother!
>>
>> On ya! Then don't buy it. It's as simple as that.
>> I am sure that the OP can figure that one out for himself,
>> after all, why should we trust you, instead of Andre or Charlie?
>>
>> jud

nospam
Tue Jan 24 15:52:58 CST 2006

That's right, so do I. Called Microsoft to find out whether or not I can use
the OEM version of XP64 on another computer when the first one breaks
down. Microsoft told me NO! In other words, we got vaporware here
with which Microsoft wants to get fatter and richer.

I decided not to buy XP 64. Screw it!


"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
news:OOkNXjRIGHA.3100@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Yes, I always need a justification to upgrade my hardware. ;)
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>
> MGbassace wrote:
>> I dont know whether I am reading between the lines on some of these
>> posts,
>> but i get the impression at certain posters actually cant be bothered to
>> do any research and are relying too much on the people that have taken
>> the
>> plunge so to speak, As with most new idea's and concepts certain research
>> and sacrafices have to be made and if this means that you old scanner or
>> scsi drive doesnt work then so be it, it might be time to change it
>> anyway, Always with new editions to anything research by the end user
>> needs to be done. Look to a few years in the future when the chances are
>> that you will need to "update" the petrol engine in you car to something
>> "greener" like electricity. Buliding an extension to your house still
>> needs research, God forbid if you want to have a baby and expect everyone
>> and everything to be instantly compatible with your enviroment. Yes I
>> agree that x64 is not for everybody and I also am grateful that I have
>> been lucky with my hardware and software on it. All I am saying is
>> please listen to guys that post here regularly and as the say do your own
>> research check with your hardware vendors, then make a decision. Or as i
>> said earlier could be a great excuse to replace that old hardware like
>> you want to.
>>
>> "Jud Hendrix" wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 06:56:03 -0800, "joeberle"
>>> <joeberle@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, I have. Don't bother!
>>>
>>> On ya! Then don't buy it. It's as simple as that.
>>> I am sure that the OP can figure that one out for himself,
>>> after all, why should we trust you, instead of Andre or Charlie?
>>>
>>> jud
>
>

Charlie
Tue Jan 24 18:42:58 CST 2006

That's always the case with OEM versions of software. Has been, and will be.
It's tied to the hardware. Now, if you keep the same case, my position is,
it's the same computer.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64

nospam wrote:
> That's right, so do I. Called Microsoft to find out whether or not I can
> use the OEM version of XP64 on another computer when the first one breaks
> down. Microsoft told me NO! In other words, we got vaporware here
> with which Microsoft wants to get fatter and richer.
>
> I decided not to buy XP 64. Screw it!
>
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
> news:OOkNXjRIGHA.3100@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Yes, I always need a justification to upgrade my hardware. ;)
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>
>> MGbassace wrote:
>>> I dont know whether I am reading between the lines on some of these
>>> posts,
>>> but i get the impression at certain posters actually cant be bothered to
>>> do any research and are relying too much on the people that have taken
>>> the
>>> plunge so to speak, As with most new idea's and concepts certain
>>> research and sacrafices have to be made and if this means that you old
>>> scanner or scsi drive doesnt work then so be it, it might be time to
>>> change it anyway, Always with new editions to anything research by the
>>> end user needs to be done. Look to a few years in the future when the
>>> chances are that you will need to "update" the petrol engine in you car
>>> to something "greener" like electricity. Buliding an extension to your
>>> house still needs research, God forbid if you want to have a baby and
>>> expect everyone and everything to be instantly compatible with your
>>> enviroment. Yes I agree that x64 is not for everybody and I also am
>>> grateful that I have been lucky with my hardware and software on it. All
>>> I am saying is please listen to guys that post here regularly and
>>> as the say do your own research check with your hardware vendors, then
>>> make a decision. Or as i said earlier could be a great excuse to
>>> replace that old hardware like you want to.
>>>
>>> "Jud Hendrix" wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 06:56:03 -0800, "joeberle"
>>>> <joeberle@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well, I have. Don't bother!
>>>>
>>>> On ya! Then don't buy it. It's as simple as that.
>>>> I am sure that the OP can figure that one out for himself,
>>>> after all, why should we trust you, instead of Andre or Charlie?
>>>>
>>>> jud

nospam
Tue Jan 24 19:36:20 CST 2006

Yes, but the software - especially XP - gets data from the hardware and not
the case. Am I correct? :) So if you already installed the OEM and decide to
go with different hardware - like I wanted to do - you will not be able to
reactivate the software. I wasn't able to. Is there a loop hole I missed?



"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
news:%23wLWrhUIGHA.1676@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> That's always the case with OEM versions of software. Has been, and will
> be. It's tied to the hardware. Now, if you keep the same case, my position
> is, it's the same computer.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>
> nospam wrote:
>> That's right, so do I. Called Microsoft to find out whether or not I can
>> use the OEM version of XP64 on another computer when the first one breaks
>> down. Microsoft told me NO! In other words, we got vaporware here
>> with which Microsoft wants to get fatter and richer.
>>
>> I decided not to buy XP 64. Screw it!
>>
>>
>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
>> news:OOkNXjRIGHA.3100@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>> Yes, I always need a justification to upgrade my hardware. ;)
>>>
>>> --
>>> Charlie.
>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>>
>>> MGbassace wrote:
>>>> I dont know whether I am reading between the lines on some of these
>>>> posts,
>>>> but i get the impression at certain posters actually cant be bothered
>>>> to
>>>> do any research and are relying too much on the people that have taken
>>>> the
>>>> plunge so to speak, As with most new idea's and concepts certain
>>>> research and sacrafices have to be made and if this means that you old
>>>> scanner or scsi drive doesnt work then so be it, it might be time to
>>>> change it anyway, Always with new editions to anything research by the
>>>> end user needs to be done. Look to a few years in the future when the
>>>> chances are that you will need to "update" the petrol engine in you car
>>>> to something "greener" like electricity. Buliding an extension to your
>>>> house still needs research, God forbid if you want to have a baby and
>>>> expect everyone and everything to be instantly compatible with your
>>>> enviroment. Yes I agree that x64 is not for everybody and I also am
>>>> grateful that I have been lucky with my hardware and software on it.
>>>> All I am saying is please listen to guys that post here regularly and
>>>> as the say do your own research check with your hardware vendors, then
>>>> make a decision. Or as i said earlier could be a great excuse to
>>>> replace that old hardware like you want to.
>>>>
>>>> "Jud Hendrix" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 06:56:03 -0800, "joeberle"
>>>>> <joeberle@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, I have. Don't bother!
>>>>>
>>>>> On ya! Then don't buy it. It's as simple as that.
>>>>> I am sure that the OP can figure that one out for himself,
>>>>> after all, why should we trust you, instead of Andre or Charlie?
>>>>>
>>>>> jud
>
>

Andre
Tue Jan 24 23:14:41 CST 2006

Well, what MS does not know won't kill them. You should be able to
reactivate Windows XP every 120 days.
--
--
Andre
Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
"nospam" <nospam@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:%23TzhA$UIGHA.2036@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Yes, but the software - especially XP - gets data from the hardware and
> not the case. Am I correct? :) So if you already installed the OEM and
> decide to go with different hardware - like I wanted to do - you will not
> be able to reactivate the software. I wasn't able to. Is there a loop hole
> I missed?
>
>
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
> news:%23wLWrhUIGHA.1676@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> That's always the case with OEM versions of software. Has been, and will
>> be. It's tied to the hardware. Now, if you keep the same case, my
>> position is, it's the same computer.
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>
>> nospam wrote:
>>> That's right, so do I. Called Microsoft to find out whether or not I can
>>> use the OEM version of XP64 on another computer when the first one
>>> breaks
>>> down. Microsoft told me NO! In other words, we got vaporware here
>>> with which Microsoft wants to get fatter and richer.
>>>
>>> I decided not to buy XP 64. Screw it!
>>>
>>>
>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>>> message
>>> news:OOkNXjRIGHA.3100@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>> Yes, I always need a justification to upgrade my hardware. ;)
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Charlie.
>>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>>>
>>>> MGbassace wrote:
>>>>> I dont know whether I am reading between the lines on some of these
>>>>> posts,
>>>>> but i get the impression at certain posters actually cant be bothered
>>>>> to
>>>>> do any research and are relying too much on the people that have taken
>>>>> the
>>>>> plunge so to speak, As with most new idea's and concepts certain
>>>>> research and sacrafices have to be made and if this means that you old
>>>>> scanner or scsi drive doesnt work then so be it, it might be time to
>>>>> change it anyway, Always with new editions to anything research by the
>>>>> end user needs to be done. Look to a few years in the future when the
>>>>> chances are that you will need to "update" the petrol engine in you
>>>>> car
>>>>> to something "greener" like electricity. Buliding an extension to your
>>>>> house still needs research, God forbid if you want to have a baby and
>>>>> expect everyone and everything to be instantly compatible with your
>>>>> enviroment. Yes I agree that x64 is not for everybody and I also am
>>>>> grateful that I have been lucky with my hardware and software on it.
>>>>> All I am saying is please listen to guys that post here regularly and
>>>>> as the say do your own research check with your hardware vendors, then
>>>>> make a decision. Or as i said earlier could be a great excuse to
>>>>> replace that old hardware like you want to.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jud Hendrix" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 06:56:03 -0800, "joeberle"
>>>>>> <joeberle@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, I have. Don't bother!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On ya! Then don't buy it. It's as simple as that.
>>>>>> I am sure that the OP can figure that one out for himself,
>>>>>> after all, why should we trust you, instead of Andre or Charlie?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> jud
>>
>>
>
>

MGbassace
Wed Jan 25 04:31:03 CST 2006

"what MS doesnt know wont kill them" Think that there is an element of Truth
here I have an OEM version of XP which has been activated over the telephone
with MS UK more times than i can remember. MS are NOT totally heartless and
do understand that most of us users actually treat this as a hobby and do
frequently rush out and buy the latest donner kebab (Everything on)
motherboard, Or Latest GEFORCE "in yer face ATI" Graphics card. Never once
have i been refused an activation. When I put Windows 64 on my main machine I
even phoned MS UK and said "Look I have an OEM version of XP but no longer
use the OS on the machine it is tied to, Can i install it on my 2nd machine
that still runs Win 98, To which they replied as long as it is only installed
and running on one machine at a time only it wasnt a problem. So as far as I
am concerned I have legal MS operating systems on both of my machines. There
are ways and means around most things depending how you ask!!



"Andre Da Costa" wrote:

> Well, what MS does not know won't kill them. You should be able to
> reactivate Windows XP every 120 days.
> --
> --
> Andre
> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
> FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
> "nospam" <nospam@nowhere.net> wrote in message
> news:%23TzhA$UIGHA.2036@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > Yes, but the software - especially XP - gets data from the hardware and
> > not the case. Am I correct? :) So if you already installed the OEM and
> > decide to go with different hardware - like I wanted to do - you will not
> > be able to reactivate the software. I wasn't able to. Is there a loop hole
> > I missed?
> >
> >
> >
> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
> > news:%23wLWrhUIGHA.1676@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> That's always the case with OEM versions of software. Has been, and will
> >> be. It's tied to the hardware. Now, if you keep the same case, my
> >> position is, it's the same computer.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Charlie.
> >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
> >>
> >> nospam wrote:
> >>> That's right, so do I. Called Microsoft to find out whether or not I can
> >>> use the OEM version of XP64 on another computer when the first one
> >>> breaks
> >>> down. Microsoft told me NO! In other words, we got vaporware here
> >>> with which Microsoft wants to get fatter and richer.
> >>>
> >>> I decided not to buy XP 64. Screw it!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
> >>> message
> >>> news:OOkNXjRIGHA.3100@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >>>> Yes, I always need a justification to upgrade my hardware. ;)
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Charlie.
> >>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
> >>>>
> >>>> MGbassace wrote:
> >>>>> I dont know whether I am reading between the lines on some of these
> >>>>> posts,
> >>>>> but i get the impression at certain posters actually cant be bothered
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> do any research and are relying too much on the people that have taken
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> plunge so to speak, As with most new idea's and concepts certain
> >>>>> research and sacrafices have to be made and if this means that you old
> >>>>> scanner or scsi drive doesnt work then so be it, it might be time to
> >>>>> change it anyway, Always with new editions to anything research by the
> >>>>> end user needs to be done. Look to a few years in the future when the
> >>>>> chances are that you will need to "update" the petrol engine in you
> >>>>> car
> >>>>> to something "greener" like electricity. Buliding an extension to your
> >>>>> house still needs research, God forbid if you want to have a baby and
> >>>>> expect everyone and everything to be instantly compatible with your
> >>>>> enviroment. Yes I agree that x64 is not for everybody and I also am
> >>>>> grateful that I have been lucky with my hardware and software on it.
> >>>>> All I am saying is please listen to guys that post here regularly and
> >>>>> as the say do your own research check with your hardware vendors, then
> >>>>> make a decision. Or as i said earlier could be a great excuse to
> >>>>> replace that old hardware like you want to.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Jud Hendrix" wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 06:56:03 -0800, "joeberle"
> >>>>>> <joeberle@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Well, I have. Don't bother!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On ya! Then don't buy it. It's as simple as that.
> >>>>>> I am sure that the OP can figure that one out for himself,
> >>>>>> after all, why should we trust you, instead of Andre or Charlie?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> jud
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>

Charlie
Wed Jan 25 10:45:41 CST 2006

You should be able to reactivate. You _will_ almost certainly need to call
in and talk to a human. At which point, you just need to be careful how you
answer the questions to ensure that you don't give an incorrect impression.
"Is this a new computer?" "no, same computer, but I needed to change out the
motherboard".

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64

nospam wrote:
> Yes, but the software - especially XP - gets data from the hardware and
> not the case. Am I correct? :) So if you already installed the OEM and
> decide to go with different hardware - like I wanted to do - you will not
> be able to reactivate the software. I wasn't able to. Is there a loop
> hole I missed?
>
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
> news:%23wLWrhUIGHA.1676@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> That's always the case with OEM versions of software. Has been, and will
>> be. It's tied to the hardware. Now, if you keep the same case, my
>> position is, it's the same computer.
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>
>> nospam wrote:
>>> That's right, so do I. Called Microsoft to find out whether or not I can
>>> use the OEM version of XP64 on another computer when the first one
>>> breaks down. Microsoft told me NO! In other words, we got vaporware here
>>> with which Microsoft wants to get fatter and richer.
>>>
>>> I decided not to buy XP 64. Screw it!
>>>
>>>
>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>>> message news:OOkNXjRIGHA.3100@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>> Yes, I always need a justification to upgrade my hardware. ;)
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Charlie.
>>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>>>
>>>> MGbassace wrote:
>>>>> I dont know whether I am reading between the lines on some of these
>>>>> posts,
>>>>> but i get the impression at certain posters actually cant be bothered
>>>>> to
>>>>> do any research and are relying too much on the people that have taken
>>>>> the
>>>>> plunge so to speak, As with most new idea's and concepts certain
>>>>> research and sacrafices have to be made and if this means that you old
>>>>> scanner or scsi drive doesnt work then so be it, it might be time to
>>>>> change it anyway, Always with new editions to anything research by the
>>>>> end user needs to be done. Look to a few years in the future when the
>>>>> chances are that you will need to "update" the petrol engine in you
>>>>> car to something "greener" like electricity. Buliding an extension to
>>>>> your house still needs research, God forbid if you want to have a
>>>>> baby and expect everyone and everything to be instantly compatible
>>>>> with your enviroment. Yes I agree that x64 is not for everybody and I
>>>>> also am grateful that I have been lucky with my hardware and software
>>>>> on it. All I am saying is please listen to guys that post here
>>>>> regularly and as the say do your own research check with your
>>>>> hardware vendors, then make a decision. Or as i said earlier could be
>>>>> a great excuse to replace that old hardware like you want to.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jud Hendrix" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 06:56:03 -0800, "joeberle"
>>>>>> <joeberle@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, I have. Don't bother!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On ya! Then don't buy it. It's as simple as that.
>>>>>> I am sure that the OP can figure that one out for himself,
>>>>>> after all, why should we trust you, instead of Andre or Charlie?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> jud

Charlie
Wed Jan 25 10:47:42 CST 2006

Correct. You _will_ have to talk to someone on the phone with an OEM when it
triggers activation. But there you just need to be clear that you've simply
upgraded/replaced a component or two.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64

MGbassace wrote:
> "what MS doesnt know wont kill them" Think that there is an element of
> Truth here I have an OEM version of XP which has been activated over the
> telephone with MS UK more times than i can remember. MS are NOT totally
> heartless and do understand that most of us users actually treat this as
> a hobby and do frequently rush out and buy the latest donner kebab
> (Everything on) motherboard, Or Latest GEFORCE "in yer face ATI" Graphics
> card. Never once have i been refused an activation. When I put Windows 64
> on my main machine I even phoned MS UK and said "Look I have an OEM
> version of XP but no longer use the OS on the machine it is tied to, Can
> i install it on my 2nd machine that still runs Win 98, To which they
> replied as long as it is only installed and running on one machine at a
> time only it wasnt a problem. So as far as I am concerned I have legal
> MS operating systems on both of my machines. There are ways and means
> around most things depending how you ask!!
>
>
>
> "Andre Da Costa" wrote:
>
>> Well, what MS does not know won't kill them. You should be able to
>> reactivate Windows XP every 120 days.
>> --
>> --
>> Andre
>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>> FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
>> "nospam" <nospam@nowhere.net> wrote in message
>> news:%23TzhA$UIGHA.2036@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>> Yes, but the software - especially XP - gets data from the hardware and
>>> not the case. Am I correct? :) So if you already installed the OEM and
>>> decide to go with different hardware - like I wanted to do - you will
>>> not be able to reactivate the software. I wasn't able to. Is there a
>>> loop hole I missed?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>>> message news:%23wLWrhUIGHA.1676@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>> That's always the case with OEM versions of software. Has been, and
>>>> will be. It's tied to the hardware. Now, if you keep the same case, my
>>>> position is, it's the same computer.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Charlie.
>>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>>>
>>>> nospam wrote:
>>>>> That's right, so do I. Called Microsoft to find out whether or not I
>>>>> can use the OEM version of XP64 on another computer when the first one
>>>>> breaks
>>>>> down. Microsoft told me NO! In other words, we got vaporware here
>>>>> with which Microsoft wants to get fatter and richer.
>>>>>
>>>>> I decided not to buy XP 64. Screw it!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>>>>> message
>>>>> news:OOkNXjRIGHA.3100@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Yes, I always need a justification to upgrade my hardware. ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Charlie.
>>>>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MGbassace wrote:
>>>>>>> I dont know whether I am reading between the lines on some of these
>>>>>>> posts,
>>>>>>> but i get the impression at certain posters actually cant be
>>>>>>> bothered to
>>>>>>> do any research and are relying too much on the people that have
>>>>>>> taken the
>>>>>>> plunge so to speak, As with most new idea's and concepts certain
>>>>>>> research and sacrafices have to be made and if this means that you
>>>>>>> old scanner or scsi drive doesnt work then so be it, it might be
>>>>>>> time to change it anyway, Always with new editions to anything
>>>>>>> research by the end user needs to be done. Look to a few years in
>>>>>>> the future when the chances are that you will need to "update" the
>>>>>>> petrol engine in you car
>>>>>>> to something "greener" like electricity. Buliding an extension to
>>>>>>> your house still needs research, God forbid if you want to have a
>>>>>>> baby and expect everyone and everything to be instantly compatible
>>>>>>> with your enviroment. Yes I agree that x64 is not for everybody and
>>>>>>> I also am grateful that I have been lucky with my hardware and
>>>>>>> software on it. All I am saying is please listen to guys that post
>>>>>>> here regularly and as the say do your own research check with your
>>>>>>> hardware vendors, then make a decision. Or as i said earlier could
>>>>>>> be a great excuse to replace that old hardware like you want to.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jud Hendrix" wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 06:56:03 -0800, "joeberle"
>>>>>>>> <joeberle@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, I have. Don't bother!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On ya! Then don't buy it. It's as simple as that.
>>>>>>>> I am sure that the OP can figure that one out for himself,
>>>>>>>> after all, why should we trust you, instead of Andre or Charlie?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> jud