Requesting Comments on Stability/Reliability of x64

Thinking of purchasing this OS. Have heard some negative feedback. Would
like some reviews by actual users. Thanks.

Colin
Sat Dec 23 20:40:27 CST 2006

If you don't need 64bits stick with x86. I have never had a blue screen
with XP Pro x64 in a year and a half. Very very stable. All of the apps I
use work on it and it supports all my devices. Your mileage may vary. Keep
in mind that it is not an upgrade of XP Pro. It is an alternative version
of XP Pro for those with the need for 64bit addressing.

"greatsky" <greatsky@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8EA14447-1944-4DBC-ADD4-CBE302C3F598@microsoft.com...
> Thinking of purchasing this OS. Have heard some negative feedback. Would
> like some reviews by actual users. Thanks.

Dshai
Sat Dec 23 20:42:25 CST 2006

Which OS? XP x64, Vista64, or Win2k3 64?
"greatsky" <greatsky@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8EA14447-1944-4DBC-ADD4-CBE302C3F598@microsoft.com...
> Thinking of purchasing this OS. Have heard some negative feedback. Would
> like some reviews by actual users. Thanks.

greatsky
Sat Dec 23 20:51:01 CST 2006

xp x64

"Dshai" wrote:

> Which OS? XP x64, Vista64, or Win2k3 64?
> "greatsky" <greatsky@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8EA14447-1944-4DBC-ADD4-CBE302C3F598@microsoft.com...
> > Thinking of purchasing this OS. Have heard some negative feedback. Would
> > like some reviews by actual users. Thanks.
>
>
>

greatsky
Sat Dec 23 21:07:00 CST 2006

Thanks Colin. Why would a person need 64bits. My chip is a AMD 64 3800+.
Will this OS run Office 2003 and Explorer and Flight Sim X at a faster speed?
Thanks.

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

> If you don't need 64bits stick with x86. I have never had a blue screen
> with XP Pro x64 in a year and a half. Very very stable. All of the apps I
> use work on it and it supports all my devices. Your mileage may vary. Keep
> in mind that it is not an upgrade of XP Pro. It is an alternative version
> of XP Pro for those with the need for 64bit addressing.
>
> "greatsky" <greatsky@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8EA14447-1944-4DBC-ADD4-CBE302C3F598@microsoft.com...
> > Thinking of purchasing this OS. Have heard some negative feedback. Would
> > like some reviews by actual users. Thanks.
>

Colin
Sat Dec 23 21:41:46 CST 2006

Flight Sim might run a little better, but that depends on the memory too.
Where a 64bit OS shines is with content creation and memory-heavy technical
work. Office runs pretty much like Office always runs. As native 64bit
apps proliferate, though, the pendulum will swing. With launch five or six
weeks off, I would say that if you want to go 64 think Vista.

"greatsky" <greatsky@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5F42FE87-53DA-4252-82D9-D46F62236860@microsoft.com...
> Thanks Colin. Why would a person need 64bits. My chip is a AMD 64 3800+.
> Will this OS run Office 2003 and Explorer and Flight Sim X at a faster
> speed?
> Thanks.
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>
>> If you don't need 64bits stick with x86. I have never had a blue screen
>> with XP Pro x64 in a year and a half. Very very stable. All of the apps
>> I
>> use work on it and it supports all my devices. Your mileage may vary.
>> Keep
>> in mind that it is not an upgrade of XP Pro. It is an alternative
>> version
>> of XP Pro for those with the need for 64bit addressing.
>>
>> "greatsky" <greatsky@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:8EA14447-1944-4DBC-ADD4-CBE302C3F598@microsoft.com...
>> > Thinking of purchasing this OS. Have heard some negative feedback.
>> > Would
>> > like some reviews by actual users. Thanks.
>>

Charlie
Sun Dec 24 09:21:59 CST 2006

Stable? Extremely. Reliable? Extremely. The right choice for you? That's an
open question. I've been running it in daily use since April of 2006. I love
it. But for some help on making a decision, try this whitepaper:


http://download.microsoft.com/download/B/8/6/B868C664-13FC-4F91-9651-5B6D4F1A2F60/Is_Windows_XP_Professional_x64_Edition_Right_for_Me.doc


--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64

"greatsky" <greatsky@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8EA14447-1944-4DBC-ADD4-CBE302C3F598@microsoft.com...
> Thinking of purchasing this OS. Have heard some negative feedback. Would
> like some reviews by actual users. Thanks.

Aaron
Sun Dec 24 09:46:56 CST 2006

I ran XP x64 on my daily personal PC for almost a year (before switching
recently to Vista x64) and I loved it too. Granted, there was no pressing
reason for me to move to x64, I just wanted to try it out. :-P Although
now that I have 4 GB of RAM in my PC, a 64-bit OS is necessary to make the
most of it.

Using it as a daily personal or work OS is certainly feasible, it just takes
a bit of research before you switch to make sure that there are drivers for
the hardware you need and no major compatibility problems with programs that
you use on a regular basis.

- Aaron

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
news:A1E66CE6-C751-4959-929B-1EC2E7586222@microsoft.com...
> Stable? Extremely. Reliable? Extremely. The right choice for you? That's
> an open question. I've been running it in daily use since April of 2006. I
> love it. But for some help on making a decision, try this whitepaper:
>
>
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/B/8/6/B868C664-13FC-4F91-9651-5B6D4F1A2F60/Is_Windows_XP_Professional_x64_Edition_Right_for_Me.doc
>
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
>
> "greatsky" <greatsky@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8EA14447-1944-4DBC-ADD4-CBE302C3F598@microsoft.com...
>> Thinking of purchasing this OS. Have heard some negative feedback.
>> Would
>> like some reviews by actual users. Thanks.
>

Aaron
Sun Dec 24 09:55:09 CST 2006

I should also mention that there is a trial version available. You should
try it and see how it works for you before you buy it.

- Aaron

"Aaron Kelley" <aaronkelley@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23b0p%23K3JHHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>I ran XP x64 on my daily personal PC for almost a year (before switching
>recently to Vista x64) and I loved it too. Granted, there was no pressing
>reason for me to move to x64, I just wanted to try it out. :-P Although
>now that I have 4 GB of RAM in my PC, a 64-bit OS is necessary to make the
>most of it.
>
> Using it as a daily personal or work OS is certainly feasible, it just
> takes a bit of research before you switch to make sure that there are
> drivers for the hardware you need and no major compatibility problems with
> programs that you use on a regular basis.
>
> - Aaron
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
> news:A1E66CE6-C751-4959-929B-1EC2E7586222@microsoft.com...
>> Stable? Extremely. Reliable? Extremely. The right choice for you? That's
>> an open question. I've been running it in daily use since April of 2006.
>> I love it. But for some help on making a decision, try this whitepaper:
>>
>>
>> http://download.microsoft.com/download/B/8/6/B868C664-13FC-4F91-9651-5B6D4F1A2F60/Is_Windows_XP_Professional_x64_Edition_Right_for_Me.doc
>>
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
>>
>> "greatsky" <greatsky@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:8EA14447-1944-4DBC-ADD4-CBE302C3F598@microsoft.com...
>>> Thinking of purchasing this OS. Have heard some negative feedback.
>>> Would
>>> like some reviews by actual users. Thanks.
>>
>

greatsky
Sun Dec 24 21:34:00 CST 2006

Thanks Aaron. Do you have the link for the trial version?

"Aaron Kelley" wrote:

> I should also mention that there is a trial version available. You should
> try it and see how it works for you before you buy it.
>
> - Aaron
>
> "Aaron Kelley" <aaronkelley@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23b0p%23K3JHHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >I ran XP x64 on my daily personal PC for almost a year (before switching
> >recently to Vista x64) and I loved it too. Granted, there was no pressing
> >reason for me to move to x64, I just wanted to try it out. :-P Although
> >now that I have 4 GB of RAM in my PC, a 64-bit OS is necessary to make the
> >most of it.
> >
> > Using it as a daily personal or work OS is certainly feasible, it just
> > takes a bit of research before you switch to make sure that there are
> > drivers for the hardware you need and no major compatibility problems with
> > programs that you use on a regular basis.
> >
> > - Aaron
> >
> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
> > news:A1E66CE6-C751-4959-929B-1EC2E7586222@microsoft.com...
> >> Stable? Extremely. Reliable? Extremely. The right choice for you? That's
> >> an open question. I've been running it in daily use since April of 2006.
> >> I love it. But for some help on making a decision, try this whitepaper:
> >>
> >>
> >> http://download.microsoft.com/download/B/8/6/B868C664-13FC-4F91-9651-5B6D4F1A2F60/Is_Windows_XP_Professional_x64_Edition_Right_for_Me.doc
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Charlie.
> >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
> >>
> >> "greatsky" <greatsky@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:8EA14447-1944-4DBC-ADD4-CBE302C3F598@microsoft.com...
> >>> Thinking of purchasing this OS. Have heard some negative feedback.
> >>> Would
> >>> like some reviews by actual users. Thanks.
> >>
> >
>
>

greatsky
Sun Dec 24 21:34:00 CST 2006

Thanks, Charlie.

"Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

> Stable? Extremely. Reliable? Extremely. The right choice for you? That's an
> open question. I've been running it in daily use since April of 2006. I love
> it. But for some help on making a decision, try this whitepaper:
>
>
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/B/8/6/B868C664-13FC-4F91-9651-5B6D4F1A2F60/Is_Windows_XP_Professional_x64_Edition_Right_for_Me.doc
>
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
>
> "greatsky" <greatsky@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8EA14447-1944-4DBC-ADD4-CBE302C3F598@microsoft.com...
> > Thinking of purchasing this OS. Have heard some negative feedback. Would
> > like some reviews by actual users. Thanks.
>

greatsky
Sun Dec 24 21:35:01 CST 2006

Thanks Colin.

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

> Flight Sim might run a little better, but that depends on the memory too.
> Where a 64bit OS shines is with content creation and memory-heavy technical
> work. Office runs pretty much like Office always runs. As native 64bit
> apps proliferate, though, the pendulum will swing. With launch five or six
> weeks off, I would say that if you want to go 64 think Vista.
>
> "greatsky" <greatsky@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5F42FE87-53DA-4252-82D9-D46F62236860@microsoft.com...
> > Thanks Colin. Why would a person need 64bits. My chip is a AMD 64 3800+.
> > Will this OS run Office 2003 and Explorer and Flight Sim X at a faster
> > speed?
> > Thanks.
> >
> > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
> >
> >> If you don't need 64bits stick with x86. I have never had a blue screen
> >> with XP Pro x64 in a year and a half. Very very stable. All of the apps
> >> I
> >> use work on it and it supports all my devices. Your mileage may vary.
> >> Keep
> >> in mind that it is not an upgrade of XP Pro. It is an alternative
> >> version
> >> of XP Pro for those with the need for 64bit addressing.
> >>
> >> "greatsky" <greatsky@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:8EA14447-1944-4DBC-ADD4-CBE302C3F598@microsoft.com...
> >> > Thinking of purchasing this OS. Have heard some negative feedback.
> >> > Would
> >> > like some reviews by actual users. Thanks.
> >>
>

Colin
Sun Dec 24 23:27:11 CST 2006

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/facts/trial.mspx

"greatsky" <greatsky@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:64284AC4-D474-4539-9977-E9AC53372422@microsoft.com...
> Thanks Aaron. Do you have the link for the trial version?
>

Benjamin
Mon Dec 25 07:18:15 CST 2006

* greatsky:

> Thinking of purchasing this OS. Have heard some negative feedback. Would
> like some reviews by actual users. Thanks.

I'm using Winxp x64 since it came out mid-2005 together with a 16GB
memory upgrade for my workstation (HP xw8200 Dual XEON 3.6GHz). I'm
still using it, now on a faster machine (HP xw9300 Dual DC Opteron 285,
32GB DDR). The main reason for using x64 Windows is the memory.

Is it stable? Yes, definitely. It's rock solid, I really never had a
single crash since I got it. Is it reliable? Yes, it's also very
reliable. But then, I never ever had a single problem with 32bit Windows
on my machines, too. So it's not surprising that Winxp x64 is running
fine. If you search the net then you'll find that others didn't have the
same positive experience and suffered from several instabilities...

Would I recommened it? Well, that depends. Unlike some rumors 32bit
programs do _not_ run faster on x64 Windows than on the 32bit version.
And the amount of native x64 programs is very small, and there are no
signs that this will change in the foreseeable future. Together with
that, the driver support is very bad. Windows x64 requires x64 drivers,
32bit drivers don't work. And for the majority of hardware out there
there simply are no 64bit drivers.
Besides that, there also are issues with some programs. 16bit programs
don't work, and this also includes the 16bit installers that lots of
older 32bit Windows programs use to get installed. And there are still
issues with some 32bit programs, for example iTunes (the last version
that worked with xp x64 was 6.0.4, newer versions don't even install in
Winxp x64)...

So if you don't really have native x64 programs and/or more than 4GB of
memory I'd strongly suggest to stay with the 32bit Windows versions, be
it xp or the new Vista.

Benjamin

John
Tue Dec 26 15:13:06 CST 2006

Think you have gone crazy :-) but read and follow post above and we'll
reassess.


"GoingCrazy!" <GoingCrazy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A62D5E46-37AF-4736-9363-27293AED3BF9@microsoft.com...
> XP Pro X64 is total crap! Loaded it 2 months ago and not a day goes by
> that
> my computer just shuts down without warning! Can't find help form anyone
> on
> how to fix problem... Do not BUY!!!
>
> "greatsky" wrote:
>
>> Thinking of purchasing this OS. Have heard some negative feedback.
>> Would
>> like some reviews by actual users. Thanks.

Colin
Tue Dec 26 15:35:34 CST 2006

I think you have a local computer problem. XP Pro x64 is known for its
rock-solid stability. You have a hardware issue, possible memory. Reseat
your video and memory cards, reseat the cable connections, and see what you
have.

"GoingCrazy!" <GoingCrazy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A62D5E46-37AF-4736-9363-27293AED3BF9@microsoft.com...
> XP Pro X64 is total crap! Loaded it 2 months ago and not a day goes by
> that
> my computer just shuts down without warning! Can't find help form anyone
> on
> how to fix problem... Do not BUY!!!
>
> "greatsky" wrote:
>
>> Thinking of purchasing this OS. Have heard some negative feedback.
>> Would
>> like some reviews by actual users. Thanks.

Bruce
Tue Dec 26 20:32:39 CST 2006

GoingCrazy! wrote:
> XP Pro X64 is total crap! Loaded it 2 months ago and not a day goes by that
> my computer just shuts down without warning! Can't find help form anyone on
> how to fix problem... Do not BUY!!!
>

Fix your hardware problems, and all will be well.


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Charlie
Wed Dec 27 00:53:46 CST 2006

If you will ANSWER the questions asked you, you'll get help. Since you so
far have refused to actually answer the questions asked, we can't do much
for you.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64


"GoingCrazy!" <GoingCrazy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A62D5E46-37AF-4736-9363-27293AED3BF9@microsoft.com...
> XP Pro X64 is total crap! Loaded it 2 months ago and not a day goes by
> that
> my computer just shuts down without warning! Can't find help form anyone
> on
> how to fix problem... Do not BUY!!!
>
> "greatsky" wrote:
>
>> Thinking of purchasing this OS. Have heard some negative feedback.
>> Would
>> like some reviews by actual users. Thanks.

Dshai
Wed Dec 27 02:35:26 CST 2006

Your issues would appear to be entirely hardware, the operating system, no
matter what it is, will never be able to compensate for a poorly built or
poorly maintained system.

Dshai

"GoingCrazy!" <GoingCrazy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A62D5E46-37AF-4736-9363-27293AED3BF9@microsoft.com...
> XP Pro X64 is total crap! Loaded it 2 months ago and not a day goes by
> that
> my computer just shuts down without warning! Can't find help form anyone
> on
> how to fix problem... Do not BUY!!!
>
> "greatsky" wrote:
>
>> Thinking of purchasing this OS. Have heard some negative feedback.
>> Would
>> like some reviews by actual users. Thanks.

Jane
Wed Dec 27 04:45:51 CST 2006

Our collective crystal ball has gone on a much-needed vacation ;-) It
might even meet up with my braincell <g>

--
Jane, not plain ;) 64 bit enabled :-)
Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ;-)

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
news:CC8FBB19-63A0-4EFC-AB42-23EF54E1F328@microsoft.com...
> If you will ANSWER the questions asked you, you'll get help. Since you so
> far have refused to actually answer the questions asked, we can't do much
> for you.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>
>
> "GoingCrazy!" <GoingCrazy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:A62D5E46-37AF-4736-9363-27293AED3BF9@microsoft.com...
>> XP Pro X64 is total crap! Loaded it 2 months ago and not a day goes by
>> that
>> my computer just shuts down without warning! Can't find help form anyone
>> on
>> how to fix problem... Do not BUY!!!
>>
>> "greatsky" wrote:
>>
>>> Thinking of purchasing this OS. Have heard some negative feedback.
>>> Would
>>> like some reviews by actual users. Thanks.
>

Theo
Wed Dec 27 05:48:04 CST 2006

I think the Army refers to it as a Head Space and Timing
problem! Or, an Operator Malfunction!

I have had my Win x64 running since May 2005 and I can't
recall it ever crashing!


GoingCrazy! wrote:
> XP Pro X64 is total crap! Loaded it 2 months ago and not a day goes by that
> my computer just shuts down without warning! Can't find help form anyone on
> how to fix problem... Do not BUY!!!
>
> "greatsky" wrote:
>
>> Thinking of purchasing this OS. Have heard some negative feedback. Would
>> like some reviews by actual users. Thanks.

John
Wed Dec 27 06:11:57 CST 2006

You are a great employer to allow your brain cell such a long vacation.
Paid vacation I hope.

"Jane C" <jellybean@NOSPAMxjgarage.org> wrote in message
news:782EC59A-E80A-42AF-AE14-1B24E67B1470@microsoft.com...
> Our collective crystal ball has gone on a much-needed vacation ;-) It
> might even meet up with my braincell <g>
>
> --
> Jane, not plain ;) 64 bit enabled :-)
> Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ;-)
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
> news:CC8FBB19-63A0-4EFC-AB42-23EF54E1F328@microsoft.com...
>> If you will ANSWER the questions asked you, you'll get help. Since you so
>> far have refused to actually answer the questions asked, we can't do much
>> for you.
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>
>>
>> "GoingCrazy!" <GoingCrazy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:A62D5E46-37AF-4736-9363-27293AED3BF9@microsoft.com...
>>> XP Pro X64 is total crap! Loaded it 2 months ago and not a day goes by
>>> that
>>> my computer just shuts down without warning! Can't find help form anyone
>>> on
>>> how to fix problem... Do not BUY!!!
>>>
>>> "greatsky" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thinking of purchasing this OS. Have heard some negative feedback.
>>>> Would
>>>> like some reviews by actual users. Thanks.
>>
>

Jud
Wed Dec 27 06:22:18 CST 2006

On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 06:48:04 -0500, Theo <tvf@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:

>I have had my Win x64 running since May 2005 and I can't
>recall it ever crashing!

Ohhh, mine BSOD'ed. Several times! But turned out to be a bad memory-stick
:-D However, come to think of it, recently I installed some software, and
it BSOD'ed during installation. Forget which program it was (just a small
program), because when I tried the installation the 2nd time, all went
fine.

jud

Charlie
Wed Dec 27 12:40:28 CST 2006

All my braincells (both of them) are on vacation and therefore sick as well.
It rarely fails.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64


"Jane C" <jellybean@NOSPAMxjgarage.org> wrote in message
news:782EC59A-E80A-42AF-AE14-1B24E67B1470@microsoft.com...
> Our collective crystal ball has gone on a much-needed vacation ;-) It
> might even meet up with my braincell <g>
>
> --
> Jane, not plain ;) 64 bit enabled :-)
> Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ;-)
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
> news:CC8FBB19-63A0-4EFC-AB42-23EF54E1F328@microsoft.com...
>> If you will ANSWER the questions asked you, you'll get help. Since you so
>> far have refused to actually answer the questions asked, we can't do much
>> for you.
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>
>>
>> "GoingCrazy!" <GoingCrazy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:A62D5E46-37AF-4736-9363-27293AED3BF9@microsoft.com...
>>> XP Pro X64 is total crap! Loaded it 2 months ago and not a day goes by
>>> that
>>> my computer just shuts down without warning! Can't find help form anyone
>>> on
>>> how to fix problem... Do not BUY!!!
>>>
>>> "greatsky" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thinking of purchasing this OS. Have heard some negative feedback.
>>>> Would
>>>> like some reviews by actual users. Thanks.
>>
>