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1. Whats the status about Powertoys (will they be recompiled for x64) if =
so=20
when?
2. Whats the status about the incorrect GPT documentation? (copy of =
message a
below)
They were looking into it... any date on when it will be changed/fixed?
3. When can we expect the Windows Update function to work correctly =
(without=20
the need to open 32-bit IE) in Help & Support?

GPT Thread (confirmed by Joseph, and told it is under investigation)


Hi,

On the following website

http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/platform/64bit/default.mspx

There is some info about 64-bit platforms, but some of the info is only =
discussing=20
IA64 platforms, while its valid for x64, with some exceptions, wich =
aren't told.=20
It was promised that this would be updated by the RTM Release...=20

But some info is not adjusted/changed/added to be valid for x64

- GPT info > Only explaining GPT in IA64 context, most info is valid for =
x64, but not all

GUID Partition Table (GPT) and Master Boot Record (MBR) MBR System Disk =
Conversion for 64-bit Windows (And some pics aren't showing)=20
Windows and GPT FAQ=20



Greetings

Juan Jansen
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Re: Repost: Status on few things by Andre

Andre
Sat May 21 11:29:31 CDT 2005

The same status as they were before.
--

Andre
http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

"Juan Jansen" <winbeta@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23mEdtLfXFHA.3176@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
1. Whats the status about Powertoys (will they be recompiled for x64) if so
when?
2. Whats the status about the incorrect GPT documentation? (copy of message
a
below)
They were looking into it... any date on when it will be changed/fixed?
3. When can we expect the Windows Update function to work correctly (without
the need to open 32-bit IE) in Help & Support?

GPT Thread (confirmed by Joseph, and told it is under investigation)


Hi,

On the following website

http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/platform/64bit/default.mspx

There is some info about 64-bit platforms, but some of the info is only
discussing
IA64 platforms, while its valid for x64, with some exceptions, wich aren't
told.
It was promised that this would be updated by the RTM Release...

But some info is not adjusted/changed/added to be valid for x64

- GPT info > Only explaining GPT in IA64 context, most info is valid for
x64, but not all

GUID Partition Table (GPT) and Master Boot Record (MBR) MBR System Disk
Conversion for 64-bit Windows (And some pics aren't showing)
Windows and GPT FAQ



Greetings

Juan Jansen



Re: Repost: Status on few things by Charlie

Charlie
Sat May 21 12:35:20 CDT 2005

Nothing has changed, nor would I expect them to change. Give everyone a bit
of a break, here. Yes, the docs need to be changed. But as someone who makes
a living writing, and who has dealt with the change process at MS, I can
assure you that it won't happen overnight. :) But given that Joseph said it
was being looked into, I'm reasonably confident that someone will get the
assignment, do the change, and eventually get it through the change process.
On powertoys? Given that they are un-supported, skunkworks projects, they
may, or they may not get done. And certainly no time line will be proposed.
But I'm sure when and if they are available, you see about it here. And on
the last one? Maybe never, maybe sooner. Having to open 32-bit IE is hardly
the end of the world, and I suspect this is fairly low down the list.

--
Charlie.

Juan Jansen wrote:
> 1. Whats the status about Powertoys (will they be recompiled for x64)
> if so
> when?
> 2. Whats the status about the incorrect GPT documentation? (copy of
> message a
> below)
> They were looking into it... any date on when it will be
> changed/fixed?
> 3. When can we expect the Windows Update function to work correctly
> (without
> the need to open 32-bit IE) in Help & Support?
>
> GPT Thread (confirmed by Joseph, and told it is under investigation)
>
>
> Hi,
>
> On the following website
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/platform/64bit/default.mspx
>
> There is some info about 64-bit platforms, but some of the info is
> only discussing
> IA64 platforms, while its valid for x64, with some exceptions, wich
> aren't told.
> It was promised that this would be updated by the RTM Release...
>
> But some info is not adjusted/changed/added to be valid for x64
>
> - GPT info > Only explaining GPT in IA64 context, most info is valid
> for x64, but not all
>
> GUID Partition Table (GPT) and Master Boot Record (MBR) MBR System
> Disk Conversion for 64-bit Windows (And some pics aren't showing)
> Windows and GPT FAQ
>
>
>
> Greetings
>
> Juan Jansen



Re: Repost: Status on few things by Chris

Chris
Sun May 22 13:44:02 CDT 2005

"Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

> Nothing has changed, nor would I expect them to change. Give everyone a bit
> of a break, here. Yes, the docs need to be changed. But as someone who makes
> a living writing, and who has dealt with the change process at MS, I can
> assure you that it won't happen overnight. :) But given that Joseph said it
> was being looked into, I'm reasonably confident that someone will get the
> assignment, do the change, and eventually get it through the change process.
> On powertoys? Given that they are un-supported, skunkworks projects, they
> may, or they may not get done. And certainly no time line will be proposed.
> But I'm sure when and if they are available, you see about it here. And on
> the last one? Maybe never, maybe sooner. Having to open 32-bit IE is hardly
> the end of the world, and I suspect this is fairly low down the list.
>
> --
> Charlie.
>
> Juan Jansen wrote:
> > 1. Whats the status about Powertoys (will they be recompiled for x64)
> > if so
> > when?
> > 2. Whats the status about the incorrect GPT documentation? (copy of
> > message a
> > below)
> > They were looking into it... any date on when it will be
> > changed/fixed?
> > 3. When can we expect the Windows Update function to work correctly
> > (without
> > the need to open 32-bit IE) in Help & Support?
> >
> > GPT Thread (confirmed by Joseph, and told it is under investigation)
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > On the following website
> >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/platform/64bit/default.mspx
> >
> > There is some info about 64-bit platforms, but some of the info is
> > only discussing
> > IA64 platforms, while its valid for x64, with some exceptions, wich
> > aren't told.
> > It was promised that this would be updated by the RTM Release...
> >
> > But some info is not adjusted/changed/added to be valid for x64
> >
> > - GPT info > Only explaining GPT in IA64 context, most info is valid
> > for x64, but not all
> >
> > GUID Partition Table (GPT) and Master Boot Record (MBR) MBR System
> > Disk Conversion for 64-bit Windows (And some pics aren't showing)
> > Windows and GPT FAQ
> >
> >
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> > Juan Jansen
It seems to me that the safest approach is to look for x64 or AMD64 or EM64T
to interpret any reference usable by such platforms ; as far as GPT, I have
seen a few pages on the Microsoft site indicating that it is only applicable
to IA64, and unless the EFI (Intel) BIOS implementation reaches the x64
world, there is no risk of someone using GPT on x64. I agree that someone who
would for instance move a GPT disk from an Itanium to an Opteron machine
might be in for a surprise, but hopefully autochk would not destroy all the
partitions....









RE: Repost: Status on few things by joscon

joscon
Mon May 23 07:06:53 CDT 2005

1. Dont know on PowerToys
2. Said it was being looked into, its been written. Waiting on our
internal processes to get it out online.
3. I can ask around about WU, right now there hasnt been a need for it in
64bit as there arent any updates atm.


Re: Repost: Status on few things by Rafael

Rafael
Mon May 23 07:55:48 CDT 2005

Has anyone tried the PowerToys after replacing the 64-bit shell with the
32-bit one? Would be nice to know.

See
http://www.extended64.com/blogs/bhpaddock/archive/2005/05/22/539.aspx
for details on the shell swap.

Rafael Rivera
Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com

Joseph Conway [MSFT] wrote:
> 1. Dont know on PowerToys
> 2. Said it was being looked into, its been written. Waiting on our
> internal processes to get it out online.
> 3. I can ask around about WU, right now there hasnt been a need for it in
> 64bit as there arent any updates atm.
>

Re: Repost: Status on few things by Charlie

Charlie
Mon May 23 13:15:25 CDT 2005

Sorry, I'm not about to replace the shell. Yes, I know I _can_ do it, but I
think that misses the point. There's no power toy I need enough to start
reducing my shell down to 32 bit. About the only concessions I make are using
the 32-bit IE, and occasionally the 32-bit windows explorer.

--
Charlie.

Rafael Rivera [Extended64.com] wrote:
> Has anyone tried the PowerToys after replacing the 64-bit shell with
> the 32-bit one? Would be nice to know.
>
> See
> http://www.extended64.com/blogs/bhpaddock/archive/2005/05/22/539.aspx
> for details on the shell swap.
>
> Rafael Rivera
> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>
> Joseph Conway [MSFT] wrote:
>> 1. Dont know on PowerToys
>> 2. Said it was being looked into, its been written. Waiting on our
>> internal processes to get it out online.
>> 3. I can ask around about WU, right now there hasnt been a need for
>> it in 64bit as there arent any updates atm.