Recommendations for Windows XP x64 compatible notebook

Hi everyone,

I need a new machine for testing and developing x64 applications. I'd like
to get a notebook though. I assume that the ones which run AMD cpu are a
better choice (compared to Intel 640 series).

My biggest priority is low price. The more I can get for my money the
better.

Can anyone recommend any laptops known to work with it?

I contacted HP but it seems their pavilion series isn't guarrantied to work
with it at all and they have no official upgrade plans.

Thanks in advance.

Andre
Mon Jun 06 13:59:15 CDT 2005

Acer has 64 bit notebooks:
http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/ notebooks/0,39023985,39156022,00.htm

and Alienware also, but I don't think the systems are pre-loaded with
Windows XP Professional x64.
--
Andre
Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

"John Smith" <john.smith@x-formation.com> wrote in message
news:ufsXmQsaFHA.3040@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Hi everyone,
>
> I need a new machine for testing and developing x64 applications. I'd like
> to get a notebook though. I assume that the ones which run AMD cpu are a
> better choice (compared to Intel 640 series).
>
> My biggest priority is low price. The more I can get for my money the
> better.
>
> Can anyone recommend any laptops known to work with it?
>
> I contacted HP but it seems their pavilion series isn't guarrantied to
> work
> with it at all and they have no official upgrade plans.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>

Christian
Mon Jun 06 14:11:50 CDT 2005

Andre Da Costa [Extended64] <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Acer has 64 bit notebooks:
> http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/
> notebooks/0,39023985,39156022,00.htm
> and Alienware also, but I don't think the systems are pre-loaded with
> Windows XP Professional x64.
>
Anyway, as John was speaking about a cheap system, I'm not really sure
Alienware will do it ;);)

Cheers

--
Christian Hougardy (MS XP MVP)
Johannesburg - South Africa
http://msmvps.com/xpditif

John
Mon Jun 06 14:21:00 CDT 2005

> Acer has 64 bit notebooks:
> http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/notebooks/0,39023985,39156022,00.htm
>
> and Alienware also, but I don't think the systems are pre-loaded with
> Windows XP Professional x64.

Thanks for the suggestions. Actually I've been looking at Acer Ferrari 3400
already. I think I will buy this if I don't find any better because I
contacted Acer and they have official x64 support.
However I am honestly not impressed about what I get for my money. The HP
series seems to offer more hardware for same money and atleast here where I
live I will end up paying atleast $800 for the Acer with more crappy
hardware.

-- John

Andre
Mon Jun 06 14:29:30 CDT 2005

Good point Christian. ;-)
--
Andre
Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

"Christian Hougardy" <christian.hougardy@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OesvhusaFHA.616@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Andre Da Costa [Extended64] <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Acer has 64 bit notebooks:
>> http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/
>> notebooks/0,39023985,39156022,00.htm
>> and Alienware also, but I don't think the systems are pre-loaded with
>> Windows XP Professional x64.
>>
> Anyway, as John was speaking about a cheap system, I'm not really sure
> Alienware will do it ;);)
>
> Cheers
>
> --
> Christian Hougardy (MS XP MVP)
> Johannesburg - South Africa
> http://msmvps.com/xpditif
>

M
Mon Jun 06 21:16:57 CDT 2005

If you are willing to hunt up the drivers yourself, the HP zv5000z and the
Compaq R3000 both work fine. As you noted, they are not officially
supported, and as of now, it looks like they will not be, though rumors to
the contrary persist. All the necessary generic drivers are available from
planetAMD64, laptopvideo2go.com and nVidia.

"John Smith" <john.smith@x-formation.com> wrote in message
news:uiUt5zsaFHA.2736@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Acer has 64 bit notebooks:
>> http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/notebooks/0,39023985,39156022,00.htm
>>
>> and Alienware also, but I don't think the systems are pre-loaded with
>> Windows XP Professional x64.
>
> Thanks for the suggestions. Actually I've been looking at Acer Ferrari
> 3400
> already. I think I will buy this if I don't find any better because I
> contacted Acer and they have official x64 support.
> However I am honestly not impressed about what I get for my money. The HP
> series seems to offer more hardware for same money and atleast here where
> I
> live I will end up paying atleast $800 for the Acer with more crappy
> hardware.
>
> -- John
>
>

Charlie
Wed Jun 08 08:59:46 CDT 2005

True, the Ferrari models aren't the cheapest. But let's face it. They ARE the
coolest. That ought to be worth something. And look for the price to come
down on the 3400 now that they've announced the 4000.

--
Charlie.

John Smith wrote:
>> Acer has 64 bit notebooks:
>> http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/notebooks/0,39023985,39156022,00.htm
>>
>> and Alienware also, but I don't think the systems are pre-loaded with
>> Windows XP Professional x64.
>
> Thanks for the suggestions. Actually I've been looking at Acer
> Ferrari 3400 already. I think I will buy this if I don't find any
> better because I contacted Acer and they have official x64 support.
> However I am honestly not impressed about what I get for my money.
> The HP series seems to offer more hardware for same money and atleast
> here where I live I will end up paying atleast $800 for the Acer with
> more crappy hardware.
>
> -- John

Andre
Wed Jun 08 10:58:25 CDT 2005

But then he's going to want the 4000, Charlie, I think you just made the
decision harder. ;-)
--
Andre
Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
news:eOY4UJDbFHA.1384@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> True, the Ferrari models aren't the cheapest. But let's face it. They ARE
> the coolest. That ought to be worth something. And look for the price to
> come down on the 3400 now that they've announced the 4000.
>
> --
> Charlie.
>
> John Smith wrote:
>>> Acer has 64 bit notebooks:
>>> http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/notebooks/0,39023985,39156022,00.htm
>>>
>>> and Alienware also, but I don't think the systems are pre-loaded with
>>> Windows XP Professional x64.
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestions. Actually I've been looking at Acer
>> Ferrari 3400 already. I think I will buy this if I don't find any
>> better because I contacted Acer and they have official x64 support.
>> However I am honestly not impressed about what I get for my money.
>> The HP series seems to offer more hardware for same money and atleast
>> here where I live I will end up paying atleast $800 for the Acer with
>> more crappy hardware.
>>
>> -- John
>
>

Charlie
Wed Jun 08 12:15:38 CDT 2005

Yeah, but the 4000 isn't here yet, and I'll bet it's going to be rather
pricy. I would love it, but I'll settle for none of the above. I've already
got two Tablet PCs here, I don't really NEED another laptop. Want is a
different story, of course.

--
Charlie.

Andre Da Costa [Extended64] wrote:
> But then he's going to want the 4000, Charlie, I think you just made
> the decision harder. ;-)
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
> message news:eOY4UJDbFHA.1384@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> True, the Ferrari models aren't the cheapest. But let's face it.
>> They ARE the coolest. That ought to be worth something. And look for
>> the price to come down on the 3400 now that they've announced the
>> 4000. --
>> Charlie.
>>
>> John Smith wrote:
>>>> Acer has 64 bit notebooks:
>>>> http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/notebooks/0,39023985,39156022,00.htm
>>>>
>>>> and Alienware also, but I don't think the systems are pre-loaded
>>>> with Windows XP Professional x64.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the suggestions. Actually I've been looking at Acer
>>> Ferrari 3400 already. I think I will buy this if I don't find any
>>> better because I contacted Acer and they have official x64 support.
>>> However I am honestly not impressed about what I get for my money.
>>> The HP series seems to offer more hardware for same money and
>>> atleast here where I live I will end up paying atleast $800 for the
>>> Acer with more crappy hardware.
>>>
>>> -- John

Andre
Wed Jun 08 17:31:26 CDT 2005

I know my next laptop is Tablet PC, but I'm waiting until Intel comes out
with their dual core mobile processors next year code name Yonah.
--
Andre
Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
news:uyamx2EbFHA.3032@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Yeah, but the 4000 isn't here yet, and I'll bet it's going to be rather
> pricy. I would love it, but I'll settle for none of the above. I've
> already got two Tablet PCs here, I don't really NEED another laptop. Want
> is a different story, of course.
>
> --
> Charlie.
>
> Andre Da Costa [Extended64] wrote:
>> But then he's going to want the 4000, Charlie, I think you just made
>> the decision harder. ;-)
>>
>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>> message news:eOY4UJDbFHA.1384@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>> True, the Ferrari models aren't the cheapest. But let's face it.
>>> They ARE the coolest. That ought to be worth something. And look for
>>> the price to come down on the 3400 now that they've announced the
>>> 4000. --
>>> Charlie.
>>>
>>> John Smith wrote:
>>>>> Acer has 64 bit notebooks:
>>>>> http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/notebooks/0,39023985,39156022,00.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> and Alienware also, but I don't think the systems are pre-loaded
>>>>> with Windows XP Professional x64.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the suggestions. Actually I've been looking at Acer
>>>> Ferrari 3400 already. I think I will buy this if I don't find any
>>>> better because I contacted Acer and they have official x64 support.
>>>> However I am honestly not impressed about what I get for my money.
>>>> The HP series seems to offer more hardware for same money and
>>>> atleast here where I live I will end up paying atleast $800 for the
>>>> Acer with more crappy hardware.
>>>>
>>>> -- John
>
>

Charlie
Wed Jun 08 18:05:23 CDT 2005

I don't really want or need dual core on a Tablet. For me, the Tablet
experience requires light, and thin. Heavier Tablets don't cut it. And
cooling is a major issue on Tablets, since there just isn't as much physical
area to dissipate heat.

--
Charlie.

Andre Da Costa [Extended64] wrote:
> I know my next laptop is Tablet PC, but I'm waiting until Intel comes
> out with their dual core mobile processors next year code name Yonah.
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
> message news:uyamx2EbFHA.3032@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> Yeah, but the 4000 isn't here yet, and I'll bet it's going to be
>> rather pricy. I would love it, but I'll settle for none of the
>> above. I've already got two Tablet PCs here, I don't really NEED
>> another laptop. Want is a different story, of course.
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>>
>> Andre Da Costa [Extended64] wrote:
>>> But then he's going to want the 4000, Charlie, I think you just made
>>> the decision harder. ;-)
>>>
>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>>> message news:eOY4UJDbFHA.1384@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>> True, the Ferrari models aren't the cheapest. But let's face it.
>>>> They ARE the coolest. That ought to be worth something. And look
>>>> for the price to come down on the 3400 now that they've announced
>>>> the 4000. --
>>>> Charlie.
>>>>
>>>> John Smith wrote:
>>>>>> Acer has 64 bit notebooks:
>>>>>> http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/notebooks/0,39023985,39156022,00.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and Alienware also, but I don't think the systems are pre-loaded
>>>>>> with Windows XP Professional x64.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the suggestions. Actually I've been looking at Acer
>>>>> Ferrari 3400 already. I think I will buy this if I don't find any
>>>>> better because I contacted Acer and they have official x64
>>>>> support. However I am honestly not impressed about what I get for
>>>>> my money. The HP series seems to offer more hardware for same
>>>>> money and atleast here where I live I will end up paying atleast
>>>>> $800 for the Acer with more crappy hardware.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- John

John
Wed Jun 29 00:50:02 CDT 2005

Thank you for everyones interest.

I ended up buying a Amilo 1630:

http://www.fujitsu-siemens.com/products/mobile/notebooks/amilo_a.html

It's quite cool. The biggest problem was the radeon gfx driver which I had
to patch manually to get working.

Thing is even though the OS is final version there are quite alot of other
problems with the software which ofcourse limits the nice feeling of getting
something new. I assume that during the next half year more software will be
compatible with the system though and drivers will become better.

-- John