Rob
Mon Oct 31 10:09:07 CST 2005
Rob Stow wrote:
> Mercury wrote:
>> OT:
>>
>> I just wish the "consumer" AMD / NVIDIA mobos would get beyond the current
>> 4GB physical / whatever other limit is restricting the max installable RAM.
It's not the motherboards that is the limiting factor - it is the
type of RAM.
Plain-vanilla DDR is ill-suited to more than 3 DIMM slots - there
are still lots of people running into problems when they try to
add a DIMM to that fourth slot. It is also ill-suited to large
DIMMS - with 1 GB being the current limit.
Perhaps things will change when the move to socket M2 comes along
next year and we start to see boards with DDR2 slots. However,
so far every P4 and Xeon DDR2 motherboard I've read about is
similar to the DDR boards:
- a cap at 4 DIMM slots for non Registered DIMMs
- DIMMs sizes capped at 1 GB for non-Reg DIMMs
- a requirement for Registered DIMMs if there are more than 4
slots or for DIMMs larger than 1 GB.
(Registered DIMMs are almost always also ECC.)
If you want more than 4 GB with an AMD64 chip *now*, you need a
socket 940 motherboard, an Opteron so you get a memory controller
that can handle registered DIMMs, and some registered DIMMs.
However, single s940 boards never really caught on so the variety
for you to choose from is small, dated, and most of them are
server boards with no AGP or PCIe slots. I doubt many of them
support the dual-core CPUs.
MSI makes a board you might be interested in: the K8N Master
Far2. That is a dualie board close to the low end of the dualie
price range (about $300 US). Nothing says you have to put two
CPUs on it. It has six DIMM sockets - but *all* of them are
attached to the first CPU. Hence you could have theoretically
have a single dual-core Opteron with 12 GB of PC3200 ECC Reg.
And Asus makes a dualie board that sells for a even less.
>> I would like an Opteron system, but I don't need 2 physical CPU's - 2 cores
>> is great (IE X2).
>>
>> Does anyone know of any news on this front? I don't want to splashout
>> $k000's on a new system only to be motherboard limited to 4GB. I want to
>> reduce the # of computers, noise, and overall power consumption (& UPS load)
>> current multiple systems require. Virtual Server needs GB's.
>>
>> They say Vanderpool & Pacifica will be out soon - the first before xmas and
>> the latter early next year... correct?
>>
>> Procrastinate, or get on with it?
>>
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:uqXWTHd3FHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>> I will wait for the RC. Or I may even wait until rtm and step up to new
>>> hardware at the same time. The movement into 64-bits will see a lot of
>>> interesting new hardware by this time next year, especially consumer mobos
>>> with support for large memory and very dense memory sticks. Maybe even
>>> quad-cores, though that still may only be available for workstations and
>>> servers. 2006 is going to be a creative year. It should be fun.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
>>> (Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
>>> news:OjESAuW3FHA.1140@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>> I've still got the old 32-bit box around. But it's a virtual machine
>>>> server only now. :)
>>>>
>>>> As for Vista -- I've loaded several times, and each time decided it just
>>>> wasn't solid enough, yet. I'm expecting to move full time to it in Beta2.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Charlie.
>>>>
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>>>
>>>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>>>>> I am not dual booting with XP x86 either. I chose to just keep the old
>>>>> P4
>>>>> box and work "side-by-side". I am, however, multibooting with other x64
>>>>> operating systems such as Vista x64 (three builds).
>>>>>
>>>>>> Not all of us, John. ;) (well, OK, I do still have a 32-bit partition
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> this machine, but I don't use it and it's only there now for Vista
>>>>>> upgrade scenario testing. )
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've reached the point where there really isn't much of anything I
>>>>>> can't
>>>>>> do in x64 except for disk imaging. Sadly, we're at least a version away
>>>>>> from an x64 solution there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Charlie.
>>>>>>
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John Barnes wrote:
>>>>>>> Almost everyone here does it. Yes, you can dual boot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "DavienC" <DavienC@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:EA4A1D8A-678A-4756-832D-EFA49E0E4174@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>> Is it possible to install Windows XP Professional 64x and Windows XP
>>>>>>>> Professional 32bit on the same machine (perhaps by using 2 HDs
>>>>>>>> instead
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> one) in order to be able to select between the 2 operating Systems at
>>>>>>>> Start
>>>>>>>> Up like you currently can with pretty much any version of Windows ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I hope it is, I would like to be able to keep my 32-bit system for
>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> older applications, get a few more drives and use Windows 64-bit for
>>>>>>>> Recording Studio Applications alone such as Sonar 5 Producer Edition
>>>>>>>> which supports 64x and other Audio tools that will benefit from the
>>>>>>>> increased power.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am currently debating wether or not to install the trial because of
>>>>>>>> this,
>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if I really feel like making an Image of my current
>>>>>>>> system
>>>>>>>> incase I decide 64x isn't for me or for when my trial is up and I
>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> money to purchase it just yet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hopefully somone may answer. Thanks !
>>