Well as seeing today is the 29th of June and tomorrow is the last day of the
month
I assume that our x64 exchange cd's will be shipping today or tommorrow.
The last I heard from Microsoft they would be shipping at the end of June so
I guess we will see.

RE: TAP Program by Steve1077

Steve1077
Wed Jun 29 04:20:03 CDT 2005

Well they said they would ship at the end of May but that never happend so
who knows, any chance of an official date from MS? Or is it the end of July
now? At this rate I'll have Longhorn before XP 64

"Mike" wrote:

> Well as seeing today is the 29th of June and tomorrow is the last day of the
> month
> I assume that our x64 exchange cd's will be shipping today or tommorrow.
> The last I heard from Microsoft they would be shipping at the end of June so
> I guess we will see.
>
>
>

Re: TAP Program by Ronald

Ronald
Wed Jun 29 05:15:54 CDT 2005


"Steve1077" <Steve1077@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8E6C7AB0-430D-48B1-8448-8B4887FBECB6@microsoft.com...
> Well they said they would ship at the end of May

Who is "they" ? Not Microsoft i guess.

>but that never happend so
> who knows,

Anyone who knows, doesn't tell. Anyone who tells doesn't know.

> any chance of an official date from MS?

Yes. On the date of the release of beta 1 itselves. Not sooner (see above)


>Or is it the end of July
> now?

See above.


>At this rate I'll have Longhorn before XP 64

Have a nice day!



> "Mike" wrote:
>
>> Well as seeing today is the 29th of June and tomorrow is the last day of
>> the
>> month
>> I assume that our x64 exchange cd's will be shipping today or tommorrow.
>> The last I heard from Microsoft they would be shipping at the end of June
>> so
>> I guess we will see.
>>
>>
>>



Re: TAP Program by NNBXX

NNBXX
Wed Jun 29 05:52:57 CDT 2005

"Anyone who knows, doesn't tell. Anyone who tells doesn't know."

Lao Tsu ?


"Ronald" <new@reply.only> a écrit dans le message de news:
d9tsa9$tti$1@news3.tilbu1.nb.home.nl...
>
> "Steve1077" <Steve1077@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8E6C7AB0-430D-48B1-8448-8B4887FBECB6@microsoft.com...
>> Well they said they would ship at the end of May
>
> Who is "they" ? Not Microsoft i guess.
>
>>but that never happend so
>> who knows,
>
> Anyone who knows, doesn't tell. Anyone who tells doesn't know.
>
>> any chance of an official date from MS?
>
> Yes. On the date of the release of beta 1 itselves. Not sooner (see above)
>
>
>>Or is it the end of July
>> now?
>
> See above.
>
>
>>At this rate I'll have Longhorn before XP 64
>
> Have a nice day!
>
>
>
>> "Mike" wrote:
>>
>>> Well as seeing today is the 29th of June and tomorrow is the last day of
>>> the
>>> month
>>> I assume that our x64 exchange cd's will be shipping today or tommorrow.
>>> The last I heard from Microsoft they would be shipping at the end of
>>> June so
>>> I guess we will see.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>



Re: TAP Program by Andre

Andre
Wed Jun 29 10:00:47 CDT 2005

Hey, the TAP program doesn't end until July 31st, which means your long wait
for it could be extended into July. ;-)
--
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"Mike" <urlord@satx.rr.com> wrote in message
news:%23OzLLFIfFHA.2372@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Well as seeing today is the 29th of June and tomorrow is the last day of
> the month
> I assume that our x64 exchange cd's will be shipping today or tommorrow.
> The last I heard from Microsoft they would be shipping at the end of June
> so I guess we will see.
>



Re: TAP Program by Kevin

Kevin
Wed Jun 29 12:24:14 CDT 2005

To be fair, you heard from Zomax, not MS.

I wouldn't say this is entirely MS' fault; there's degrees of blame here. I
mean, Zomax has apparently handled plenty of fulfillment projects for MS
before, with little trouble, so I can understand why MS hired them to handle
this. The particular team Zomax has working on this at the moment, on the
other hand, appear to be pretty much useless wastes of space whose only hope
for redemption is hara-kiri.

All kidding aside, is there any way MS can lean on these guys a little
harder to get the job done? They're screwing up your otherwise-good
customer service.



Re: TAP Program by Mark

Mark
Sun Jul 03 09:14:09 CDT 2005

Kevin Lowe got up from the bar and shouted: :
> To be fair, you heard from Zomax, not MS.
>
> I wouldn't say this is entirely MS' fault; there's degrees of blame here. I
> mean, Zomax has apparently handled plenty of fulfillment projects for MS
> before, with little trouble, so I can understand why MS hired them to handle
> this. The particular team Zomax has working on this at the moment, on the
> other hand, appear to be pretty much useless wastes of space whose only hope
> for redemption is hara-kiri.
>
> All kidding aside, is there any way MS can lean on these guys a little
> harder to get the job done? They're screwing up your otherwise-good
> customer service.
>
>

They have obviously taken on more then they can handle.. MS should pull
back the work, and give it out to someone more capable. Perhaps someone
could explain HOW difficult mastering and shipping CD's can actually be,
so that it takes 3 months....

Re: TAP Program by Mike

Mike
Sun Jul 03 09:36:31 CDT 2005

"They" happen to be who the web page says to contact on the Status order
page.
I was told that the TAP cd's would start shipping at the end of June. I had
ordered my
CD on the 2nd day of ordering and my order numer is under 2000. This is now
the beginning
of July and still no change in order status
Has anyone recieved a change in their status saying order has been shipped
or do they all still say Order
Has Been Recieved?


"Ronald" <new@reply.only> wrote in message
news:d9tsa9$tti$1@news3.tilbu1.nb.home.nl...
>
> "Steve1077" <Steve1077@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8E6C7AB0-430D-48B1-8448-8B4887FBECB6@microsoft.com...
>> Well they said they would ship at the end of May
>
> Who is "they" ? Not Microsoft i guess.
>
>>but that never happend so
>> who knows,
>
> Anyone who knows, doesn't tell. Anyone who tells doesn't know.
>
>> any chance of an official date from MS?
>
> Yes. On the date of the release of beta 1 itselves. Not sooner (see above)
>
>
>>Or is it the end of July
>> now?
>
> See above.
>
>
>>At this rate I'll have Longhorn before XP 64
>
> Have a nice day!
>
>
>
>> "Mike" wrote:
>>
>>> Well as seeing today is the 29th of June and tomorrow is the last day of
>>> the
>>> month
>>> I assume that our x64 exchange cd's will be shipping today or tommorrow.
>>> The last I heard from Microsoft they would be shipping at the end of
>>> June so
>>> I guess we will see.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>



Re: TAP Program by NNBXX

NNBXX
Sun Jul 03 09:59:42 CDT 2005

Fisrt day, order number 4xx, and still "Order has been received. You will be
charged at the time of order shipment"
Is this a joke ?

"Mike" <urlord@satx.rr.com> wrote in message
news:ugxOgy9fFHA.2424@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> "They" happen to be who the web page says to contact on the Status order
> page.
> I was told that the TAP cd's would start shipping at the end of June. I
> had ordered my
> CD on the 2nd day of ordering and my order numer is under 2000. This is
> now the beginning
> of July and still no change in order status
> Has anyone recieved a change in their status saying order has been shipped
> or do they all still say Order
> Has Been Recieved?
>
>
> "Ronald" <new@reply.only> wrote in message
> news:d9tsa9$tti$1@news3.tilbu1.nb.home.nl...
>>
>> "Steve1077" <Steve1077@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:8E6C7AB0-430D-48B1-8448-8B4887FBECB6@microsoft.com...
>>> Well they said they would ship at the end of May
>>
>> Who is "they" ? Not Microsoft i guess.
>>
>>>but that never happend so
>>> who knows,
>>
>> Anyone who knows, doesn't tell. Anyone who tells doesn't know.
>>
>>> any chance of an official date from MS?
>>
>> Yes. On the date of the release of beta 1 itselves. Not sooner (see
>> above)
>>
>>
>>>Or is it the end of July
>>> now?
>>
>> See above.
>>
>>
>>>At this rate I'll have Longhorn before XP 64
>>
>> Have a nice day!
>>
>>
>>
>>> "Mike" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well as seeing today is the 29th of June and tomorrow is the last day
>>>> of the
>>>> month
>>>> I assume that our x64 exchange cd's will be shipping today or
>>>> tommorrow.
>>>> The last I heard from Microsoft they would be shipping at the end of
>>>> June so
>>>> I guess we will see.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>



Re: TAP Program by John

John
Sun Jul 03 10:32:58 CDT 2005

At the very least they should extend the TAP program so that those who give
up and get the trial version will still be eligible for the exchange program
after a reasonable time trying the system.


"Mark Gillespie" <mark.gillespie@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OH3Q%23l9fFHA.3656@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Kevin Lowe got up from the bar and shouted: :
>> To be fair, you heard from Zomax, not MS.
>>
>> I wouldn't say this is entirely MS' fault; there's degrees of blame here.
>> I mean, Zomax has apparently handled plenty of fulfillment projects for
>> MS before, with little trouble, so I can understand why MS hired them to
>> handle this. The particular team Zomax has working on this at the
>> moment, on the other hand, appear to be pretty much useless wastes of
>> space whose only hope for redemption is hara-kiri.
>>
>> All kidding aside, is there any way MS can lean on these guys a little
>> harder to get the job done? They're screwing up your otherwise-good
>> customer service.
>
> They have obviously taken on more then they can handle.. MS should pull
> back the work, and give it out to someone more capable. Perhaps someone
> could explain HOW difficult mastering and shipping CD's can actually be,
> so that it takes 3 months....



Re: TAP Program by Rick

Rick
Sun Jul 03 10:58:46 CDT 2005

Gee, if that's the case I may not get mine until next year sometime. My
order finally was posted May 25th and my order number is X1190xxx. I
guess that means my order number is close to one million two hundred
thousand.


NNBXX wrote:
> Fisrt day, order number 4xx, and still "Order has been received. You will be
> charged at the time of order shipment"
> Is this a joke ?
>
> "Mike" <urlord@satx.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:ugxOgy9fFHA.2424@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>
>>"They" happen to be who the web page says to contact on the Status order
>>page.
>>I was told that the TAP cd's would start shipping at the end of June. I
>>had ordered my
>>CD on the 2nd day of ordering and my order numer is under 2000. This is
>>now the beginning
>>of July and still no change in order status
>>Has anyone recieved a change in their status saying order has been shipped
>>or do they all still say Order
>>Has Been Recieved?
>>
>>
>>"Ronald" <new@reply.only> wrote in message
>>news:d9tsa9$tti$1@news3.tilbu1.nb.home.nl...
>>
>>>"Steve1077" <Steve1077@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>news:8E6C7AB0-430D-48B1-8448-8B4887FBECB6@microsoft.com...
>>>
>>>>Well they said they would ship at the end of May
>>>
>>>Who is "they" ? Not Microsoft i guess.
>>>
>>>
>>>>but that never happend so
>>>>who knows,
>>>
>>>Anyone who knows, doesn't tell. Anyone who tells doesn't know.
>>>
>>>
>>>>any chance of an official date from MS?
>>>
>>>Yes. On the date of the release of beta 1 itselves. Not sooner (see
>>>above)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Or is it the end of July
>>>>now?
>>>
>>>See above.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>At this rate I'll have Longhorn before XP 64
>>>
>>>Have a nice day!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Mike" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Well as seeing today is the 29th of June and tomorrow is the last day
>>>>>of the
>>>>>month
>>>>>I assume that our x64 exchange cd's will be shipping today or
>>>>>tommorrow.
>>>>>The last I heard from Microsoft they would be shipping at the end of
>>>>>June so
>>>>>I guess we will see.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Re: TAP Program by NNBXX

NNBXX
Sun Jul 03 12:03:38 CDT 2005

That's the case, unfortunately. Precisely, my order number is X00004xx. But
that doesn't necessarily mean that you'll receive your copy long after me.
My guess is that they'll ship all the copies (almost) at once when the TAP
is over. My two cents...

"Rick" <rick@home.net> wrote in message
news:uUZwYg%23fFHA.1412@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Gee, if that's the case I may not get mine until next year sometime. My
> order finally was posted May 25th and my order number is X1190xxx. I
> guess that means my order number is close to one million two hundred
> thousand.
>
>
> NNBXX wrote:
>> Fisrt day, order number 4xx, and still "Order has been received. You will
>> be charged at the time of order shipment"
>> Is this a joke ?
>>
>> "Mike" <urlord@satx.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:ugxOgy9fFHA.2424@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>
>>>"They" happen to be who the web page says to contact on the Status order
>>>page.
>>>I was told that the TAP cd's would start shipping at the end of June. I
>>>had ordered my
>>>CD on the 2nd day of ordering and my order numer is under 2000. This is
>>>now the beginning
>>>of July and still no change in order status
>>>Has anyone recieved a change in their status saying order has been
>>>shipped or do they all still say Order
>>>Has Been Recieved?
>>>
>>>
>>>"Ronald" <new@reply.only> wrote in message
>>>news:d9tsa9$tti$1@news3.tilbu1.nb.home.nl...
>>>
>>>>"Steve1077" <Steve1077@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:8E6C7AB0-430D-48B1-8448-8B4887FBECB6@microsoft.com...
>>>>
>>>>>Well they said they would ship at the end of May
>>>>
>>>>Who is "they" ? Not Microsoft i guess.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>but that never happend so
>>>>>who knows,
>>>>
>>>>Anyone who knows, doesn't tell. Anyone who tells doesn't know.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>any chance of an official date from MS?
>>>>
>>>>Yes. On the date of the release of beta 1 itselves. Not sooner (see
>>>>above)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Or is it the end of July
>>>>>now?
>>>>
>>>>See above.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>At this rate I'll have Longhorn before XP 64
>>>>
>>>>Have a nice day!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"Mike" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Well as seeing today is the 29th of June and tomorrow is the last day
>>>>>>of the
>>>>>>month
>>>>>>I assume that our x64 exchange cd's will be shipping today or
>>>>>>tommorrow.
>>>>>>The last I heard from Microsoft they would be shipping at the end of
>>>>>>June so
>>>>>>I guess we will see.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>



Re: TAP Program by Andre

Andre
Sun Jul 03 13:32:16 CDT 2005

What they should do is form some agreement with major computer stores such
as Circuit City, Best Buy, CompUSA and other to help handle the exchange for
them, it would work out much better.
--
Andre
Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

"Mark Gillespie" <mark.gillespie@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OH3Q%23l9fFHA.3656@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Kevin Lowe got up from the bar and shouted: :
>> To be fair, you heard from Zomax, not MS.
>>
>> I wouldn't say this is entirely MS' fault; there's degrees of blame here.
>> I mean, Zomax has apparently handled plenty of fulfillment projects for
>> MS before, with little trouble, so I can understand why MS hired them to
>> handle this. The particular team Zomax has working on this at the
>> moment, on the other hand, appear to be pretty much useless wastes of
>> space whose only hope for redemption is hara-kiri.
>>
>> All kidding aside, is there any way MS can lean on these guys a little
>> harder to get the job done? They're screwing up your otherwise-good
>> customer service.
>
> They have obviously taken on more then they can handle.. MS should pull
> back the work, and give it out to someone more capable. Perhaps someone
> could explain HOW difficult mastering and shipping CD's can actually be,
> so that it takes 3 months....



Re: TAP Program by Jupiter

Jupiter
Sun Jul 03 14:49:11 CDT 2005

Andre;
That sounds good.
But it also sounds like a good way to greatly increase the cost since now
the 3rd party store now have to take the time to verify eligibility.
Are people willing to pay the additional costs as well as other costs
associated with such a program?
My guess is that would as a minimum double the current cost (S+H).
Would those stores even be willing and able to take on the task?

If the CDs are not received soon, then something should have been done
differently but adding layers to the process will possibly add more to the
costs than will be received by the benefit.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:O0LhN2$fFHA.2548@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> What they should do is form some agreement with major computer stores such
> as Circuit City, Best Buy, CompUSA and other to help handle the exchange
> for them, it would work out much better.
> --
> Andre
> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
> FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm



Re: TAP Program by Andre

Andre
Sun Jul 03 21:00:00 CDT 2005

Some people placed orders from the 25th of April and its still not there. I
suspect it will arrive, but unexpectedly when you least think it would. You
can use this as a comfort, you have until the end of July 31st.
--
Andre
Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
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"NNBXX" <jbfaure@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:ehKJa$9fFHA.572@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Fisrt day, order number 4xx, and still "Order has been received. You will
> be charged at the time of order shipment"
> Is this a joke ?
>
> "Mike" <urlord@satx.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:ugxOgy9fFHA.2424@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> "They" happen to be who the web page says to contact on the Status order
>> page.
>> I was told that the TAP cd's would start shipping at the end of June. I
>> had ordered my
>> CD on the 2nd day of ordering and my order numer is under 2000. This is
>> now the beginning
>> of July and still no change in order status
>> Has anyone recieved a change in their status saying order has been
>> shipped or do they all still say Order
>> Has Been Recieved?
>>
>>
>> "Ronald" <new@reply.only> wrote in message
>> news:d9tsa9$tti$1@news3.tilbu1.nb.home.nl...
>>>
>>> "Steve1077" <Steve1077@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:8E6C7AB0-430D-48B1-8448-8B4887FBECB6@microsoft.com...
>>>> Well they said they would ship at the end of May
>>>
>>> Who is "they" ? Not Microsoft i guess.
>>>
>>>>but that never happend so
>>>> who knows,
>>>
>>> Anyone who knows, doesn't tell. Anyone who tells doesn't know.
>>>
>>>> any chance of an official date from MS?
>>>
>>> Yes. On the date of the release of beta 1 itselves. Not sooner (see
>>> above)
>>>
>>>
>>>>Or is it the end of July
>>>> now?
>>>
>>> See above.
>>>
>>>
>>>>At this rate I'll have Longhorn before XP 64
>>>
>>> Have a nice day!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> "Mike" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well as seeing today is the 29th of June and tomorrow is the last day
>>>>> of the
>>>>> month
>>>>> I assume that our x64 exchange cd's will be shipping today or
>>>>> tommorrow.
>>>>> The last I heard from Microsoft they would be shipping at the end of
>>>>> June so
>>>>> I guess we will see.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>



Re: TAP Program by Andre

Andre
Sun Jul 03 21:02:42 CDT 2005

Shouldn't be hard if you also let OEM Brands such as Gateway, HP and others
handle exchange programs for their CD's. System builder copies of XP Pro
would then exchanged at Circuit City, Best Buy, CompUSA, trust me, it would
be faster and cost less to Microsoft, people would have had their TAP cd's
since early May if they had followed this procedure.
--
Andre
Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
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"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
news:u%23zVMhAgFHA.3936@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Andre;
> That sounds good.
> But it also sounds like a good way to greatly increase the cost since now
> the 3rd party store now have to take the time to verify eligibility.
> Are people willing to pay the additional costs as well as other costs
> associated with such a program?
> My guess is that would as a minimum double the current cost (S+H).
> Would those stores even be willing and able to take on the task?
>
> If the CDs are not received soon, then something should have been done
> differently but adding layers to the process will possibly add more to the
> costs than will be received by the benefit.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:O0LhN2$fFHA.2548@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> What they should do is form some agreement with major computer stores
>> such as Circuit City, Best Buy, CompUSA and other to help handle the
>> exchange for them, it would work out much better.
>> --
>> Andre
>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>> FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
>
>



Re: TAP Program by Jupiter

Jupiter
Sun Jul 03 21:34:14 CDT 2005

Andre;
With the OEMs there is one source each to inform and train on the proper
procedure if they choose to participate.
Is it possible the retailers you mentioned were asked but would not under
the terms required?
I have no idea, just another theory.
How many of each of those stores are there?
The number of stores alone could be the source of added expense.

I think the idea of the current process is the best economically for
everyone.
But it needs to be fixed so it works smoothly from sign up to fulfillment.
Right now there are too many questions indicative of bad communication from
fulfillment as well what seems like excessive delays.
Better communication could help a lot.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OMpb6xDgFHA.3448@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Shouldn't be hard if you also let OEM Brands such as Gateway, HP and
> others handle exchange programs for their CD's. System builder copies of
> XP Pro would then exchanged at Circuit City, Best Buy, CompUSA, trust me,
> it would be faster and cost less to Microsoft, people would have had their
> TAP cd's since early May if they had followed this procedure.
> --
> Andre
> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
> FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
>
> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
> news:u%23zVMhAgFHA.3936@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Andre;
>> That sounds good.
>> But it also sounds like a good way to greatly increase the cost since now
>> the 3rd party store now have to take the time to verify eligibility.
>> Are people willing to pay the additional costs as well as other costs
>> associated with such a program?
>> My guess is that would as a minimum double the current cost (S+H).
>> Would those stores even be willing and able to take on the task?
>>
>> If the CDs are not received soon, then something should have been done
>> differently but adding layers to the process will possibly add more to
>> the costs than will be received by the benefit.
>>
>> --
>> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
>> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
>> http://www.dts-l.org



Re: TAP Program by Andre

Andre
Mon Jul 04 10:10:40 CDT 2005

Well, lets work on getting rid of Zomax then. :-)
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"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
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> Andre;
> With the OEMs there is one source each to inform and train on the proper
> procedure if they choose to participate.
> Is it possible the retailers you mentioned were asked but would not under
> the terms required?
> I have no idea, just another theory.
> How many of each of those stores are there?
> The number of stores alone could be the source of added expense.
>
> I think the idea of the current process is the best economically for
> everyone.
> But it needs to be fixed so it works smoothly from sign up to fulfillment.
> Right now there are too many questions indicative of bad communication
> from fulfillment as well what seems like excessive delays.
> Better communication could help a lot.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OMpb6xDgFHA.3448@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Shouldn't be hard if you also let OEM Brands such as Gateway, HP and
>> others handle exchange programs for their CD's. System builder copies of
>> XP Pro would then exchanged at Circuit City, Best Buy, CompUSA, trust me,
>> it would be faster and cost less to Microsoft, people would have had
>> their TAP cd's since early May if they had followed this procedure.
>> --
>> Andre
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>>
>> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
>> news:u%23zVMhAgFHA.3936@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>> Andre;
>>> That sounds good.
>>> But it also sounds like a good way to greatly increase the cost since
>>> now the 3rd party store now have to take the time to verify eligibility.
>>> Are people willing to pay the additional costs as well as other costs
>>> associated with such a program?
>>> My guess is that would as a minimum double the current cost (S+H).
>>> Would those stores even be willing and able to take on the task?
>>>
>>> If the CDs are not received soon, then something should have been done
>>> differently but adding layers to the process will possibly add more to
>>> the costs than will be received by the benefit.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
>>> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
>>> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>



Re: TAP Program by The

The
Mon Jul 04 10:57:57 CDT 2005

Zomax Incorporated (NASD:ZOMX)
Sector: Technology
Industry: Computer Services
Website: http://www.zomax.com
Zomax Incorporated helps companies bring their products and content to the
market. The Company enhances the process of sourcing, production, and
fulfillment through a modular suite of supply chain outsourcing services.
Zomax has demonstrated the ability to provide quality products and services
in a just-in-time (JIT) model. The Company markets and sells outsourced
supply chain services to customers in a variety of markets. Zomax's
outsourcing solutions enhance the process of sourcing, production, and
fulfillment through a modular suite of supply chain services that enable
customers to select the combination of services that best meet their needs.
The Company's services are delivered from a network of 11 facilities across
the United States, Mexico, Canada and Ireland.

BRIEF: Zomax Inc. is an outsource provider of process management services to
software publishers, computer manufacturers and other producers of
multimedia products. For the 3 months ended 4/1/05, sales fell 16% to
$42.2M. Net loss totaled $4.1M, up from $1.5M. Revenues reflect a decrease
in media unit volume due to the timing and size of customer product
launches. Net loss also reflects a lower gross profit due to lower capacity
utilization.

Zomax Incorporated
5353 Nathan Lane
Plymouth, MN 55442
United States

Phone: 1-763-5539300
Fax: 1-763-5530826
Contact Title: Director of Investor Relations
Contact Phone: 1-763-5539300
E-mail: information@zomax.com

Website: http://www.zomax.com
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Employees: 1300
Officers: Liszt, Howard P., Chairman of the Board
Angelini, Anthony, President, Chief Executive Officer, Director
Rueckl, Robert J., Chief Financial Officer, Executive Vice President,
Secretary
Miller, Michael L., Executive Vice President-Service Operations and Business
Development


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"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Well, lets work on getting rid of Zomax then. :-)
> --
> Andre
> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
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>
> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23JBHjDEgFHA.3936@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> Andre;
>> With the OEMs there is one source each to inform and train on the proper
>> procedure if they choose to participate.
>> Is it possible the retailers you mentioned were asked but would not under
>> the terms required?
>> I have no idea, just another theory.
>> How many of each of those stores are there?
>> The number of stores alone could be the source of added expense.
>>
>> I think the idea of the current process is the best economically for
>> everyone.
>> But it needs to be fixed so it works smoothly from sign up to
>> fulfillment.
>> Right now there are too many questions indicative of bad communication
>> from fulfillment as well what seems like excessive delays.
>> Better communication could help a lot.
>>
>> --
>> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
>> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
>> http://www.dts-l.org
>>
>>
>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:OMpb6xDgFHA.3448@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>> Shouldn't be hard if you also let OEM Brands such as Gateway, HP and
>>> others handle exchange programs for their CD's. System builder copies of
>>> XP Pro would then exchanged at Circuit City, Best Buy, CompUSA, trust
>>> me, it would be faster and cost less to Microsoft, people would have had
>>> their TAP cd's since early May if they had followed this procedure.
>>> --
>>> Andre
>>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>> FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
>>>
>>> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:u%23zVMhAgFHA.3936@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>> Andre;
>>>> That sounds good.
>>>> But it also sounds like a good way to greatly increase the cost since
>>>> now the 3rd party store now have to take the time to verify
>>>> eligibility.
>>>> Are people willing to pay the additional costs as well as other costs
>>>> associated with such a program?
>>>> My guess is that would as a minimum double the current cost (S+H).
>>>> Would those stores even be willing and able to take on the task?
>>>>
>>>> If the CDs are not received soon, then something should have been done
>>>> differently but adding layers to the process will possibly add more to
>>>> the costs than will be received by the benefit.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
>>>> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
>>>> http://www.dts-l.org
>>
>>
>
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