Perhaps you'd better sit down now!

Hi, all.

I just recieved some shocking news - well, let's call it a rumour, at this
stage. Word is out that none of the current line of graphics cards will be
upgradeable to accomodate DX10 - such that they will all in fact be
worthless the day DX10 ships.

Is there any bit of truth in that? Any way to find out?

I sure hope that this is yet another misinterpretation of the term
'backwards compatibility', which could mean that DX10 being installed it
would still be running an upgraded form of DX9 and not taking advantage of
the upgraded DX10 specifics.

What ya' all say?


Tony. . .

Yak64
Sat Aug 19 16:36:21 CDT 2006

Just a thought - would they be able to write DX-10 at all if at least
*some* of the current crop wasn't able todo DX-10 things?

I don't expect my nv6200 to work mind...


>On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 22:40:23 +0200, "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote:

>Hi, all.
>
>I just recieved some shocking news - well, let's call it a rumour, at this
>stage. Word is out that none of the current line of graphics cards will be
>upgradeable to accomodate DX10 - such that they will all in fact be
>worthless the day DX10 ships.
>
>Is there any bit of truth in that? Any way to find out?
>
>I sure hope that this is yet another misinterpretation of the term
>'backwards compatibility', which could mean that DX10 being installed it
>would still be running an upgraded form of DX9 and not taking advantage of
>the upgraded DX10 specifics.
>
>What ya' all say?
>
>
>Tony. . .
>

Colin
Sat Aug 19 16:35:04 CDT 2006

I believe that is correct information in so far as DX10 but I wouldn't worry
about a card being useless. DX10 will support the earlier versions.

"Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message
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> Hi, all.
>
> I just recieved some shocking news - well, let's call it a rumour, at this
> stage. Word is out that none of the current line of graphics cards will be
> upgradeable to accomodate DX10 - such that they will all in fact be
> worthless the day DX10 ships.
>
> Is there any bit of truth in that? Any way to find out?
>
> I sure hope that this is yet another misinterpretation of the term
> 'backwards compatibility', which could mean that DX10 being installed it
> would still be running an upgraded form of DX9 and not taking advantage of
> the upgraded DX10 specifics.
>
> What ya' all say?
>
>
> Tony. . .
>
>

Aaron
Sat Aug 19 16:50:20 CDT 2006

Current cards will work fine with DX10 installed. They won't be able to use
any new DX10 specific features. For instance, DirectX 9 added the pixel
shader 2.0 effect, which requires hardware support for applications to use
it. (I don't really know what is new in DX10.)

I guess it's up to developers to decide which hardware features they want to
require for apps or games to run, regardless of the version of DirectX. You
should be able to install DX10 and run applications that use new featuers in
the DX10 API, and everything should fine as long as the application does not
use any new DX10 features that require new hardware support.

This is just my understanding of things, I don't really call myself an
expert. I might be wrong. :-P

- Aaron

"Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message
news:OOVt7%238wGHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Hi, all.
>
> I just recieved some shocking news - well, let's call it a rumour, at this
> stage. Word is out that none of the current line of graphics cards will be
> upgradeable to accomodate DX10 - such that they will all in fact be
> worthless the day DX10 ships.
>
> Is there any bit of truth in that? Any way to find out?
>
> I sure hope that this is yet another misinterpretation of the term
> 'backwards compatibility', which could mean that DX10 being installed it
> would still be running an upgraded form of DX9 and not taking advantage of
> the upgraded DX10 specifics.
>
> What ya' all say?
>
>
> Tony. . .
>
>

Dominic
Sat Aug 19 17:08:13 CDT 2006

To get the most from DX10 the card's hardware will have to meet DX10
specifications.

There will be software emulation, at a price in system resources, so that at
least cards with DX9 hardware can run DX10. Cards which have DX8 and earlier
hardware may not be able to run DX10 well or at all.


"Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message
news:OOVt7%238wGHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Hi, all.
>
> I just recieved some shocking news - well, let's call it a rumour, at this
> stage. Word is out that none of the current line of graphics cards will be
> upgradeable to accomodate DX10 - such that they will all in fact be
> worthless the day DX10 ships.
>
> Is there any bit of truth in that? Any way to find out?
>
> I sure hope that this is yet another misinterpretation of the term
> 'backwards compatibility', which could mean that DX10 being installed it
> would still be running an upgraded form of DX9 and not taking advantage of
> the upgraded DX10 specifics.
>
> What ya' all say?
>
>
> Tony. . .
>
>

Colin
Sun Aug 20 00:44:34 CDT 2006

Pixel shader 3 if I remember right.

"Aaron Kelley" <a_kelley@baylor.edu> wrote in message
news:e1Yr4l9wGHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Current cards will work fine with DX10 installed. They won't be able to
> use any new DX10 specific features. For instance, DirectX 9 added the
> pixel shader 2.0 effect, which requires hardware support for applications
> to use it. (I don't really know what is new in DX10.)
>
> I guess it's up to developers to decide which hardware features they want
> to require for apps or games to run, regardless of the version of DirectX.
> You should be able to install DX10 and run applications that use new
> featuers in the DX10 API, and everything should fine as long as the
> application does not use any new DX10 features that require new hardware
> support.
>
> This is just my understanding of things, I don't really call myself an
> expert. I might be wrong. :-P
>
> - Aaron
>
> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message
> news:OOVt7%238wGHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Hi, all.
>>
>> I just recieved some shocking news - well, let's call it a rumour, at
>> this
>> stage. Word is out that none of the current line of graphics cards will
>> be
>> upgradeable to accomodate DX10 - such that they will all in fact be
>> worthless the day DX10 ships.
>>
>> Is there any bit of truth in that? Any way to find out?
>>
>> I sure hope that this is yet another misinterpretation of the term
>> 'backwards compatibility', which could mean that DX10 being installed it
>> would still be running an upgraded form of DX9 and not taking advantage
>> of
>> the upgraded DX10 specifics.
>>
>> What ya' all say?
>>
>>
>> Tony. . .
>>
>>
>
>

Tony
Sun Aug 20 05:54:51 CDT 2006

Alright, more or less all of you managed to confirm my own suspicions. I
assume we may prepare for at least the major selling point of DX10 to be
missing and remain un-upgradeable from the old crop, the older the crop -
the more will be missing!

At least, I am very glad that I didn't rush out and invest in two dual core
cards for a new SLI enabled system. A new version of DX wouldn't necessarily
have allerted my attention, although it should have.

Thanks, lads!

Tony. . .


"Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message
news:OOVt7%238wGHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Hi, all.
>
> I just recieved some shocking news - well, let's call it a rumour, at this
> stage. Word is out that none of the current line of graphics cards will be
> upgradeable to accomodate DX10 - such that they will all in fact be
> worthless the day DX10 ships.
>
> Is there any bit of truth in that? Any way to find out?
>
> I sure hope that this is yet another misinterpretation of the term
> 'backwards compatibility', which could mean that DX10 being installed it
> would still be running an upgraded form of DX9 and not taking advantage of
> the upgraded DX10 specifics.
>
> What ya' all say?
>
>
> Tony. . .
>
>