Andre
Mon Jul 04 10:09:09 CDT 2005
I think I read in an Interview, Bob Muglia said that there won't be a need
for Virtual Server in near future, so there are a lot of changes expected to
take place, but this is specifically on the Server side, and I suspect you
could call it more of a evolution of the technology itself, on difference
being that its a core part of the operating system in a powerful new way.
Virtual PC on the client side will be around for a good while.
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"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(nojunk)@msn.com> wrote in message
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> It certainly looks very interesting. In the long run hardware support
> from Intel and AMD should shape things. The performance would be
> terrific, but it would also restrict usage to newer hardware that enables
> it. The question is, how far will VPC (the application) progress on
> current 64-bit hardware before virtualization takes a new direction? I
> hope we get to a 64-bit application at least. I can live with 32-bit
> guests.
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> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>I say the future looks very promising. :-)
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>> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(nojunk)@msn.com> wrote in message
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>>> It's really easy to mix things up. There is VPC (the application) and
>>> what platforms can host it. Then there is VPC (the environment) and
>>> what platforms can be guests.
>>>
>>> At this point, Virtual Server SP1 can run 32-bit guests on a 64-bit
>>> host. So I would think that first up for VPC would be to run 32-bit
>>> guests on an x64 host, but keep in mind there have been no announcements
>>> of such a product.
>>>
>>> I don't see running 64-bit guests in VPC any time soon. The one problem
>>> is to get VPC (the application) to run on x64. It just seems logical
>>> that that would happen.
>>>
>>> The other problem is running 64-bit guests in VPC. That is a lot more
>>> complicated because it requires emulating a 64-bit compatible
>>> motherboard chipset, bus, cards, etc., as well as virtualizing a 64-bit
>>> cpu.
>>>
>>> And then there is the consideration that the cpu makers are moving ahead
>>> on adding virtualization features to their future chips, so who knows
>>> how this will all come about?
>>>
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>>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>>I think I was confusing virtualizing the processor to work on 32 bit
>>>>processors so you could run Window x64 as a guess on Windows XP 32 bit.
>>>>Will that also happend Colin?
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>>>>> Why wouldn't the same issues exist with 32-bit processors already? In
>>>>> any case, both Intel and AMD are working on virtualization support in
>>>>> their future cpu's so they can hardly be concerned. I think it is a
>>>>> matter of time and priorities until x64 is supported as a guest. And
>>>>> then there would be the question of what hardware to emulate and write
>>>>> 64-bit drivers. Anyway, I certainly would like to see some 64-bit
>>>>> *nix's running in Windows x64 (just for the fun of it, don't you
>>>>> know).
>>>>>
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>>>>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>> Great to have you back with us Christian! Anyway, I don't think
>>>>>> Microsoft will support Windows XP Professional x64 or any future of
>>>>>> versions of Windows x64 as a guest OS, because I think it has
>>>>>> something do with virtualizing the CPU to support it and that would
>>>>>> probably cause some licensing issues and make AMD or Intel upset,
>>>>>> because it would seem as if Microsoft is lowering their market.
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>>>>>>> Colin Barnhorst <colinbarharst(nojunk)@msn.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> No news on VPC x64 (or whatever it will be called) which can be
>>>>>>>> discussed. Since Virtual Server SP1 beta supports hosting VS on
>>>>>>>> Server 2003 x64 one hopes VPC can be hosted on XP x64 sooner rather
>>>>>>>> than later. In the interim I suppose one can try out the VS SP1
>>>>>>>> beta
>>>>>>>> on XP x64 and see how it goes with various guest OS's. (That
>>>>>>>> assumes
>>>>>>>> access to Virtual Server 2005, of course). VPC for x64 is probably
>>>>>>>> not as critical an issue as getting the server side going anyway.
>>>>>>>> But it would be really nice to have.
>>>>>>> Hi Colin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's working well, shame I cannot install any x64 OS, just have to
>>>>>>> wait a bit for that, otherwise, Virtual Server, once you know how to
>>>>>>> do it, is great
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> Christian Hougardy (MS XP MVP)
>>>>>>> (Ruiselde - Belgium)
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