Messenger clients? What's everyone use?

Seeing as how Messenger Live won't run on x64 or on servers...

S
Mon May 05 11:20:39 PDT 2008

On May 5, 11:14=A0am, "Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SP...@cdir.ca> wrote:
> Seeing as how Messenger Live won't run on x64 or on servers...

Really?

http://www.techspot.com/blog/129/how-to-run-windows-live-messenger-on-window=
s-xp-x64/

THE INTERNET HAS LIED TO ME AGAIN!

(actually I ran Live Messenger 8.5 on XP64 without issues thanks to
this)

Gary
Mon May 05 11:39:15 PDT 2008

Cool!

So is RDP supported as well?

TIA.


"S.SubZero" <ssubzero@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1b74ac6f-01c2-41ad-b55d-793f70ad853e@w34g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
On May 5, 11:14 am, "Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SP...@cdir.ca> wrote:
> Seeing as how Messenger Live won't run on x64 or on servers...

Really?

http://www.techspot.com/blog/129/how-to-run-windows-live-messenger-on-windows-xp-x64/

THE INTERNET HAS LIED TO ME AGAIN!

(actually I ran Live Messenger 8.5 on XP64 without issues thanks to
this)

S
Mon May 05 13:04:45 PDT 2008

On May 5, 11:39=A0am, "Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SP...@cdir.ca> wrote:
> Cool!
>
> So is RDP supported as well?
>

RDP? You mean like remote assistance? This has no reason not to
work, and isn't reliant on Messenger.

Gary
Mon May 05 13:23:56 PDT 2008

Well yes and no.

I've had to install Messenger 4.5 alongside a current version of Messenger
in the past to get Remote Assistance/Desktop to work on Small Business
Server.

FWIW, I have to Remote Assistance on the version of Messenger that I have
installed on x64 WXP Pro SP2.



"S.SubZero" <ssubzero@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:0f789c34-2218-4270-a86d-9280eb648c31@u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On May 5, 11:39 am, "Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SP...@cdir.ca> wrote:
> Cool!
>
> So is RDP supported as well?
>

RDP? You mean like remote assistance? This has no reason not to
work, and isn't reliant on Messenger.

Charlie
Mon May 05 15:30:13 PDT 2008

Remote Desktop is completely unrelated to messenger. And yes, XP x64 is
"Professional", so it includes Remote Desktop. Home editions do not include
RDP. Professional and server versions do.

And XP x64 is definitely seen as an RWW endpoint in SBS - I'm an SBS user
(and author) and couldn't live without it.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SPAM-@cdir.ca> wrote in message
news:u9%23G23urIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Well yes and no.
>
> I've had to install Messenger 4.5 alongside a current version of Messenger
> in the past to get Remote Assistance/Desktop to work on Small Business
> Server.
>
> FWIW, I have to Remote Assistance on the version of Messenger that I have
> installed on x64 WXP Pro SP2.
>
>
>
> "S.SubZero" <ssubzero@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:0f789c34-2218-4270-a86d-9280eb648c31@u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On May 5, 11:39 am, "Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SP...@cdir.ca> wrote:
>> Cool!
>>
>> So is RDP supported as well?
>>
>
> RDP? You mean like remote assistance? This has no reason not to
> work, and isn't reliant on Messenger.
>

Gary
Tue May 06 06:36:29 PDT 2008

Inline.

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
news:4AC233FF-91A3-41AE-BEC0-7B18739BF5A8@microsoft.com...
> Remote Desktop is completely unrelated to messenger.

Really!

OK, then how would I use Messenger to assist or take over someone's
computer?

And yes, XP x64 is
> "Professional", so it includes Remote Desktop. Home editions do not
> include RDP. Professional and server versions do.

Understand! It's been like that forever.

>
> And XP x64 is definitely seen as an RWW endpoint in SBS - I'm an SBS user
> (and author) and couldn't live without it.

Didn't mention RWW Charlie; and yes, I'm ALSO able to use RWW and to connect
to my SBS2003 R2 server and workstations using RWW.

BUT... <VBG>... I was asking about Messenger running on X64 WXP Pro and
using Messenger to assist or take over a computer... got any suggestions?

Thanks!



>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>
>
> "Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SPAM-@cdir.ca> wrote in message
> news:u9%23G23urIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Well yes and no.
>>
>> I've had to install Messenger 4.5 alongside a current version of
>> Messenger in the past to get Remote Assistance/Desktop to work on Small
>> Business Server.
>>
>> FWIW, I have to Remote Assistance on the version of Messenger that I have
>> installed on x64 WXP Pro SP2.
>>
>>
>>
>> "S.SubZero" <ssubzero@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:0f789c34-2218-4270-a86d-9280eb648c31@u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> On May 5, 11:39 am, "Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SP...@cdir.ca> wrote:
>>> Cool!
>>>
>>> So is RDP supported as well?
>>>
>>
>> RDP? You mean like remote assistance? This has no reason not to
>> work, and isn't reliant on Messenger.
>>
>

Charlie
Tue May 06 07:00:16 PDT 2008

"Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SPAM-@cdir.ca> wrote in message
news:uha8E53rIHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Inline.
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
> news:4AC233FF-91A3-41AE-BEC0-7B18739BF5A8@microsoft.com...
>> Remote Desktop is completely unrelated to messenger.
>
> Really!
>
> OK, then how would I use Messenger to assist or take over someone's
> computer?
Any version could do that, but again, Remote Desktop isn't Remote
Assistance.

>
> BUT... <VBG>... I was asking about Messenger running on X64 WXP Pro and
> using Messenger to assist or take over a computer... got any suggestions?
>
Actually, you asked about messenger running on XP x64 or SBS. Be careful, or
I'll "out" you to LanWench about running messenger on your server. ;-)

Seriously, any version of messenger will do, and I was really responding to
your "So is RDP supported as well" query. SubZero has pointed at a way to
get messenger working, and that should do what you need.

Lanwench
Tue May 06 08:45:58 PDT 2008

Charlie Russel - MVP <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:
> "Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SPAM-@cdir.ca> wrote in message
> news:uha8E53rIHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Inline.
>>
>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>> message news:4AC233FF-91A3-41AE-BEC0-7B18739BF5A8@microsoft.com...
>>> Remote Desktop is completely unrelated to messenger.
>>
>> Really!
>>
>> OK, then how would I use Messenger to assist or take over someone's
>> computer?
> Any version could do that, but again, Remote Desktop isn't Remote
> Assistance.
>
>>
>> BUT... <VBG>... I was asking about Messenger running on X64 WXP Pro
>> and using Messenger to assist or take over a computer... got any
>> suggestions?
> Actually, you asked about messenger running on XP x64 or SBS. Be
> careful, or I'll "out" you to LanWench about running messenger on
> your server. ;-)

<evil booming laughter>
Did someone mention my name?

>
> Seriously, any version of messenger will do, and I was really
> responding to your "So is RDP supported as well" query. SubZero has
> pointed at a way to get messenger working, and that should do what
> you need.

....and you don't need messenger to offer Remote Assistance from your SBS
box to a domain member computer anyway. Moot point!

Charlie
Tue May 06 09:47:04 PDT 2008

Ah HA! Flushed a lurker out of the woodwork here. <G>

Welcome to my "home" turf. Always a pleasure to have "newbies" here. <g,d,r>

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
<lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OFTRNK5rIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Charlie Russel - MVP <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:
>> "Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SPAM-@cdir.ca> wrote in message
>> news:uha8E53rIHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Inline.
>>>
>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>>> message news:4AC233FF-91A3-41AE-BEC0-7B18739BF5A8@microsoft.com...
>>>> Remote Desktop is completely unrelated to messenger.
>>>
>>> Really!
>>>
>>> OK, then how would I use Messenger to assist or take over someone's
>>> computer?
>> Any version could do that, but again, Remote Desktop isn't Remote
>> Assistance.
>>
>>>
>>> BUT... <VBG>... I was asking about Messenger running on X64 WXP Pro
>>> and using Messenger to assist or take over a computer... got any
>>> suggestions?
>> Actually, you asked about messenger running on XP x64 or SBS. Be
>> careful, or I'll "out" you to LanWench about running messenger on
>> your server. ;-)
>
> <evil booming laughter>
> Did someone mention my name?
>
>>
>> Seriously, any version of messenger will do, and I was really
>> responding to your "So is RDP supported as well" query. SubZero has
>> pointed at a way to get messenger working, and that should do what
>> you need.
>
> ....and you don't need messenger to offer Remote Assistance from your SBS
> box to a domain member computer anyway. Moot point!
>
>

S
Tue May 06 10:15:23 PDT 2008

Messenger isn't required for remote assistance to work, but it's the
way MS likes it to be done. Remote assistance invites are usually
sent via messenger, but can also be sent via email. If you look up
Remote Assistance in Help & Support it shows you how the invites can
be sent.

For just plain controlling a remote XP64 box, you don't need
Messenger. Just have terminal services running. Control Panel-
>System->Remote->"Allow users to remotely connect to this computer"
and specify users. I *think* it works like XP32 Pro, where it only
accepts one user and it locks the console. Control it whenever you
want.

On May 6, 6:36=A0am, "Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SP...@cdir.ca> wrote:
> Inline.
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <char...@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in messagen=
ews:4AC233FF-91A3-41AE-BEC0-7B18739BF5A8@microsoft.com...
>
> > Remote Desktop is completely unrelated to messenger.
>
> Really!
>
> OK, then how would I use Messenger to assist or take over someone's
> computer?

Steve
Tue May 06 10:28:24 PDT 2008

Charlie Russel - MVP wrote:

>Ah HA! Flushed a lurker out of the woodwork here. <G>
>
>Welcome to my "home" turf. Always a pleasure to have "newbies" here.
><g,d,r>

Hmmm, Charlie "Deathwish" Russel... <g>

--
Steve Foster [SBS MVP]
---------------------------------------
MVPs do not work for Microsoft. Please reply only to the newsgroups.

Charlie
Tue May 06 11:29:01 PDT 2008

yeah, I think I may have hit Send a bit too quick. <G>

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Steve Foster [SBS MVP]" <steve.foster@picamar.co.uk> wrote in message
news:xn0fpv8ujgxc3f005@msnews.microsoft.com...
> Charlie Russel - MVP wrote:
>
>>Ah HA! Flushed a lurker out of the woodwork here. <G>
>>
>>Welcome to my "home" turf. Always a pleasure to have "newbies" here.
>><g,d,r>
>
> Hmmm, Charlie "Deathwish" Russel... <g>
>
> --
> Steve Foster [SBS MVP]
> ---------------------------------------
> MVPs do not work for Microsoft. Please reply only to the newsgroups.

Lanwench
Tue May 06 11:36:26 PDT 2008

Charlie Russel - MVP <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:
> Ah HA! Flushed a lurker out of the woodwork here. <G>

Crap. I knew I should've written in my secret invisible font.
>
> Welcome to my "home" turf. Always a pleasure to have "newbies" here.
> <g,d,r>

You can't run fast enough, dude.

>
> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in
> message news:OFTRNK5rIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Charlie Russel - MVP <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:
>>> "Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SPAM-@cdir.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:uha8E53rIHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Inline.
>>>>
>>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>>>> message news:4AC233FF-91A3-41AE-BEC0-7B18739BF5A8@microsoft.com...
>>>>> Remote Desktop is completely unrelated to messenger.
>>>>
>>>> Really!
>>>>
>>>> OK, then how would I use Messenger to assist or take over someone's
>>>> computer?
>>> Any version could do that, but again, Remote Desktop isn't Remote
>>> Assistance.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> BUT... <VBG>... I was asking about Messenger running on X64 WXP Pro
>>>> and using Messenger to assist or take over a computer... got any
>>>> suggestions?
>>> Actually, you asked about messenger running on XP x64 or SBS. Be
>>> careful, or I'll "out" you to LanWench about running messenger on
>>> your server. ;-)
>>
>> <evil booming laughter>
>> Did someone mention my name?
>>
>>>
>>> Seriously, any version of messenger will do, and I was really
>>> responding to your "So is RDP supported as well" query. SubZero has
>>> pointed at a way to get messenger working, and that should do what
>>> you need.
>>
>> ....and you don't need messenger to offer Remote Assistance from
>> your SBS box to a domain member computer anyway. Moot point!

Lanwench
Tue May 06 11:41:44 PDT 2008

S.SubZero <ssubzero@gmail.com> wrote:
> Messenger isn't required for remote assistance to work, but it's the
> way MS likes it to be done. Remote assistance invites are usually
> sent via messenger, but can also be sent via email. If you look up
> Remote Assistance in Help & Support it shows you how the invites can
> be sent.

But if you're logged into an SBS box (at the console or via RD) you can
issue a remote assistance offer to any domain member machine without
Messenger or e-mail.

If I'm not using W2003 (help & support on one of the DCs will bring up the
option to offer remote assistance; SBS has a link built in), I use a third
party solution (www.techninline.net) - they have a special offer for MVPs if
anyone wants to try. I listed this in the private newsgroups a while back.
The price is good and it works like a champ, really.

>
> For just plain controlling a remote XP64 box, you don't need
> Messenger. Just have terminal services running. Control Panel-
>> System->Remote->"Allow users to remotely connect to this computer"
> and specify users. I *think* it works like XP32 Pro, where it only
> accepts one user and it locks the console. Control it whenever you
> want.

Yep - that's Remote Desktop, which is great except for tech support.


>
> On May 6, 6:36 am, "Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SP...@cdir.ca> wrote:
>> Inline.
>>
>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <char...@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>> messagenews:4AC233FF-91A3-41AE-BEC0-7B18739BF5A8@microsoft.com...
>>
>>> Remote Desktop is completely unrelated to messenger.
>>
>> Really!
>>
>> OK, then how would I use Messenger to assist or take over someone's
>> computer?

Charlie
Tue May 06 14:56:13 PDT 2008

Yeah, this bum knee really makes it tough. ;)

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
<lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e0hIZj6rIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Charlie Russel - MVP <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:
>> Ah HA! Flushed a lurker out of the woodwork here. <G>
>
> Crap. I knew I should've written in my secret invisible font.
>>
>> Welcome to my "home" turf. Always a pleasure to have "newbies" here.
>> <g,d,r>
>
> You can't run fast enough, dude.
>
>>
>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in
>> message news:OFTRNK5rIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Charlie Russel - MVP <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:
>>>> "Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SPAM-@cdir.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:uha8E53rIHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Inline.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>>>>> message news:4AC233FF-91A3-41AE-BEC0-7B18739BF5A8@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> Remote Desktop is completely unrelated to messenger.
>>>>>
>>>>> Really!
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, then how would I use Messenger to assist or take over someone's
>>>>> computer?
>>>> Any version could do that, but again, Remote Desktop isn't Remote
>>>> Assistance.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> BUT... <VBG>... I was asking about Messenger running on X64 WXP Pro
>>>>> and using Messenger to assist or take over a computer... got any
>>>>> suggestions?
>>>> Actually, you asked about messenger running on XP x64 or SBS. Be
>>>> careful, or I'll "out" you to LanWench about running messenger on
>>>> your server. ;-)
>>>
>>> <evil booming laughter>
>>> Did someone mention my name?
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Seriously, any version of messenger will do, and I was really
>>>> responding to your "So is RDP supported as well" query. SubZero has
>>>> pointed at a way to get messenger working, and that should do what
>>>> you need.
>>>
>>> ....and you don't need messenger to offer Remote Assistance from
>>> your SBS box to a domain member computer anyway. Moot point!
>
>
>

Gary
Tue May 06 16:20:04 PDT 2008

Inline Charlie.


"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
news:1A7E47CE-7ABB-4328-ACF7-8123F901A1B3@microsoft.com...
> "Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SPAM-@cdir.ca> wrote in message
> news:uha8E53rIHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Inline.
>>
>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
>> news:4AC233FF-91A3-41AE-BEC0-7B18739BF5A8@microsoft.com...
>>> Remote Desktop is completely unrelated to messenger.
>>
>> Really!
>>
>> OK, then how would I use Messenger to assist or take over someone's
>> computer?
> Any version could do that, but again, Remote Desktop isn't Remote
> Assistance.
>
>>
>> BUT... <VBG>... I was asking about Messenger running on X64 WXP Pro and
>> using Messenger to assist or take over a computer... got any suggestions?
>>
> Actually, you asked about messenger running on XP x64 or SBS. Be careful,
> or I'll "out" you to LanWench about running messenger on your server. ;-)

Oh no...<SHUDDERS>

Actaully it was XP x64 and servers... guess that might mean SBS, <VBG>

>
> Seriously, any version of messenger will do, and I was really responding
> to your "So is RDP supported as well" query. SubZero has pointed at a way
> to get messenger working, and that should do what you need.

And actually if ALL you want to do is TYPE you're right although there are
issues with some installers and getting Messenger installed.

But it would seem R/A is NOT supported on x64 WXP.

Regards.


>

Gary
Tue May 06 16:21:48 PDT 2008

Yeah, that's mostly right.

Once you're on the domain you have access to all boxes.

However, if you're trying to help out a stand alone X64 WXP that's a
different story eh! <VBG>

Regards!


"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
<lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:eibUZj6rIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> S.SubZero <ssubzero@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Messenger isn't required for remote assistance to work, but it's the
>> way MS likes it to be done. Remote assistance invites are usually
>> sent via messenger, but can also be sent via email. If you look up
>> Remote Assistance in Help & Support it shows you how the invites can
>> be sent.
>
> But if you're logged into an SBS box (at the console or via RD) you can
> issue a remote assistance offer to any domain member machine without
> Messenger or e-mail.
>
> If I'm not using W2003 (help & support on one of the DCs will bring up the
> option to offer remote assistance; SBS has a link built in), I use a third
> party solution (www.techninline.net) - they have a special offer for MVPs
> if anyone wants to try. I listed this in the private newsgroups a while
> back. The price is good and it works like a champ, really.
>
>>
>> For just plain controlling a remote XP64 box, you don't need
>> Messenger. Just have terminal services running. Control Panel-
>>> System->Remote->"Allow users to remotely connect to this computer"
>> and specify users. I *think* it works like XP32 Pro, where it only
>> accepts one user and it locks the console. Control it whenever you
>> want.
>
> Yep - that's Remote Desktop, which is great except for tech support.
>
>
>>
>> On May 6, 6:36 am, "Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SP...@cdir.ca> wrote:
>>> Inline.
>>>
>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <char...@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>>> messagenews:4AC233FF-91A3-41AE-BEC0-7B18739BF5A8@microsoft.com...
>>>
>>>> Remote Desktop is completely unrelated to messenger.
>>>
>>> Really!
>>>
>>> OK, then how would I use Messenger to assist or take over someone's
>>> computer?
>
>
>

Gary
Tue May 06 16:23:25 PDT 2008

Guess I'll have to give email another try.

Last time I tried that it wasn't as seamless as you make it sound.

Thanks!


"S.SubZero" <ssubzero@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:d8f33fcf-f869-44a5-8c49-afbe4532ba30@w8g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
Messenger isn't required for remote assistance to work, but it's the
way MS likes it to be done. Remote assistance invites are usually
sent via messenger, but can also be sent via email. If you look up
Remote Assistance in Help & Support it shows you how the invites can
be sent.

For just plain controlling a remote XP64 box, you don't need
Messenger. Just have terminal services running. Control Panel-
>System->Remote->"Allow users to remotely connect to this computer"
and specify users. I *think* it works like XP32 Pro, where it only
accepts one user and it locks the console. Control it whenever you
want.

On May 6, 6:36 am, "Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SP...@cdir.ca> wrote:
> Inline.
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <char...@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
> messagenews:4AC233FF-91A3-41AE-BEC0-7B18739BF5A8@microsoft.com...
>
> > Remote Desktop is completely unrelated to messenger.
>
> Really!
>
> OK, then how would I use Messenger to assist or take over someone's
> computer?

Steve
Wed May 07 04:47:28 PDT 2008

Gary J. DIkkema wrote:

>Inline Charlie.
>
>
>"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
>news:1A7E47CE-7ABB-4328-ACF7-8123F901A1B3@microsoft.com...
>>"Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SPAM-@cdir.ca> wrote in message
>>news:uha8E53rIHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>Inline.
>>>
>>>"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
>>>news:4AC233FF-91A3-41AE-BEC0-7B18739BF5A8@microsoft.com...
>>>>Remote Desktop is completely unrelated to messenger.
>>>
>>>Really!
>>>
>>>OK, then how would I use Messenger to assist or take over someone's
>>>computer?
>>Any version could do that, but again, Remote Desktop isn't Remote
>>Assistance.
>>
>>>
>>>BUT... <VBG>... I was asking about Messenger running on X64 WXP Pro and
>>>using Messenger to assist or take over a computer... got any suggestions?
>>>
>>Actually, you asked about messenger running on XP x64 or SBS. Be careful,
>>or I'll "out" you to LanWench about running messenger on your server. ;-)
>
>Oh no...<SHUDDERS>
>
>Actaully it was XP x64 and servers... guess that might mean SBS, <VBG>
>
>>
>>Seriously, any version of messenger will do, and I was really responding
>>to your "So is RDP supported as well" query. SubZero has pointed at a way
>>to get messenger working, and that should do what you need.
>
>And actually if ALL you want to do is TYPE you're right although there are
>issues with some installers and getting Messenger installed.
>
>But it would seem R/A is NOT supported on x64 WXP.

Remote Assistance is not part of Messenger. Messenger provides easy access
*to* Remote Assistance, but you can do RA without Messenger (under All
Programs > Remote Assistance on XP, and under All Programs > Maintenance >
Windows Remote Assistance on Vista).

I'm fairly sure RA is there in XP x64 (check the Remote tab of System
Properties, same as you would for Remote Desktop), but you might find that
Messenger is unable to "drive" it, possibly a casualty of the 32/64 bit
interaction process.

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Steve Foster [SBS MVP]
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Lanwench
Wed May 07 16:57:40 PDT 2008

Gary J. DIkkema <gary_d-NO-SPAM-@cdir.ca> wrote:
> Yeah, that's mostly right.
>
> Once you're on the domain you have access to all boxes.
>
> However, if you're trying to help out a stand alone X64 WXP that's a
> different story eh! <VBG>

Techinline or other software/services....much easier. :-)
>
> Regards!
>
>
> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in
> message news:eibUZj6rIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> S.SubZero <ssubzero@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Messenger isn't required for remote assistance to work, but it's the
>>> way MS likes it to be done. Remote assistance invites are usually
>>> sent via messenger, but can also be sent via email. If you look up
>>> Remote Assistance in Help & Support it shows you how the invites can
>>> be sent.
>>
>> But if you're logged into an SBS box (at the console or via RD) you
>> can issue a remote assistance offer to any domain member machine
>> without Messenger or e-mail.
>>
>> If I'm not using W2003 (help & support on one of the DCs will bring
>> up the option to offer remote assistance; SBS has a link built in),
>> I use a third party solution (www.techninline.net) - they have a
>> special offer for MVPs if anyone wants to try. I listed this in the
>> private newsgroups a while back. The price is good and it works like
>> a champ, really.
>>>
>>> For just plain controlling a remote XP64 box, you don't need
>>> Messenger. Just have terminal services running. Control Panel-
>>>> System->Remote->"Allow users to remotely connect to this computer"
>>> and specify users. I *think* it works like XP32 Pro, where it only
>>> accepts one user and it locks the console. Control it whenever you
>>> want.
>>
>> Yep - th