License issues. . .

Hi!

The time is drawing closer to a lot of new development in technology and I
need to make plans for this. [ If ?] I want to sell off this machine with
the current system (x64) freshly installed, will I need to specifically
un-register in order for the new owner to register it? It is after all an
OEM version and should follow the machine, right?


Tony. . .

Charlie
Mon May 15 09:29:33 CDT 2006

Follows the machine. And "registration" has nothing to do with licensing.
they're two separate issues.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64

Tony Sperling wrote:
> Hi!
>
> The time is drawing closer to a lot of new development in technology and I
> need to make plans for this. [ If ?] I want to sell off this machine with
> the current system (x64) freshly installed, will I need to specifically
> un-register in order for the new owner to register it? It is after all an
> OEM version and should follow the machine, right?
>
>
> Tony. . .

John
Mon May 15 09:49:49 CDT 2006

But remember, you are the system builder and responsible for OEM support.
:-) Have fun with the calls for driver and non-install issues unless you
give them a copy of Charlie's whitepaper and make sure they know the
downside, too.

"Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message
news:OT6ZRyAeGHA.4532@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Hi!
>
> The time is drawing closer to a lot of new development in technology and I
> need to make plans for this. [ If ?] I want to sell off this machine with
> the current system (x64) freshly installed, will I need to specifically
> un-register in order for the new owner to register it? It is after all an
> OEM version and should follow the machine, right?
>
>
> Tony. . .
>
>
>

Bioboffin
Mon May 15 11:31:42 CDT 2006

Any chance of a link to "Charlie's whitepaper"?

Please...

John.


John Barnes wrote:
> But remember, you are the system builder and responsible for OEM
> support. :-) Have fun with the calls for driver and non-install
> issues unless you give them a copy of Charlie's whitepaper and make
> sure they know the downside, too.
>
> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message
> news:OT6ZRyAeGHA.4532@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Hi!
>>
>> The time is drawing closer to a lot of new development in technology
>> and I need to make plans for this. [ If ?] I want to sell off this
>> machine with the current system (x64) freshly installed, will I need
>> to specifically un-register in order for the new owner to register
>> it? It is after all an OEM version and should follow the machine,
>> right? Tony. . .

Andre
Mon May 15 11:39:03 CDT 2006

http://download.microsoft.com/download/B/8/6/B868C664-13FC-4F91-9651-5B6D4F1A2F60/Is_Windows_XP_Professional_x64_Edition_Right_for_Me.doc
--
--
Andre
Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta

"Bioboffin" <Reply_to_Group_please@zzz.invalid> wrote in message
news:OMR8K0DeGHA.1856@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Any chance of a link to "Charlie's whitepaper"?
>
> Please...
>
> John.
>
>
> John Barnes wrote:
>> But remember, you are the system builder and responsible for OEM
>> support. :-) Have fun with the calls for driver and non-install
>> issues unless you give them a copy of Charlie's whitepaper and make
>> sure they know the downside, too.
>>
>> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message
>> news:OT6ZRyAeGHA.4532@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> The time is drawing closer to a lot of new development in technology
>>> and I need to make plans for this. [ If ?] I want to sell off this
>>> machine with the current system (x64) freshly installed, will I need
>>> to specifically un-register in order for the new owner to register
>>> it? It is after all an OEM version and should follow the machine,
>>> right? Tony. . .
>
>

Tony
Mon May 15 12:46:58 CDT 2006

Sure, John! I am a decent and fair trader - I take on all responsibilities
and move to an unknown location!

Tony. . .


"John Barnes" <jbfoofy@email.net> wrote in message
news:eNM1V7CeGHA.1456@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> But remember, you are the system builder and responsible for OEM support.
> :-) Have fun with the calls for driver and non-install issues unless you
> give them a copy of Charlie's whitepaper and make sure they know the
> downside, too.
>
> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message
> news:OT6ZRyAeGHA.4532@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Hi!
>>
>> The time is drawing closer to a lot of new development in technology and
>> I need to make plans for this. [ If ?] I want to sell off this machine
>> with the current system (x64) freshly installed, will I need to
>> specifically un-register in order for the new owner to register it? It is
>> after all an OEM version and should follow the machine, right?
>>
>>
>> Tony. . .
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Tony
Mon May 15 13:00:35 CDT 2006

Ah, yes of course, but will MS's servers develop immidiate amnesia if
someone else fills in the form all of a suddy?


Tony. . .

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
news:uxlP9vCeGHA.1456@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Follows the machine. And "registration" has nothing to do with licensing.
> they're two separate issues.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>
> Tony Sperling wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> The time is drawing closer to a lot of new development in technology and
>> I
>> need to make plans for this. [ If ?] I want to sell off this machine with
>> the current system (x64) freshly installed, will I need to specifically
>> un-register in order for the new owner to register it? It is after all an
>> OEM version and should follow the machine, right?
>>
>>
>> Tony. . .
>
>

Charlie
Mon May 15 13:15:18 CDT 2006

No, hardly. Seriously, the license is with the machine. And stays with it.
And for these purposes, the "machine" is defined as the motherboard. Swap
that out, and you've changed the machine. Unless, of course, the mobo is
swapped under warranty.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64

Tony Sperling wrote:
> Ah, yes of course, but will MS's servers develop immidiate amnesia if
> someone else fills in the form all of a suddy?
>
>
> Tony. . .
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
> news:uxlP9vCeGHA.1456@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Follows the machine. And "registration" has nothing to do with licensing.
>> they're two separate issues.
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>
>> Tony Sperling wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> The time is drawing closer to a lot of new development in technology and
>>> I
>>> need to make plans for this. [ If ?] I want to sell off this machine
>>> with the current system (x64) freshly installed, will I need to
>>> specifically un-register in order for the new owner to register it? It
>>> is after all an OEM version and should follow the machine, right?
>>>
>>>
>>> Tony. . .

Bioboffin
Mon May 15 14:21:25 CDT 2006

Thanks!

(I had already downloaded it - alzheimers must be setting in!!!)

John.

Andre Da Costa [Extended64] wrote:
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/B/8/6/B868C664-13FC-4F91-9651-5B6D4F1A2F60/Is_Windows_XP_Professional_x64_Edition_Right_for_Me.doc
> --
>
> "Bioboffin" <Reply_to_Group_please@zzz.invalid> wrote in message
> news:OMR8K0DeGHA.1856@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Any chance of a link to "Charlie's whitepaper"?
>>
>> Please...
>>
>> John.
>>
>>
>> John Barnes wrote:
>>> But remember, you are the system builder and responsible for OEM
>>> support. :-) Have fun with the calls for driver and non-install
>>> issues unless you give them a copy of Charlie's whitepaper and make
>>> sure they know the downside, too.
>>>
>>> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message
>>> news:OT6ZRyAeGHA.4532@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi!
>>>>
>>>> The time is drawing closer to a lot of new development in
>>>> technology and I need to make plans for this. [ If ?] I want to
>>>> sell off this machine with the current system (x64) freshly
>>>> installed, will I need to specifically un-register in order for
>>>> the new owner to register it? It is after all an OEM version and
>>>> should follow the machine, right? Tony. . .

Tony
Mon May 15 15:26:00 CDT 2006

O.K. So this means that the registration has no 'weight' on it's own, that
is just a confirmation of who ever is in possesion of the machine, ( and
hence, the license? )

I decidedly do not want to sound as though splitting hairs, but I had
expected the reg. to have some importance with the matter.

Thanks.

Tony. . .


"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
news:O%23KkGuEeGHA.1320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> No, hardly. Seriously, the license is with the machine. And stays with it.
> And for these purposes, the "machine" is defined as the motherboard. Swap
> that out, and you've changed the machine. Unless, of course, the mobo is
> swapped under warranty.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>
> Tony Sperling wrote:
>> Ah, yes of course, but will MS's servers develop immidiate amnesia if
>> someone else fills in the form all of a suddy?
>>
>>
>> Tony. . .
>>
>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
>> news:uxlP9vCeGHA.1456@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Follows the machine. And "registration" has nothing to do with
>>> licensing.
>>> they're two separate issues.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Charlie.
>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>>
>>> Tony Sperling wrote:
>>>> Hi!
>>>>
>>>> The time is drawing closer to a lot of new development in technology
>>>> and
>>>> I
>>>> need to make plans for this. [ If ?] I want to sell off this machine
>>>> with the current system (x64) freshly installed, will I need to
>>>> specifically un-register in order for the new owner to register it? It
>>>> is after all an OEM version and should follow the machine, right?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tony. . .
>
>

Charlie
Mon May 15 18:16:29 CDT 2006

The registration has zero weight for anything. I never register my machines.
I think registration is more for MS's internal marketing and segment
identification needs, frankly.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64

Tony Sperling wrote:
> O.K. So this means that the registration has no 'weight' on it's own, that
> is just a confirmation of who ever is in possesion of the machine, ( and
> hence, the license? )
>
> I decidedly do not want to sound as though splitting hairs, but I had
> expected the reg. to have some importance with the matter.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tony. . .
>
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
> news:O%23KkGuEeGHA.1320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> No, hardly. Seriously, the license is with the machine. And stays with
>> it. And for these purposes, the "machine" is defined as the motherboard.
>> Swap that out, and you've changed the machine. Unless, of course, the
>> mobo is swapped under warranty.
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>
>> Tony Sperling wrote:
>>> Ah, yes of course, but will MS's servers develop immidiate amnesia if
>>> someone else fills in the form all of a suddy?
>>>
>>>
>>> Tony. . .
>>>
>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>>> message news:uxlP9vCeGHA.1456@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Follows the machine. And "registration" has nothing to do with
>>>> licensing.
>>>> they're two separate issues.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Charlie.
>>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>>>
>>>> Tony Sperling wrote:
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>
>>>>> The time is drawing closer to a lot of new development in technology
>>>>> and
>>>>> I
>>>>> need to make plans for this. [ If ?] I want to sell off this machine
>>>>> with the current system (x64) freshly installed, will I need to
>>>>> specifically un-register in order for the new owner to register it? It
>>>>> is after all an OEM version and should follow the machine, right?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tony. . .

Pader
Thu Jun 15 03:20:02 CDT 2006

I have X64 build 5384 and the registration page just hangs. That is, none of
the link points work. So I cannot register anyway. What happens when the
registration date countdown gets to zero?

"Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

> The registration has zero weight for anything. I never register my machines.
> I think registration is more for MS's internal marketing and segment
> identification needs, frankly.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>
> Tony Sperling wrote:
> > O.K. So this means that the registration has no 'weight' on it's own, that
> > is just a confirmation of who ever is in possesion of the machine, ( and
> > hence, the license? )
> >
> > I decidedly do not want to sound as though splitting hairs, but I had
> > expected the reg. to have some importance with the matter.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Tony. . .
> >
> >
> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
> > news:O%23KkGuEeGHA.1320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> No, hardly. Seriously, the license is with the machine. And stays with
> >> it. And for these purposes, the "machine" is defined as the motherboard.
> >> Swap that out, and you've changed the machine. Unless, of course, the
> >> mobo is swapped under warranty.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Charlie.
> >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
> >>
> >> Tony Sperling wrote:
> >>> Ah, yes of course, but will MS's servers develop immidiate amnesia if
> >>> someone else fills in the form all of a suddy?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Tony. . .
> >>>
> >>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
> >>> message news:uxlP9vCeGHA.1456@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >>>> Follows the machine. And "registration" has nothing to do with
> >>>> licensing.
> >>>> they're two separate issues.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Charlie.
> >>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
> >>>>
> >>>> Tony Sperling wrote:
> >>>>> Hi!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The time is drawing closer to a lot of new development in technology
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> I
> >>>>> need to make plans for this. [ If ?] I want to sell off this machine
> >>>>> with the current system (x64) freshly installed, will I need to
> >>>>> specifically un-register in order for the new owner to register it? It
> >>>>> is after all an OEM version and should follow the machine, right?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Tony. . .
>
>
>

Charlie
Thu Jun 15 09:12:31 CDT 2006

Please post Vista activation questions in the appropriate Vista newsgroup.
Thanks.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64


Pader wrote:
> I have X64 build 5384 and the registration page just hangs. That is,
> none of the link points work. So I cannot register anyway. What happens
> when the registration date countdown gets to zero?
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:
>
>> The registration has zero weight for anything. I never register my
>> machines. I think registration is more for MS's internal marketing and
>> segment identification needs, frankly.
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>
>> Tony Sperling wrote:
>>> O.K. So this means that the registration has no 'weight' on it's own,
>>> that is just a confirmation of who ever is in possesion of the machine,
>>> ( and hence, the license? )
>>>
>>> I decidedly do not want to sound as though splitting hairs, but I had
>>> expected the reg. to have some importance with the matter.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Tony. . .
>>>
>>>
>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>>> message news:O%23KkGuEeGHA.1320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> No, hardly. Seriously, the license is with the machine. And stays with
>>>> it. And for these purposes, the "machine" is defined as the
>>>> motherboard. Swap that out, and you've changed the machine. Unless, of
>>>> course, the mobo is swapped under warranty.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Charlie.
>>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>>>
>>>> Tony Sperling wrote:
>>>>> Ah, yes of course, but will MS's servers develop immidiate amnesia if
>>>>> someone else fills in the form all of a suddy?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tony. . .
>>>>>
>>>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>>>>> message news:uxlP9vCeGHA.1456@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Follows the machine. And "registration" has nothing to do with
>>>>>> licensing.
>>>>>> they're two separate issues.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Charlie.
>>>>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tony Sperling wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The time is drawing closer to a lot of new development in technology
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> need to make plans for this. [ If ?] I want to sell off this machine
>>>>>>> with the current system (x64) freshly installed, will I need to
>>>>>>> specifically un-register in order for the new owner to register it?
>>>>>>> It is after all an OEM version and should follow the machine, right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tony. . .

Colin
Thu Jun 15 09:22:12 CDT 2006

It will stop working.

"Pader" <Pader@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0BF39B7C-424B-4B7D-B3BE-88E14A33DADF@microsoft.com...
>I have X64 build 5384 and the registration page just hangs. That is, none
>of
> the link points work. So I cannot register anyway. What happens when the
> registration date countdown gets to zero?
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:
>
>> The registration has zero weight for anything. I never register my
>> machines.
>> I think registration is more for MS's internal marketing and segment
>> identification needs, frankly.
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>
>> Tony Sperling wrote:
>> > O.K. So this means that the registration has no 'weight' on it's own,
>> > that
>> > is just a confirmation of who ever is in possesion of the machine, (
>> > and
>> > hence, the license? )
>> >
>> > I decidedly do not want to sound as though splitting hairs, but I had
>> > expected the reg. to have some importance with the matter.
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > Tony. . .
>> >
>> >
>> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>> > message
>> > news:O%23KkGuEeGHA.1320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >> No, hardly. Seriously, the license is with the machine. And stays with
>> >> it. And for these purposes, the "machine" is defined as the
>> >> motherboard.
>> >> Swap that out, and you've changed the machine. Unless, of course, the
>> >> mobo is swapped under warranty.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Charlie.
>> >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>> >>
>> >> Tony Sperling wrote:
>> >>> Ah, yes of course, but will MS's servers develop immidiate amnesia if
>> >>> someone else fills in the form all of a suddy?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Tony. . .
>> >>>
>> >>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>> >>> message news:uxlP9vCeGHA.1456@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >>>> Follows the machine. And "registration" has nothing to do with
>> >>>> licensing.
>> >>>> they're two separate issues.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Charlie.
>> >>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Tony Sperling wrote:
>> >>>>> Hi!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> The time is drawing closer to a lot of new development in
>> >>>>> technology
>> >>>>> and
>> >>>>> I
>> >>>>> need to make plans for this. [ If ?] I want to sell off this
>> >>>>> machine
>> >>>>> with the current system (x64) freshly installed, will I need to
>> >>>>> specifically un-register in order for the new owner to register it?
>> >>>>> It
>> >>>>> is after all an OEM version and should follow the machine, right?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Tony. . .
>>
>>
>>