Itanium vs Opteron Dual Core

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Hello again.

Can somebody please enlighten me in terms of how the Itanium is likely to
compare with Opteron dual core?

I know the Itanium will run HPUX as well as Windows, and I know the Itanium
is pricey! I am not thinking of desktop use here, but just for SERVER use :

* ignoring the HPUX support, are there decent reasons to consider Itanium?
My gut feel is no, but what do I know?

* when running Windows are there discernable performance reasons to go with
one over the other?

* since Itanium has a different software build for the OS, I presume it also
needs different 64 bit application (server) builds; I notice SQL has an
Itanium variant. Is this correct?

* presumably any true .NET applications are platform independant; true?

* is it 'believed' that MS will continue to support Itanium with any 64 bit
builds in the long term? My fear is a repeat of the 'NT' ALPHA/MIPS/PowerPC
scenario which occured early in 32 bit support... most processors no longer
supported.

I'd appreciate your thoughts on this.

Many thanks,
--
Clive Crocker
CMC Communication Systems Ltd
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Re: Itanium vs Opteron Dual Core by Andre

Andre
Thu Sep 29 09:15:33 CDT 2005

It depends on the workload, for example, highend websites. Also, for future
of Windows Server on Itanium, Microsoft is removing some of the server
roles. Check out the case studies, to find out some of the scenarios in
which Itanium and Windows Server is being used:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/64bit/ipf/enterprise.mspx

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=25928
Microsoft says that Longhorn will run three types of higher-end tasks on
Itanium including databases, custom jobs and CRM. However it will not be
able to do fax server, Windows Media Services, Windows SharePoint Services,
file and print servers, and others.

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"Clive Crocker" <CliveCrocker@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C04A1651-2D23-434D-9313-601F3FE3A3E5@microsoft.com...
> Hello again.
>
> Can somebody please enlighten me in terms of how the Itanium is likely to
> compare with Opteron dual core?
>
> I know the Itanium will run HPUX as well as Windows, and I know the
> Itanium
> is pricey! I am not thinking of desktop use here, but just for SERVER use
> :
>
> * ignoring the HPUX support, are there decent reasons to consider Itanium?
> My gut feel is no, but what do I know?
>
> * when running Windows are there discernable performance reasons to go
> with
> one over the other?
>
> * since Itanium has a different software build for the OS, I presume it
> also
> needs different 64 bit application (server) builds; I notice SQL has an
> Itanium variant. Is this correct?
>
> * presumably any true .NET applications are platform independant; true?
>
> * is it 'believed' that MS will continue to support Itanium with any 64
> bit
> builds in the long term? My fear is a repeat of the 'NT'
> ALPHA/MIPS/PowerPC
> scenario which occured early in 32 bit support... most processors no
> longer
> supported.
>
> I'd appreciate your thoughts on this.
>
> Many thanks,
> --
> Clive Crocker
> CMC Communication Systems Ltd


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Re: Itanium vs Opteron Dual Core by CliveCrocker

CliveCrocker
Thu Sep 29 09:33:04 CDT 2005

Hi

Thanks for your information; I think the message is : use Itanium if you
really need the high-end power/performance now, and have specific target
applications in mind.

Thus I will not persue this further unless I specifically need to support
Itanium!

Thanks again
--
Clive Crocker
CMC Communication Systems Ltd


"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote:

> It depends on the workload, for example, highend websites. Also, for future
> of Windows Server on Itanium, Microsoft is removing some of the server
> roles. Check out the case studies, to find out some of the scenarios in
> which Itanium and Windows Server is being used:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/64bit/ipf/enterprise.mspx
>
> http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=25928
> Microsoft says that Longhorn will run three types of higher-end tasks on
> Itanium including databases, custom jobs and CRM. However it will not be
> able to do fax server, Windows Media Services, Windows SharePoint Services,
> file and print servers, and others.
>
> --
> Andre
> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
> FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
>
> "Clive Crocker" <CliveCrocker@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C04A1651-2D23-434D-9313-601F3FE3A3E5@microsoft.com...
> > Hello again.
> >
> > Can somebody please enlighten me in terms of how the Itanium is likely to
> > compare with Opteron dual core?
> >
> > I know the Itanium will run HPUX as well as Windows, and I know the
> > Itanium
> > is pricey! I am not thinking of desktop use here, but just for SERVER use
> > :
> >
> > * ignoring the HPUX support, are there decent reasons to consider Itanium?
> > My gut feel is no, but what do I know?
> >
> > * when running Windows are there discernable performance reasons to go
> > with
> > one over the other?
> >
> > * since Itanium has a different software build for the OS, I presume it
> > also
> > needs different 64 bit application (server) builds; I notice SQL has an
> > Itanium variant. Is this correct?
> >
> > * presumably any true .NET applications are platform independant; true?
> >
> > * is it 'believed' that MS will continue to support Itanium with any 64
> > bit
> > builds in the long term? My fear is a repeat of the 'NT'
> > ALPHA/MIPS/PowerPC
> > scenario which occured early in 32 bit support... most processors no
> > longer
> > supported.
> >
> > I'd appreciate your thoughts on this.
> >
> > Many thanks,
> > --
> > Clive Crocker
> > CMC Communication Systems Ltd
>
>
>
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