I just had 8GB of RAM installed in an xw4300 64-bit box (Windows XP 64 bit
editon). Like before, when I only had 4GB, Windows System Properties tab
shows 3.5GB of total RAM.

Why is this the case? Are there any tools that show the true amount of RAM
in a box -- not the amount reported by Windows?

TIA,
Bill

Re: Free Memory in System Properties by Dan

Dan
Wed Mar 08 22:37:28 CST 2006

I surely wish you had checked here first... before purchasing the RAM. =
Many 64 bit mobo/BIOS combinations will not support more that ~3.2-3.5 =
GB of RAM. I can sympathize with you... I have one of them.

--=20
-Dan-


"bill" <wsalkin@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
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>I just had 8GB of RAM installed in an xw4300 64-bit box (Windows XP 64 =
bit=20
> editon). Like before, when I only had 4GB, Windows System Properties =
tab=20
> shows 3.5GB of total RAM.
>=20
> Why is this the case? Are there any tools that show the true amount of =
RAM=20
> in a box -- not the amount reported by Windows?
>=20
> TIA,
> Bill
>=20
>

Re: Free Memory in System Properties by bill

bill
Thu Mar 09 09:26:56 CST 2006

Dan,

According to the specs for the hp xw4300 it should support up to 8GB of RAM.
I wonder if the amount of RAM displayed in the System Properties tab is
accuracte above 4GB. I may have to tweak boot.ini yet.

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06a/12454-296719-296721-307907-296721-471922.html

Bill




"Dan Koerner" <nospam@nospam.org> wrote in message
news:uy2ItMzQGHA.4452@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
I surely wish you had checked here first... before purchasing the RAM. Many
64 bit mobo/BIOS combinations will not support more that ~3.2-3.5 GB of RAM.
I can sympathize with you... I have one of them.

--
-Dan-


"bill" <wsalkin@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OaBunmvQGHA.2276@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>I just had 8GB of RAM installed in an xw4300 64-bit box (Windows XP 64 bit
> editon). Like before, when I only had 4GB, Windows System Properties tab
> shows 3.5GB of total RAM.
>
> Why is this the case? Are there any tools that show the true amount of RAM
> in a box -- not the amount reported by Windows?
>
> TIA,
> Bill
>
>



Re: Free Memory in System Properties by bill

bill
Thu Mar 09 09:29:33 CST 2006

Dan,

I just checked -- my BIOS shows 8192MB of RAM! This is surely a Windows
issue.

Bill

"Dan Koerner" <nospam@nospam.org> wrote in message
news:uy2ItMzQGHA.4452@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
I surely wish you had checked here first... before purchasing the RAM. Many
64 bit mobo/BIOS combinations will not support more that ~3.2-3.5 GB of RAM.
I can sympathize with you... I have one of them.

--
-Dan-


"bill" <wsalkin@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OaBunmvQGHA.2276@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>I just had 8GB of RAM installed in an xw4300 64-bit box (Windows XP 64 bit
> editon). Like before, when I only had 4GB, Windows System Properties tab
> shows 3.5GB of total RAM.
>
> Why is this the case? Are there any tools that show the true amount of RAM
> in a box -- not the amount reported by Windows?
>
> TIA,
> Bill
>
>



Re: Free Memory in System Properties by Dan

Dan
Thu Mar 09 10:32:16 CST 2006

Good... at least your BIOS is seeing the memory. Mine reports 3.4GB, =
but with 4GB installed. Some have been able to overcome this by changing =
the way the memory is mapped by the BIOS. Good luck!!!!

--=20
-Dan-


"bill" <wsalkin@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:OQnfG54QGHA.2300@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Dan,
>=20
> I just checked -- my BIOS shows 8192MB of RAM! This is surely a =
Windows=20
> issue.
>=20
> Bill


Re: Free Memory in System Properties by Carwyn

Carwyn
Thu Mar 09 13:02:37 CST 2006

Hi, I have a XW6200 with 5GB and Windows reports that accurately.
You could try the HP support forums on the HP web site or the option to have
a online chat with one of the support reprecentive. Perhaps they have a BIOS
fix/update for the unit.

Carwyn.


"bill" <wsalkin@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OaBunmvQGHA.2276@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>I just had 8GB of RAM installed in an xw4300 64-bit box (Windows XP 64 bit
>editon). Like before, when I only had 4GB, Windows System Properties tab
>shows 3.5GB of total RAM.
>
> Why is this the case? Are there any tools that show the true amount of RAM
> in a box -- not the amount reported by Windows?
>
> TIA,
> Bill
>
>



Re: Free Memory in System Properties by bill

bill
Thu Mar 09 13:14:12 CST 2006

Dan,

Out of desperation I called HP. Believe it or not my xw4300 had BIOS version
1.0.3. They said they fixed the memory display issue in 1.0.4 and then again
in 1.0.5.... so I installed the latest - BIOS 1.0.7. Now my System Property
windows shows 8GB of RAM! Yeah, baby!

Bill

"Dan Koerner" <nospam@nospam.org> wrote in message
news:eqBPIc5QGHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Good... at least your BIOS is seeing the memory. Mine reports 3.4GB, but
with 4GB installed. Some have been able to overcome this by changing the way
the memory is mapped by the BIOS. Good luck!!!!

--
-Dan-


"bill" <wsalkin@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OQnfG54QGHA.2300@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Dan,
>
> I just checked -- my BIOS shows 8192MB of RAM! This is surely a Windows
> issue.
>
> Bill



Re: Free Memory in System Properties by bill

bill
Thu Mar 09 13:59:17 CST 2006

Carwyn,

I was told that if we ordered the HP xw4300 with 8GB of RAM, they would have
upgraded the BIOS to read the correct amount before sending it to us.
Instead, we ordered the default configuration (1 GB) which registered
properly in Windows so do they didn't upgrade the BIOS.

Bill


"Carwyn Hollett" <Carwyn.Hollett@fictional.address.co.uk> wrote in message
news:T4mdncPYiY1Q5o3ZnZ2dnUVZ8qWdnZ2d@brightview.com...
> Hi, I have a XW6200 with 5GB and Windows reports that accurately.
> You could try the HP support forums on the HP web site or the option to
> have a online chat with one of the support reprecentive. Perhaps they have
> a BIOS fix/update for the unit.
>
> Carwyn.
>
>
> "bill" <wsalkin@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OaBunmvQGHA.2276@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>I just had 8GB of RAM installed in an xw4300 64-bit box (Windows XP 64 bit
>>editon). Like before, when I only had 4GB, Windows System Properties tab
>>shows 3.5GB of total RAM.
>>
>> Why is this the case? Are there any tools that show the true amount of
>> RAM in a box -- not the amount reported by Windows?
>>
>> TIA,
>> Bill
>>
>>
>
>



Re: Free Memory in System Properties by Darrellg

Darrellg
Thu Mar 09 17:44:47 CST 2006

Hello Bill,
The boot.ini shouldn't have settings to increase the amount of memory
available.
With 32-bit Windows, this exposed with /pae so we are using the PAE kernel.
PAE is is Physical Address Extensions which allow for more memory
addressing.
that already exists in 64-bit Windows, so the addressing if available to
see the memory.
What does MsInfo 32 report back for memory (total physical memory)?
What does task manager report?

Now there are some limitations for running 32-bit with 4 gig of RAM. Since
the addressing is limited to 4 gig, hardware that allocates memory
resources has to locate below 4 gig, thus reducing the amount of RAM
available. /PAE allows for relocated those addresses, however not all
drivers or hardware likes being relocated, however with 64-bit drivers this
shouldn't be an issue. However since the machines can ship with either a
32-bit OS, they may limit what is exposed to Windows thus reducing
potential exposure for drivers that do not like relocating. So there are
limitations depending on hardware for 32-bit systems which reduce the
amount of memory seen below 4 gig inside Windows. However Windows should
not have problems seeing that memory under 64-bit Windows.


Thanks,
Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

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<> Why is this the case? Are there any tools that show the true amount of
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Re: Free Memory in System Properties by Dan

Dan
Thu Mar 09 22:56:11 CST 2006

Yeah, baby!!!!=20

I may check for new BIOS for my POS...=20

--=20
-Dan-


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> ...Yeah, baby!
>=20
> Bill
>=20