FSIM X on Vista 64 bit

Any known problems using FSIMX on 64 Bit Vista. I had no problems with FSIM
on my current hardare under XP/SP2. Installed clean Vista x64 and now the
screen flickers to black every 1 second or so.

Hardware is ASUS A8N SLI-Prem, 3GB RAM, ASUS EN6600GT, AMD3800+, SATA3 250GB
HDD. Have all latest nvidia drivers. Audio works well.

Theo
Thu Mar 29 16:07:41 CDT 2007

According to the information posted on the Microsoft web=20
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http://www.microsoft.com/games/flightsimulatorx/product_info.html
there is no mention of it being compatible with either Win=20
x64 nor Vista x64.

Minimum System Requirements
Windows XP SP2 / Windows Vista
Processor: 1.0 Ghz
RAM: Windows XP SP2 - 256MB, Windows Vista =E2=80=93 512MB
Hard Drive: 14GB
Video Card: 32MB DirectX 9 compatible
Other: DX9 hardware compatibility and audio board with=20
speakers and/or headphones
Online/Multiplayer Requirements: 56.6 kbps or better for=20
online play


Bill wrote:
> Any known problems using FSIMX on 64 Bit Vista. I had no problems with =
FSIM=20
> on my current hardare under XP/SP2. Installed clean Vista x64 and now =
the=20
> screen flickers to black every 1 second or so.
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> Hardware is ASUS A8N SLI-Prem, 3GB RAM, ASUS EN6600GT, AMD3800+, SATA3 =
250GB=20
> HDD. Have all latest nvidia drivers. Audio works well.

jabloomf1230
Thu Mar 29 16:10:04 CDT 2007

When you say "the latest drivers", I assume that you are referring to
the nVidia 101.41 beta set. You're really pushing that 6600GT to run FSX
as it brings even the best hardware to its knees. As a test, have you
tried reducing the resolution to something pretty low, like 800 X 600
and see if you get the same problem to occur?

As to your original question, there are known problems with many 3D
games under Vista. I haven't had any problems with FSX under Vista
Ultimate x64, but I'm probably just lucky.

Google FSX and you'll find a ton of websites/message boards that talk
about FSX, hardware and driver issues. For example:

www.avsim.com
www.simviation.com
www.sim-outhouse.com
www.flyawaysimulation.com
www.flightsimworld.com
www.fsimcafe.com
www.flightsim.com
netwings.org
www.fszone.org
www.simradar.com etc.

Bill wrote:
> Any known problems using FSIMX on 64 Bit Vista. I had no problems with FSIM
> on my current hardare under XP/SP2. Installed clean Vista x64 and now the
> screen flickers to black every 1 second or so.
>
> Hardware is ASUS A8N SLI-Prem, 3GB RAM, ASUS EN6600GT, AMD3800+, SATA3 250GB
> HDD. Have all latest nvidia drivers. Audio works well.

jabloomf1230
Thu Mar 29 16:12:56 CDT 2007

FSX ran fine for me also under Win XP x64. No problems at all.

Theo wrote:
> According to the information posted on the Microsoft web site:
> http://www.microsoft.com/games/flightsimulatorx/product_info.html
> there is no mention of it being compatible with either Win x64 nor Vista
> x64.
>
> Minimum System Requirements
> Windows XP SP2 / Windows Vista
> Processor: 1.0 Ghz
> RAM: Windows XP SP2 - 256MB, Windows Vista â?? 512MB
> Hard Drive: 14GB
> Video Card: 32MB DirectX 9 compatible
> Other: DX9 hardware compatibility and audio board with speakers and/or
> headphones
> Online/Multiplayer Requirements: 56.6 kbps or better for online play
>
>
> Bill wrote:
>> Any known problems using FSIMX on 64 Bit Vista. I had no problems with
>> FSIM on my current hardare under XP/SP2. Installed clean Vista x64
>> and now the screen flickers to black every 1 second or so.
>>
>> Hardware is ASUS A8N SLI-Prem, 3GB RAM, ASUS EN6600GT, AMD3800+, SATA3
>> 250GB HDD. Have all latest nvidia drivers. Audio works well.
>

Bill
Thu Mar 29 16:26:02 CDT 2007

Thanks for the replies.. Not certain of the version at the moment - not in
front of my box but i will check it. The 6600GT handles FSX just fine under
XP in Full detail on my hardware so i was hoping the extra overhead of Vista
wouldnt be too bad. I will take your advice and lower the screen res however
and check it out again tonite. My tests so far were on 1280x1024 but LOW
detail. Another interesting thing i noticed was that i got a message stating
" Changing to VISTA BASIC COLORS" and i thought that was odd. I am probably
goign to try it on Vista x32 as well just to see what happens.

"jabloomf1230" wrote:

> When you say "the latest drivers", I assume that you are referring to
> the nVidia 101.41 beta set. You're really pushing that 6600GT to run FSX
> as it brings even the best hardware to its knees. As a test, have you
> tried reducing the resolution to something pretty low, like 800 X 600
> and see if you get the same problem to occur?
>
> As to your original question, there are known problems with many 3D
> games under Vista. I haven't had any problems with FSX under Vista
> Ultimate x64, but I'm probably just lucky.
>
> Google FSX and you'll find a ton of websites/message boards that talk
> about FSX, hardware and driver issues. For example:
>
> www.avsim.com
> www.simviation.com
> www.sim-outhouse.com
> www.flyawaysimulation.com
> www.flightsimworld.com
> www.fsimcafe.com
> www.flightsim.com
> netwings.org
> www.fszone.org
> www.simradar.com etc.
>
> Bill wrote:
> > Any known problems using FSIMX on 64 Bit Vista. I had no problems with FSIM
> > on my current hardare under XP/SP2. Installed clean Vista x64 and now the
> > screen flickers to black every 1 second or so.
> >
> > Hardware is ASUS A8N SLI-Prem, 3GB RAM, ASUS EN6600GT, AMD3800+, SATA3 250GB
> > HDD. Have all latest nvidia drivers. Audio works well.
>

Tony
Thu Mar 29 17:05:22 CDT 2007

FSX is built for DX10 and that will only be released with Vista, as I
understand, but we are not there yet. Your problem is probably with the
state of development of the current set of video drivers - it seems to run
'mostly' fine with the OS and the basic functions, but some things must be
expected to be shakey. When the FSX DX10 patch is released, you may expect
the drivers to deliver better support, but not much earlier, is my guess.


Tony. . .


"Bill" <Bill@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:221B0F43-1F84-4DEF-A7DC-21FD3E9366F4@microsoft.com...
> Any known problems using FSIMX on 64 Bit Vista. I had no problems with
FSIM
> on my current hardare under XP/SP2. Installed clean Vista x64 and now the
> screen flickers to black every 1 second or so.
>
> Hardware is ASUS A8N SLI-Prem, 3GB RAM, ASUS EN6600GT, AMD3800+, SATA3
250GB
> HDD. Have all latest nvidia drivers. Audio works well.

Carlos
Thu Mar 29 18:50:00 CDT 2007

Runnin' fine with latest NVidia official drivers on Vista x64.
NV7600GT board on ASUS A8N-SLI, 2GB RAM
(at least that is what my elder son says)
Carlos

"Tony Sperling" wrote:

> FSX is built for DX10 and that will only be released with Vista, as I
> understand, but we are not there yet. Your problem is probably with the
> state of development of the current set of video drivers - it seems to run
> 'mostly' fine with the OS and the basic functions, but some things must be
> expected to be shakey. When the FSX DX10 patch is released, you may expect
> the drivers to deliver better support, but not much earlier, is my guess.
>
>
> Tony. . .
>
>
> "Bill" <Bill@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:221B0F43-1F84-4DEF-A7DC-21FD3E9366F4@microsoft.com...
> > Any known problems using FSIMX on 64 Bit Vista. I had no problems with
> FSIM
> > on my current hardare under XP/SP2. Installed clean Vista x64 and now the
> > screen flickers to black every 1 second or so.
> >
> > Hardware is ASUS A8N SLI-Prem, 3GB RAM, ASUS EN6600GT, AMD3800+, SATA3
> 250GB
> > HDD. Have all latest nvidia drivers. Audio works well.
>
>
>

Tony
Thu Mar 29 20:17:01 CDT 2007

Yes, no real surprise - the community seems to be roughly equally divided in
two, one has problems with graphical artifacts and flickering, the other
don't. Both groups, I think it's safe to bet, will benefit in no neglectable
amount from DX10 - the developers won't speak about dates or what kind of
specific support will unfold, but say we WILL like it.

Tony. . .


"Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B9B0E2F1-52F4-4609-8C71-BEC283366282@microsoft.com...
> Runnin' fine with latest NVidia official drivers on Vista x64.
> NV7600GT board on ASUS A8N-SLI, 2GB RAM
> (at least that is what my elder son says)
> Carlos
>
> "Tony Sperling" wrote:
>
> > FSX is built for DX10 and that will only be released with Vista, as I
> > understand, but we are not there yet. Your problem is probably with the
> > state of development of the current set of video drivers - it seems to
run
> > 'mostly' fine with the OS and the basic functions, but some things must
be
> > expected to be shakey. When the FSX DX10 patch is released, you may
expect
> > the drivers to deliver better support, but not much earlier, is my
guess.
> >
> >
> > Tony. . .
> >
> >
> > "Bill" <Bill@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:221B0F43-1F84-4DEF-A7DC-21FD3E9366F4@microsoft.com...
> > > Any known problems using FSIMX on 64 Bit Vista. I had no problems with
> > FSIM
> > > on my current hardare under XP/SP2. Installed clean Vista x64 and now
the
> > > screen flickers to black every 1 second or so.
> > >
> > > Hardware is ASUS A8N SLI-Prem, 3GB RAM, ASUS EN6600GT, AMD3800+, SATA3
> > 250GB
> > > HDD. Have all latest nvidia drivers. Audio works well.
> >
> >
> >

R
Fri Mar 30 09:53:42 CDT 2007

Hi, Tony.

DXDIAG.EXE says I'm running DirectX 10 NOW in Vista Ultimate x64.

I'm not a gamer, and I haven't installed Flight Simulator in years, so maybe
I just don't understand the issue.

My computer was upgraded in December to an EPoX MF570SLI mobo/AMD Athlon 64
X2 5000+ CPU/2 GB PC6400 RAM and ATI Radeon X1600 Pro PCI-express video
card. The Windows Experience score is 4.6, with Graphics being the lowest
score at 4.6; Gaming graphics gets 4.9.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Mail in Vista Ultimate x64)


"Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message
news:OQh2mkmcHHA.4836@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Yes, no real surprise - the community seems to be roughly equally divided
> in
> two, one has problems with graphical artifacts and flickering, the other
> don't. Both groups, I think it's safe to bet, will benefit in no
> neglectable
> amount from DX10 - the developers won't speak about dates or what kind of
> specific support will unfold, but say we WILL like it.
>
> Tony. . .
>
>
> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B9B0E2F1-52F4-4609-8C71-BEC283366282@microsoft.com...
>> Runnin' fine with latest NVidia official drivers on Vista x64.
>> NV7600GT board on ASUS A8N-SLI, 2GB RAM
>> (at least that is what my elder son says)
>> Carlos
>>
>> "Tony Sperling" wrote:
>>
>> > FSX is built for DX10 and that will only be released with Vista, as I
>> > understand, but we are not there yet. Your problem is probably with the
>> > state of development of the current set of video drivers - it seems to
> run
>> > 'mostly' fine with the OS and the basic functions, but some things must
> be
>> > expected to be shakey. When the FSX DX10 patch is released, you may
> expect
>> > the drivers to deliver better support, but not much earlier, is my
> guess.
>> >
>> >
>> > Tony. . .
>> >
>> >
>> > "Bill" <Bill@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:221B0F43-1F84-4DEF-A7DC-21FD3E9366F4@microsoft.com...
>> > > Any known problems using FSIMX on 64 Bit Vista. I had no problems
>> > > with
>> > FSIM
>> > > on my current hardare under XP/SP2. Installed clean Vista x64 and
>> > > now
> the
>> > > screen flickers to black every 1 second or so.
>> > >
>> > > Hardware is ASUS A8N SLI-Prem, 3GB RAM, ASUS EN6600GT, AMD3800+,
>> > > SATA3
>> > 250GB
>> > > HDD. Have all latest nvidia drivers. Audio works well.

Carlos
Fri Mar 30 11:46:01 CDT 2007

R.C.:
You are right.
DirectX10 (as well as DirectX 9.0) are part of Vista installation.
What we are not seeing much are DirectX10 capable graphic cards.
I think that so far NVidia has a couple of chips of the 8xxx series but they
are way too pricey for the time being.
That kind of cards will surely squeeze all the performance out of FSX.
Carlos

"R. C. White, MVP" wrote:

> Hi, Tony.
>
> DXDIAG.EXE says I'm running DirectX 10 NOW in Vista Ultimate x64.
>
> I'm not a gamer, and I haven't installed Flight Simulator in years, so maybe
> I just don't understand the issue.
>
> My computer was upgraded in December to an EPoX MF570SLI mobo/AMD Athlon 64
> X2 5000+ CPU/2 GB PC6400 RAM and ATI Radeon X1600 Pro PCI-express video
> card. The Windows Experience score is 4.6, with Graphics being the lowest
> score at 4.6; Gaming graphics gets 4.9.
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> rc@grandecom.net
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> (Running Windows Mail in Vista Ultimate x64)
>
>
> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message
> news:OQh2mkmcHHA.4836@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > Yes, no real surprise - the community seems to be roughly equally divided
> > in
> > two, one has problems with graphical artifacts and flickering, the other
> > don't. Both groups, I think it's safe to bet, will benefit in no
> > neglectable
> > amount from DX10 - the developers won't speak about dates or what kind of
> > specific support will unfold, but say we WILL like it.
> >
> > Tony. . .
> >
> >
> > "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:B9B0E2F1-52F4-4609-8C71-BEC283366282@microsoft.com...
> >> Runnin' fine with latest NVidia official drivers on Vista x64.
> >> NV7600GT board on ASUS A8N-SLI, 2GB RAM
> >> (at least that is what my elder son says)
> >> Carlos
> >>
> >> "Tony Sperling" wrote:
> >>
> >> > FSX is built for DX10 and that will only be released with Vista, as I
> >> > understand, but we are not there yet. Your problem is probably with the
> >> > state of development of the current set of video drivers - it seems to
> > run
> >> > 'mostly' fine with the OS and the basic functions, but some things must
> > be
> >> > expected to be shakey. When the FSX DX10 patch is released, you may
> > expect
> >> > the drivers to deliver better support, but not much earlier, is my
> > guess.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Tony. . .
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Bill" <Bill@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:221B0F43-1F84-4DEF-A7DC-21FD3E9366F4@microsoft.com...
> >> > > Any known problems using FSIMX on 64 Bit Vista. I had no problems
> >> > > with
> >> > FSIM
> >> > > on my current hardare under XP/SP2. Installed clean Vista x64 and
> >> > > now
> > the
> >> > > screen flickers to black every 1 second or so.
> >> > >
> >> > > Hardware is ASUS A8N SLI-Prem, 3GB RAM, ASUS EN6600GT, AMD3800+,
> >> > > SATA3
> >> > 250GB
> >> > > HDD. Have all latest nvidia drivers. Audio works well.
>

jabloomf1230
Fri Mar 30 16:38:58 CDT 2007

There's a lot of things all jumbled up in this thread. First Vista has
both DX10 and DX9(for backward compatibility)functionality built in,
right now. At the moment, only the nVidia 8xxx video cards support DX10.
But that does no one any good, since there are no Vista drivers from
nVidia that support DX10. Finally, FSX is presently only a DX9 game,
until MS comes up with a patch.

BTW, 5xxx, 6xxx and 7xxx cards from nVidia are not capable of supporting
DX10, at least that's what MS and nVidia say. The same is true for every
ATI card out right now also, but that's soon to change as the 2xxx ATI
cards come out.

Tune in again in 2 or 3 months and things will probably be even more
confusing. ;-)

R. C. White, MVP wrote:
> Hi, Tony.
>
> DXDIAG.EXE says I'm running DirectX 10 NOW in Vista Ultimate x64.
>
> I'm not a gamer, and I haven't installed Flight Simulator in years, so
> maybe I just don't understand the issue.
>
> My computer was upgraded in December to an EPoX MF570SLI mobo/AMD Athlon
> 64 X2 5000+ CPU/2 GB PC6400 RAM and ATI Radeon X1600 Pro PCI-express
> video card. The Windows Experience score is 4.6, with Graphics being
> the lowest score at 4.6; Gaming graphics gets 4.9.
>
> RC