64-Bit Email

For years, I've used Outlook Express for email, but the 64-bit version of OE
doesn't include a spelling checker (an inexplicable and unforgivable
omission IMHO). I've been using Outlook for quite some time, but it is
incredibly slow. It's not uncommon for it to take 7-8 seconds to respond to
a click on a message header. Can anyone recommend a good alternative?

Thanks,
Jim

Jud
Sat Dec 16 08:43:52 CST 2006

On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 09:35:39 -0500, "Jim Henriksen"
<mail@wolverinesoftware.com> wrote:

>Can anyone recommend a good alternative?

Mozilla Thunderbird, Forte Agent, to name some.
Both have spellcheck which works in x64.

jud

Bruce
Sat Dec 16 09:10:11 CST 2006

Jim Henriksen wrote:
> For years, I've used Outlook Express for email, but the 64-bit version of OE
> doesn't include a spelling checker (an inexplicable and unforgivable
> omission IMHO).


Outlook Express (whether 32-bit or 64-bit) has _never_ had
spell-checking capabilities of its own. Instead, it has always relied
upon the presence of other Microsoft Office applications, such as the
Office Suite, Word, or the Works _Suite_ (which includes Word, not the
regular Works). Additionally, the 64-bit version of OE cannot use the
spell-checking feature of the 32-bit Office applications.


> I've been using Outlook for quite some time, but it is
> incredibly slow. It's not uncommon for it to take 7-8 seconds to respond to
> a click on a message header.


Outlook shouldn't be that slow; I'd suggest that you consult with your
ISP to obtain the optimal Outlook configuration necessary to interface
with their POP3 mail servers.


> Can anyone recommend a good alternative?


You can either wait for 64-bit versions of the Office applications (for
which Microsoft has yet to announce any plans of ever developing), seek
out a third-party spell-checker that works with the 64-bit version of OE
(Google would be one place to start), or use a third-party email and
news client, such as Thunderbird, as I do, that has its own
spell-checking capability built-in.


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Jim
Sat Dec 16 09:24:11 CST 2006

Dear Bruce:

Thanks for your comments. The 7-8 second delays I described occur after all
messages have been downloaded. All messages are on my machine. It just
takes forever to move around from folder to folder and message to message.

Regards,
Jim

"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
news:OkcwIRSIHHA.3268@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Jim Henriksen wrote:
>> For years, I've used Outlook Express for email, but the 64-bit version of
>> OE doesn't include a spelling checker (an inexplicable and unforgivable
>> omission IMHO).
>
>
> Outlook Express (whether 32-bit or 64-bit) has _never_ had
> spell-checking capabilities of its own. Instead, it has always relied
> upon the presence of other Microsoft Office applications, such as the
> Office Suite, Word, or the Works _Suite_ (which includes Word, not the
> regular Works). Additionally, the 64-bit version of OE cannot use the
> spell-checking feature of the 32-bit Office applications.
>
>
>> I've been using Outlook for quite some time, but it is incredibly slow.
>> It's not uncommon for it to take 7-8 seconds to respond to a click on a
>> message header.
>
>
> Outlook shouldn't be that slow; I'd suggest that you consult with your ISP
> to obtain the optimal Outlook configuration necessary to interface with
> their POP3 mail servers.
>
>
>> Can anyone recommend a good alternative?
>
>
> You can either wait for 64-bit versions of the Office applications (for
> which Microsoft has yet to announce any plans of ever developing), seek
> out a third-party spell-checker that works with the 64-bit version of OE
> (Google would be one place to start), or use a third-party email and news
> client, such as Thunderbird, as I do, that has its own spell-checking
> capability built-in.
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand
> Russell

Bruce
Sat Dec 16 10:03:39 CST 2006

Jim Henriksen wrote:
> Dear Bruce:
>
> Thanks for your comments. The 7-8 second delays I described occur after all
> messages have been downloaded. All messages are on my machine. It just
> takes forever to move around from folder to folder and message to message.
>
> Regards,
> Jim
>

How large is your personal mailbox? Have you tried packing your PST?

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Charlie
Sat Dec 16 11:35:30 CST 2006

As Bruce suggests, this isn't normal. I'd suggest you archive off your
current mailbox and create a new one. Also look at fragmentation on your
hard disk. (FWIW, I prefer to explicitly set my email PST file to reside on
a different partition from my system drive.)

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"Jim Henriksen" <mail@wolverinesoftware.com> wrote in message
news:OBo99YSIHHA.816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Dear Bruce:
>
> Thanks for your comments. The 7-8 second delays I described occur after
> all messages have been downloaded. All messages are on my machine. It
> just takes forever to move around from folder to folder and message to
> message.
>
> Regards,
> Jim
>
> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
> news:OkcwIRSIHHA.3268@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Jim Henriksen wrote:
>>> For years, I've used Outlook Express for email, but the 64-bit version
>>> of OE doesn't include a spelling checker (an inexplicable and
>>> unforgivable omission IMHO).
>>
>>
>> Outlook Express (whether 32-bit or 64-bit) has _never_ had
>> spell-checking capabilities of its own. Instead, it has always relied
>> upon the presence of other Microsoft Office applications, such as the
>> Office Suite, Word, or the Works _Suite_ (which includes Word, not the
>> regular Works). Additionally, the 64-bit version of OE cannot use the
>> spell-checking feature of the 32-bit Office applications.
>>
>>
>>> I've been using Outlook for quite some time, but it is incredibly slow.
>>> It's not uncommon for it to take 7-8 seconds to respond to a click on a
>>> message header.
>>
>>
>> Outlook shouldn't be that slow; I'd suggest that you consult with your
>> ISP to obtain the optimal Outlook configuration necessary to interface
>> with their POP3 mail servers.
>>
>>
>>> Can anyone recommend a good alternative?
>>
>>
>> You can either wait for 64-bit versions of the Office applications (for
>> which Microsoft has yet to announce any plans of ever developing), seek
>> out a third-party spell-checker that works with the 64-bit version of OE
>> (Google would be one place to start), or use a third-party email and news
>> client, such as Thunderbird, as I do, that has its own spell-checking
>> capability built-in.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Bruce Chambers
>>
>> Help us help you:
>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>
>> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
>> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
>>
>> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand
>> Russell
>
>

Steve
Sat Dec 16 13:12:28 CST 2006

Jim Henriksen wrote:

>For years, I've used Outlook Express for email, but the 64-bit version of
>OE doesn't include a spelling checker (an inexplicable and unforgivable
>omission IMHO). I've been using Outlook for quite some time, but it is
>incredibly slow. It's not uncommon for it to take 7-8 seconds to respond
>to a click on a message header. Can anyone recommend a good alternative?

Just to add to what others have mentioned, the successor to OE in Vista
(Windows Mail) has a native spellchecker, and doesn't rely on an external
application. The 32-bit/64-bit issue disappears (as far as spellchecking
mail goes).

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---------------------------------------
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Jud
Sat Dec 16 13:14:39 CST 2006

On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 09:35:30 -0800, "Charlie Russel - MVP"
<charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:

>As Bruce suggests, this isn't normal. I'd suggest you archive off your
>current mailbox and create a new one. Also look at fragmentation on your
>hard disk. (FWIW, I prefer to explicitly set my email PST file to reside on
>a different partition from my system drive.)

Or try compressing the current one....

j

Charlie
Sat Dec 16 14:18:45 CST 2006

yes, plus it adds "community features" if anyone actually cares about such
things. :)

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"Steve Foster [SBS MVP]" <steve.foster@picamar.co.uk> wrote in message
news:xn0ev1le51fz8gw00c@msnews.microsoft.com...
> Jim Henriksen wrote:
>
>>For years, I've used Outlook Express for email, but the 64-bit version of
>>OE doesn't include a spelling checker (an inexplicable and unforgivable
>>omission IMHO). I've been using Outlook for quite some time, but it is
>>incredibly slow. It's not uncommon for it to take 7-8 seconds to respond
>>to a click on a message header. Can anyone recommend a good alternative?
>
> Just to add to what others have mentioned, the successor to OE in Vista
> (Windows Mail) has a native spellchecker, and doesn't rely on an external
> application. The 32-bit/64-bit issue disappears (as far as spellchecking
> mail goes).
>
> --
> Steve Foster [SBS MVP]
> ---------------------------------------
> MVPs do not work for Microsoft. Please reply only to the newsgroups.

Spinnacre
Sun Dec 17 02:38:15 CST 2006

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You can find more info here:
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Steve
Sun Dec 17 07:47:31 CST 2006

Charlie Russel - MVP wrote:

>yes, plus it adds "community features" if anyone actually cares about such
>things. :)

Would that be why you're using it as a newsreader? <g>

--
Steve Foster [SBS MVP]
---------------------------------------
MVPs do not work for Microsoft. Please reply only to the newsgroups.

Theo
Sun Dec 17 11:07:06 CST 2006

I would suggest you check the settings in your mail program.

Spinnacre wrote:
> =FF=FE<

Peter
Sun Dec 17 11:28:56 CST 2006

Does it do news ? That's all I use OE for and it's a pain not having the
spelling check

Peter Lawton

"Spinnacre" <spinnacre@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:E7716C2A-385E-4654-BFF1-1195BF63C3AA@microsoft.com...
Although it is still in beta testing, Windows Live Mail Desktop beta (WLMd)
has been pretty good to me. I prefer it now to OE or Windows Mail and I
imagine it will continue to get better. It has fulltime spell-checking (like
in Word) and I don't believe you need to have Office programs for it to
work. I love it.

You can find more info here:
http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionId=6ac2bed2-b5a4-4a0a-a897-e36dd191a9f4

~Spinnacre

"Jim Henriksen" wrote in message
news:#nnP29RIHHA.3668@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> For years, I've used Outlook Express for email, but the 64-bit version of
> OE
> doesn't include a spelling checker (an inexplicable and unforgivable
> omission IMHO). I've been using Outlook for quite some time, but it is
> incredibly slow. It's not uncommon for it to take 7-8 seconds to respond
> to
> a click on a message header. Can anyone recommend a good alternative?
>
> Thanks,
> Jim

Jud
Sun Dec 17 11:41:20 CST 2006

On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 17:28:56 -0000, "Peter Lawton" <devnull@fakedomain>
wrote:

>Does it do news ? That's all I use OE for and it's a pain not having the
>spelling check

Agent does.

jud

Charlie
Sun Dec 17 12:18:53 CST 2006

Nope. Familiarity only. I've used OE for years, know all the shortcut
keystrokes, and the same ones still work in Windows Mail.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64


"Steve Foster [SBS MVP]" <steve.foster@picamar.co.uk> wrote in message
news:xn0ev2rcf2gxqrm00g@msnews.microsoft.com...
> Charlie Russel - MVP wrote:
>
>>yes, plus it adds "community features" if anyone actually cares about such
>>things. :)
>
> Would that be why you're using it as a newsreader? <g>
>
> --
> Steve Foster [SBS MVP]
> ---------------------------------------
> MVPs do not work for Microsoft. Please reply only to the newsgroups.

Spinnacre
Sun Dec 17 21:49:06 CST 2006

Yes it does news (newsgroups): that is what I'm using for this. It also does
RSS if that is what you mean... as well as calendar and attached image
sizing/dressing-up. The beta has a few issues with newsgroups... some
messages sent (by you) are not viewable to you (and therefore any responses
to those). This may now be fixed though since they have just updated the
beta build (1223). This is my first post using the new build.

~Spinnacre

"Peter Lawton" <devnull@fakedomain> wrote in message
news:eQQhVDgIHHA.1468@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Does it do news ? That's all I use OE for and it's a pain not having the
> spelling check
>
> Peter Lawton
>
> "Spinnacre" <spinnacre@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:E7716C2A-385E-4654-BFF1-1195BF63C3AA@microsoft.com...
> Although it is still in beta testing, Windows Live Mail Desktop beta
> (WLMd) has been pretty good to me. I prefer it now to OE or Windows Mail
> and I imagine it will continue to get better. It has fulltime
> spell-checking (like in Word) and I don't believe you need to have Office
> programs for it to work. I love it.
>
> You can find more info here:
> http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionId=6ac2bed2-b5a4-4a0a-a897-e36dd191a9f4
>
> ~Spinnacre
>
> "Jim Henriksen" wrote in message
> news:#nnP29RIHHA.3668@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> For years, I've used Outlook Express for email, but the 64-bit version of
>> OE
>> doesn't include a spelling checker (an inexplicable and unforgivable
>> omission IMHO). I've been using Outlook for quite some time, but it is
>> incredibly slow. It's not uncommon for it to take 7-8 seconds to respond
>> to
>> a click on a message header. Can anyone recommend a good alternative?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jim
>
>

Jim
Tue Dec 19 21:52:26 CST 2006

Jim Henriksen wrote:
> For years, I've used Outlook Express for email, but the 64-bit version of OE
> doesn't include a spelling checker (an inexplicable and unforgivable
> omission IMHO). I've been using Outlook for quite some time, but it is
> incredibly slow. It's not uncommon for it to take 7-8 seconds to respond to
> a click on a message header. Can anyone recommend a good alternative?
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
>

Thanks to one and all for your suggestions. I have converted to Mozilla
Thunderbird. I am extremely pleased with it. I have escaped the
shortcomings of Outlook.

Regards,
Jim