Disable IE7 on 64bit computer

Is is possible to disable the 64bit version of IE7 on a 64bit computer but
still allow the 32bit version to work?

Thanks, John

Charlie
Wed Oct 18 10:17:47 CDT 2006

Why disable it? Just don't use it. The default IE7 is 32-bit, and you'll
only get the 64-bit if you explicitly click that icon.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64


"John Negus" <jnegus@msetechnology.com> wrote in message
news:uPpZHNs8GHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Is is possible to disable the 64bit version of IE7 on a 64bit computer but
> still allow the 32bit version to work?
>
> Thanks, John

John
Wed Oct 18 10:38:48 CDT 2006

We are having problems using the 64bit version but the 32bit version works
fine. We want to make sure our users do not use the 64bit version.

John.



"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
news:639062E5-89E9-4EDC-9DA4-7702EF440857@microsoft.com...
> Why disable it? Just don't use it. The default IE7 is 32-bit, and you'll
> only get the 64-bit if you explicitly click that icon.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>
>
> "John Negus" <jnegus@msetechnology.com> wrote in message
> news:uPpZHNs8GHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Is is possible to disable the 64bit version of IE7 on a 64bit computer
>> but still allow the 32bit version to work?
>>
>> Thanks, John
>

John
Wed Oct 18 11:25:46 CDT 2006

You can remove the shortcuts to the 64-bit version so it is not chosen, but
you cannot really eliminate its use. For instance, the 64-bit Outlook
Express will only link to the IE64.


"John Negus" <jnegus@msetechnology.com> wrote in message
news:OAeVJus8GHA.3620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> We are having problems using the 64bit version but the 32bit version works
> fine. We want to make sure our users do not use the 64bit version.
>
> John.
>
>
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
> news:639062E5-89E9-4EDC-9DA4-7702EF440857@microsoft.com...
>> Why disable it? Just don't use it. The default IE7 is 32-bit, and you'll
>> only get the 64-bit if you explicitly click that icon.
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>
>>
>> "John Negus" <jnegus@msetechnology.com> wrote in message
>> news:uPpZHNs8GHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Is is possible to disable the 64bit version of IE7 on a 64bit computer
>>> but still allow the 32bit version to work?
>>>
>>> Thanks, John
>>
>

Charlie
Wed Oct 18 13:43:14 CDT 2006

John is correct - you can easily remove the shortcut to it, but you won't
completely disable its use. Any 64bit program that calls IE will get the
64bit version of IE.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64


"John Negus" <jnegus@msetechnology.com> wrote in message
news:OAeVJus8GHA.3620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> We are having problems using the 64bit version but the 32bit version works
> fine. We want to make sure our users do not use the 64bit version.
>
> John.
>
>
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
> news:639062E5-89E9-4EDC-9DA4-7702EF440857@microsoft.com...
>> Why disable it? Just don't use it. The default IE7 is 32-bit, and you'll
>> only get the 64-bit if you explicitly click that icon.
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>
>>
>> "John Negus" <jnegus@msetechnology.com> wrote in message
>> news:uPpZHNs8GHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Is is possible to disable the 64bit version of IE7 on a 64bit computer
>>> but still allow the 32bit version to work?
>>>
>>> Thanks, John
>>
>

Spinnacre
Tue Oct 24 17:25:02 CDT 2006

>For instance, the 64-bit Outlook Express will only link to the IE64.

Aha! This is my problem! I am running XP x64, so how do I go about using
Outlook Express 32-bit so that email links will open in IE 32-bit? I tried
running the "msimn.exe" in the \Program Files (x86)\Outlook Express directory
versus the D:\Program Files\Outlook Express, but that seemed to make no
difference. The problem of my emails opening links in IE 64-bit is driving
me crazy.

So many things seems to not be working in IE 64-bit, but I suppose Flash is
the only thing that really hurts. (I don't love Flash or anything, but so
many sites depend on it) If I could get that working I imagine that I would
be quite happy using IE 64-bit.

Any help with this will be much appreciated.

~David

John
Tue Oct 24 17:51:46 CDT 2006

As Charlie has pointed out numerous times here, there is no real OE64. The
OE32 just launches the 64bit version


"Spinnacre" <Spinnacre@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D2841CAB-CE04-4412-8B3F-91CE639B7189@microsoft.com...
> >For instance, the 64-bit Outlook Express will only link to the IE64.
>
> Aha! This is my problem! I am running XP x64, so how do I go about using
> Outlook Express 32-bit so that email links will open in IE 32-bit? I
> tried
> running the "msimn.exe" in the \Program Files (x86)\Outlook Express
> directory
> versus the D:\Program Files\Outlook Express, but that seemed to make no
> difference. The problem of my emails opening links in IE 64-bit is
> driving
> me crazy.
>
> So many things seems to not be working in IE 64-bit, but I suppose Flash
> is
> the only thing that really hurts. (I don't love Flash or anything, but so
> many sites depend on it) If I could get that working I imagine that I
> would
> be quite happy using IE 64-bit.
>
> Any help with this will be much appreciated.
>
> ~David
>

John
Tue Oct 24 18:14:57 CDT 2006

I meant no real OE32. It just launches the 64-bit version

"John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
news:OipxA879GHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> As Charlie has pointed out numerous times here, there is no real OE64.
> The OE32 just launches the 64bit version
>
>
> "Spinnacre" <Spinnacre@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:D2841CAB-CE04-4412-8B3F-91CE639B7189@microsoft.com...
>> >For instance, the 64-bit Outlook Express will only link to the IE64.
>>
>> Aha! This is my problem! I am running XP x64, so how do I go about
>> using
>> Outlook Express 32-bit so that email links will open in IE 32-bit? I
>> tried
>> running the "msimn.exe" in the \Program Files (x86)\Outlook Express
>> directory
>> versus the D:\Program Files\Outlook Express, but that seemed to make no
>> difference. The problem of my emails opening links in IE 64-bit is
>> driving
>> me crazy.
>>
>> So many things seems to not be working in IE 64-bit, but I suppose Flash
>> is
>> the only thing that really hurts. (I don't love Flash or anything, but
>> so
>> many sites depend on it) If I could get that working I imagine that I
>> would
>> be quite happy using IE 64-bit.
>>
>> Any help with this will be much appreciated.
>>
>> ~David
>>
>
>

Spinnacre
Tue Oct 24 18:26:02 CDT 2006

So... there is no way to stop to my email loading links in IE 64-bit.
Wonderful.
I hate Thunderbird, but perhaps it is time to start dealing with it.
BTW, I tried my best to search/browse the newsgroup for a solution before
posting.

~David

"John Barnes" wrote:

> As Charlie has pointed out numerous times here, there is no real OE64. The
> OE32 just launches the 64bit version
>
>
> "Spinnacre" <Spinnacre@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:D2841CAB-CE04-4412-8B3F-91CE639B7189@microsoft.com...
> > >For instance, the 64-bit Outlook Express will only link to the IE64.
> >
> > Aha! This is my problem! I am running XP x64, so how do I go about using
> > Outlook Express 32-bit so that email links will open in IE 32-bit? I
> > tried
> > running the "msimn.exe" in the \Program Files (x86)\Outlook Express
> > directory
> > versus the D:\Program Files\Outlook Express, but that seemed to make no
> > difference. The problem of my emails opening links in IE 64-bit is
> > driving
> > me crazy.
> >
> > So many things seems to not be working in IE 64-bit, but I suppose Flash
> > is
> > the only thing that really hurts. (I don't love Flash or anything, but so
> > many sites depend on it) If I could get that working I imagine that I
> > would
> > be quite happy using IE 64-bit.
> >
> > Any help with this will be much appreciated.
> >
> > ~David
> >
>
>
>

Aaron
Tue Oct 24 18:33:41 CDT 2006

(I'm not particularly fond of Thunderbird, but I do like Firefox and find
that there is no problem loading links in the wrong place if it is the
default browser. :-P)

- Aaron

"Spinnacre" <Spinnacre@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0B49C319-934B-41AF-ABDD-C24A80019AEF@microsoft.com...
> So... there is no way to stop to my email loading links in IE 64-bit.
> Wonderful.
> I hate Thunderbird, but perhaps it is time to start dealing with it.
> BTW, I tried my best to search/browse the newsgroup for a solution before
> posting.
>
> ~David
>
> "John Barnes" wrote:
>
>> As Charlie has pointed out numerous times here, there is no real OE64.
>> The
>> OE32 just launches the 64bit version
>>
>>
>> "Spinnacre" <Spinnacre@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:D2841CAB-CE04-4412-8B3F-91CE639B7189@microsoft.com...
>> > >For instance, the 64-bit Outlook Express will only link to the IE64.
>> >
>> > Aha! This is my problem! I am running XP x64, so how do I go about
>> > using
>> > Outlook Express 32-bit so that email links will open in IE 32-bit? I
>> > tried
>> > running the "msimn.exe" in the \Program Files (x86)\Outlook Express
>> > directory
>> > versus the D:\Program Files\Outlook Express, but that seemed to make no
>> > difference. The problem of my emails opening links in IE 64-bit is
>> > driving
>> > me crazy.
>> >
>> > So many things seems to not be working in IE 64-bit, but I suppose
>> > Flash
>> > is
>> > the only thing that really hurts. (I don't love Flash or anything, but
>> > so
>> > many sites depend on it) If I could get that working I imagine that I
>> > would
>> > be quite happy using IE 64-bit.
>> >
>> > Any help with this will be much appreciated.
>> >
>> > ~David
>> >
>>
>>
>>

Spinnacre
Tue Oct 24 18:43:02 CDT 2006

WOW! For the first time ever, Microsoft might have solved my problem just
minutes after I betched about it! I got this email just minutes after posting
the last reply:

"Hi,

So, you're a Microsoft® Outlook® Express user, right? We'd like you to know
about the next generation of desktop e-mail, called Windows LiveT Mail
Desktop, and you can try out a beta version of it now, for free. (The "beta"
part means this product hasn't officially been released yet.)

Here's why you should care:

You'll be able to read and manage your RSS and newsgroup content as easily
as you get e- mail.

Even when you're offline, you'll be able to sort and compose e-mail.You'll
get 2 GB* of online storage with your Windows Live Mail account, which is
enough for 1,000 high-resolution ( 2 MB) photos.

And a bunch of other reasons, too. Read more here.
[http://imagine-msn.com/minisites/desktop/default.aspx]

Click here to accept the invite

Also: if you try Windows Live Mail Desktop Beta you don't have to get rid of
Outlook Express. And all your Outlook Express e-mail, folders, and contact
information will come with you into the shiny new world of Windows Live Mail
Desktop Beta.

By the way, Windows Live Desktop Mail Beta is part of a whole new wave of
online services, including Windows Live Messenger, Windows Live Mail, Windows
Live Spaces, Windows Live Search and more. Windows Live will be the place
where your online world comes together. Get a sneak preview of Windows Live
products today at http://ideas.live.com.

* 2GB = 2,000,000,000 bytes"


Anyway, Windows Live Mail seems to be a step forward so far with a flawless
install!

John
Tue Oct 24 19:33:45 CDT 2006

Good luck. Hope it's your answer. Let us know. I dislike having to copy
and paste URL's also, but fortunately don't have many.


"Spinnacre" <Spinnacre@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F38426FC-593A-4D29-BAF1-F7B6A00AC40A@microsoft.com...
> WOW! For the first time ever, Microsoft might have solved my problem just
> minutes after I betched about it! I got this email just minutes after
> posting
> the last reply:
>
> "Hi,
>
> So, you're a Microsoft® Outlook® Express user, right? We'd like you to
> know
> about the next generation of desktop e-mail, called Windows LiveT Mail
> Desktop, and you can try out a beta version of it now, for free. (The
> "beta"
> part means this product hasn't officially been released yet.)
>
> Here's why you should care:
>
> You'll be able to read and manage your RSS and newsgroup content as easily
> as you get e- mail.
>
> Even when you're offline, you'll be able to sort and compose e-mail.You'll
> get 2 GB* of online storage with your Windows Live Mail account, which is
> enough for 1,000 high-resolution ( 2 MB) photos.
>
> And a bunch of other reasons, too. Read more here.
> [http://imagine-msn.com/minisites/desktop/default.aspx]
>
> Click here to accept the invite
>
> Also: if you try Windows Live Mail Desktop Beta you don't have to get rid
> of
> Outlook Express. And all your Outlook Express e-mail, folders, and contact
> information will come with you into the shiny new world of Windows Live
> Mail
> Desktop Beta.
>
> By the way, Windows Live Desktop Mail Beta is part of a whole new wave of
> online services, including Windows Live Messenger, Windows Live Mail,
> Windows
> Live Spaces, Windows Live Search and more. Windows Live will be the place
> where your online world comes together. Get a sneak preview of Windows
> Live
> products today at http://ideas.live.com.
>
> * 2GB = 2,000,000,000 bytes"
>
>
> Anyway, Windows Live Mail seems to be a step forward so far with a
> flawless
> install!

Spinnacre
Mon Nov 13 18:03:56 CST 2006

I have been using Windows Live Mail Desktop beta (WLMD) version 8.0.1083 for
20 days at work and at home. I transitioned from Outlook Express x64(OE)

Before I get into the WLMD pros and cons, let me state that WLMD beta opens
email links beautifully in Internet Explorer x86 rather than IE x64.
Afterall, that was THE ISSUE that led me to switch. That, and OE was
crashing (on only this computer) after 30 minutes.

There are a number of differences between OE (and Windows Mail) and WLMD
that I DON'T like:

1) I have 6 email accounts (I know... ridiculous) and in WLMD each of them
fully expands its own folders in the left pane every time I open the program
(though they are easy to condense, WLMD forgets the state between sessions
and you cannot control the order)... all accounts have segregated folders by
default (like remote, HTTP email accounts dislayed in Outlook Express, even
though they are stored locally in WLMD) this is true except for your
imported folders, which are pushed all the way to the bottom and are
apparently being phased-out or at least reduced in favor. But, above your
accounts there are customizable dynamic listings or 'views' for browsing all
mail accounts at once. Apparently, MS plans to use dynamic 'viewing' to sort
email as opposed to consolidating email from different accounts into folders
like OE does. Not sure if I like this yet, but there is a 'Current View'
manager for custom dynamic views. At this stage, the manager is REALLY WEAK
and is not accessible enough to replace the draggable/clickable columns.

2) Emails are not as easily sortable . Before, I could drag columns and sort
by clicking them... not so in WLMD. That is the most annoying thing. There
is ONLY ONE sortable column in the primary pane (flags are on the right, but
are not sortable or moveable to the left), which can easily be switched
between ascending/descending, but can only be set to ONE sort at a time
(Date, From, Flag, Watch, etc.)... I always used OE to sort by 'Date and
then by Flag' by clicking the date column, then the flag column giving me my
flagged emails at top and newest emails descending below them. That just
prioritizes the flagged emails, while still showing my newest emails without
having to scroll anywhere. The 'Current View' manager is just not potent
enough to do this in WLMD...yet. I should get paid for this.

3) I never use the reading pane for email, only for newsgroups; I only open
emails I want to read. Selecting junk email (filter set to low) in the
process of deletion runs an 'anonymous' Internet search in the the right
pane for each email (even while holding Ctrl)... giving a slight delay and
general annoyance. You can switch this to show an MS banner advertisement
(currently), but it seems to switch back with each program session.

4) I almost always double-click the upper-left-hand icon to close a window.
But, in WLMD the icon only functions in maximized window mode. In Restored
window mode the icon does not function at all (the icon acts as if not
there, thus registering as a double-click to the titlebar and yielding a
maximize window action)... which must be a programming error because I
believe this is a Windows SOP, so don't be afraid to switch. BTW, this saves
the window state vs. the X in the upper-right which does not and I just find
the upper-left easier and more comfortable...much more so than pull-down
menu options or the X.

5) 'Real' header information is hard to come by without the reading pane.
Note to MS: DO NOT force me to use the reading pane. I swear against the
reading pane for email... if I wanted a smaller monitor (and/or viruses), I
would have bought/found one... BTW, this is my absolute #1 reason for
disliking Apple OS! (maximizing widows is forbidden by Apple, at least last
I checked) I would much rather double-click (with my multi-button mouse
THANK YOU VERY MUCH) to open an email and double-click (the upper-left
icon/window menu) to close the email. Oh yeah, header information... Without
the reading pane, you only see the cleaned-up (alternate name) version of
the sender's address (you know the one spammers use to bamboozle you into
seeing the same darned sender's name that you blocked every day this month)
rather than the actual email address (17w7dhu72727@yourmother.com). The only
other information you get is the subject, date (received), and flag status.
If there is a way to customize this, it wasn't as obvious as it should be.

6) Contacts not exportable!??! Microsoft... WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? For
Pete's Sake, just make it EASY!

7) The send-receive button is still there, but you have to look for it...
IDIOTS. You think it might be important? It still exists as an icon of two
offset envelopes, but without the text as well as per account or all at once
in the Tools menu.

8) Images in email are blocked by default (which is an understandable and
wise default for MS to enact). You can change this in the new "Email safety
options" under the Tools menu and the Security Tab. But, I am still getting
an annoying warning dialog that reads "Some of the attachments failed to
display correctly for this message" even though all of the images seem to be
displayed. In good MS fashion this message is just vague enough to give you
no clue how to resolve the issue. Another related problem that probably has
little to do with MS is that I love to send inline images from Picasa which
automatically batch processes (reduced file size/quality) images for email.
Picasa allows the 'Storybook' setting for sending via OE, but nothing else,
including Thunderbird and WLMD.

9) None of the toolbars are customizable (I just want icons... if I forget
what it means, I can hover for a tooltip!) And I want more icons... I'm sick
like that.

There are also a lot of things that I DO LIKE, which I probably won't detail
as much because it's not as fun:

1) Installation and transition from OE (Import and setting it to default
program status) was a BREEZE. The only challenges have been presented by
adapting to the new interface... which is how it should be. And if they
satisfy the problems above, WLMD will OWN email handling - hands-down!

2) Praise Be To God! Exported email AND the store folders and files exist as
individual *.eml (email), *.rss (rss feeds), and *.nws (Newsgroup) files
inside corresponding folders!! All of which are non-proprietary text files.
No more *.dbx files with proprietary folder/file, hidden, hard-to-backup
evilness I hope! No offense to MS. Oh yeah, it gets even better. MS moved
the stores out of the random-as-could-be-imagined Identities subfolder.
Even though it is still complex: D:\Documents and Settings\[user]\Local
Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail desktop\[email
address]

3) THIS IS HUGE: Spam filtering ACTUALLY WORKS. The default spam filter in
WLMD kicks-some-serious-butt... They finally realized that addresses like
10298wdhjsu2882jid9@yourmother.com are NOT GOOD. You can have them
auto-deleted, but I like to scan through once-in-a-while to make sure my
long-lost uncle still hasn't written me.

4) 'Close'-Minimize to Notification Area of the Taskbar. Much preferable to
actually closing OR minimizing to the spatially-challenged taskbar. Yay!
WLMD checks mail at the specified interval even though it doesn't take-up my
precious taskbar.

5) Searches are much easier and more convenient. No doubt this harkens back
to Google influences, but hey, competition is SUPPOSED TO raise the bar!

6) Speaking of 'borrowing': RSS feeds and blogs are integrated, but I really
haven't used those things anyway.

7) Calendar is integrated. Yeah! Maybe when I grow-up (chuckles) I will use
this feature. I used to REALLY want one, but I had to sculpt my reality to
whatever OE offered (HATED Outlook with a passsion).

8) Contacts are more-better (I think) even if I haven't yet figured-out how
to export or back-them-up. But, MS is finally dabbling with synchronization
(I assume it is limited to Messenger/Passport, but that is okay). It SEEMS
like the only pseudo-sync occurs on installation... not sure how you re-sync
your contacts, but it may be automatic upon send-receive or synchronize
(tools menu). On install, WLMD asks IF it should extrapolate contacts from
your MS Passport account. I'm really don't remember whether they imported
from my Hotmail or my Messenger contacts. I also cannot say if your Contacts
subfolders/groups are maintained (SO ANNOYING). I assume they would be, but
I haven't depended on OE's contact management in a long time because Plaxo
always maintains Contact subfolders/groups AND synchronizes them between
multiple computers...for free. But due to Plaxo's recent idiocy, my primary
contacts store is only accessible via Internet Explorer rather than in OE
and now WLMD.

Side note: I haven't spent much time messing with Contacts in WLMD, mostly
because I am distraught and wandering aimlessly until Plaxo gets
head-out-of-buttocks. NO 64-bit support, acknowledgment, or
response-to-constant-harrassment in regard to the Plaxo OE/windows mail
plugin (helper)... as if XP x64 (not to mention Vista x64) does not even
exist... Argh! I live by remote/synchronized contacts, but if they don't get
with it... AND for crying-out-loud... add Favorites/Bookmarks storage and
sync too! What am I paying them (nothing) for!!...

9) Cleaner interface. WLMD is prettier than OE which has the psychological
affects of hope and reassurance that perhaps MS will stop ignoring its
customers and dilapidated email handling interface... an oft overlooked
bastion of customer loyalty. After all, most people buy and rely on their
computers primarily for email!

10) Inline, full-time spell checking! I thought I would hate it! I never
used it in OE, but it is wonderfully implemented in WLMD utilizing the
shared personalized dictionary so that I can right-click-add words like
nuphin that nobody in their right mind would use! It works just like it does
in Word, except that my run-on sentences don't get that annoying green
squiggle! (because grammar correction is not included or at least not
turned-on) I love to misuse my three dots... (ellipsis) and I don't want to
hear my English teacher squawking at me in the form of green squiggles. The
red ones don't bother me. I should get paid for this.

11) Email safety options are easy to change and collected into one
self-explanatory place. Email safety options is under the tools menu and
includes Spam Filtering Options, Blocked/Safe Lists, International Settings,
Phishing filtering, and other Security settings (images and security zone).

12) AND OF COURSE: the issue that pushed me over-the-edge in the first
place; WLMD opens email hypertext links in IE x86!!! And it doesn't crash on
my system!

Overall, WLMD is my new favorite email handling program. I can deal with the
problems I cited, but if those were resolved, MS would have another
beautiful piece of software to batter the competition with. And what better
time than when Vista and Office lay the smack down.

Thanks for reading my extremely biased and casual review! Hope it helps.

~Spinnacre

"John Barnes"
> Good luck. Hope it's your answer. Let us know. I dislike having to copy
> and paste URL's also, but fortunately don't have many.

"Spinnacre"
>> WOW! For the first time ever, Microsoft might have solved my problem
>> just
>> minutes after I betched about it! I got this email just minutes after
>> posting