Charlie
Sun Oct 28 10:30:17 PDT 2007
1.) Good.
2.) Strongly recommended
3.) Nope. Won't work. No workaround short of a slipstreamed install. The XP
x64 install is the same basic NT install that has existed since the original
version of Windows NT - NT 3.1. It's _very_ stupid. I have two floppy
drives - one an ancient internal drive I pulled from a system I was
discarding. The other a USB floppy. I have both in zip-lock bags, sitting on
a shelf in the back of the parts cabinet. They're there for the very few
times I need such a thing. Buy an inexpensive floppy - doesn't need to be
USB, but certainly it could be. But non-USB is cheaper. You'll need it if
you ever need to recover the system, so you might as well hang on to it.
Keep the cable with it, and stick it somewhere for if you ever need it.
4.) Data - no problem. Programs? You're going to have to completely
re-install. You can't "upgrade" to x64, you need to do a clean, fresh,
install. That means wiping and formatting the OS partition.
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ronis" <Ronis@discussions.microsoft.com>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: Cant Install XP Pro x64
> Charlie, ty for your fast response. I will address each of your points:
>
> #1. I found my RAID driver within a very well written HOW TO area of the
> EVGA website. Thanks for the reference
>
> #2. Ill try unplugging the card reader if it causes issues down the road -
> its currently assigned drives H-L or something silly like that.
>
> #3. Ugh, I cant get around the floppy disk issue? I suppose I can go buy
> a
> USB drive from a local vendor and then return it after im done . . . First
> Ill try putting my files on a USB Flash Drive and pray, then probably go
> buy
> a USB floppy.
>
> #4. Thanks for the reminder about RAID and catastrophic failures. I'll
> save
> all my critical files on either a networked HDD or the other non-RAID HDD
> on
> my system. I wanted (and got) sheer speed, I just dont want to reinstall
> and
> update 180GB of programs if I can avoid it.
>
> Thanks so much.
>
> Ron
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:
>
>> 1.) There may not _be_ XP x64 drivers for your RAID controller. But if
>> there are, eVGA would be the place to start. You can also look at the
>> website for the RAID controller OEM. I don't know that board so don't
>> know
>> which one it is. If you don't see one for XP x64, look for one for Server
>> 2003 x64. That will work just fine.
>>
>> 2.) You'll almost certainly need to unplug that card reader thing if it
>> plugs into USB internally, as most do. Having USB hard drives attached
>> during install tends to screw up the enumeration of hard drives and cause
>> failures.
>>
>> 3.) There is no easy way around having a floppy for the install. Borrow
>> one
>> from another machine, or buy an inexpensive one. USB is acceptable in
>> most
>> cases. The pre-Vista versions of Windows _only_ support floppy for
>> loading
>> drivers via F6. The only other alternative requires building a special
>> version of the install CD that has the drivers streamlined into it. It's
>> non-trivial. Given that the cost of a floppy drive is on the order of
>> $15-20
>> USD, I'd suggest that's a lot more sensible option.
>>
>> 4.) You say you have a lot of data that you don't want to lose on your
>> RAID
>> 0. Please be aware that having 3 drives in RAID-0 actually INCREASES your
>> risk of catastrophic failure and total data loss. RAID-0 provides no
>> redundancy and the failure of any one of the 3 drives will totally screw
>> you.
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>>
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>
>>
>> "Ronis" <Ronis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:0F6C8A58-25CB-40E8-B6B9-1251D5230D89@microsoft.com...
>> > Ive decided that I absolutely HATE vista (which came pre-installed on
>> > my
>> > computer) and want to install XP Pro x64 on my computer in its place.
>> >
>> > I have a 3 HDD RAID 0 configuration, no floppy drive (a 52 in 1 card
>> > reader
>> > in its place), and an i680 EVGA MB. Additionally, I was not given any
>> > RAID
>> > drivers with the computer, just the OS software and a recovery disk. I
>> > have
>> > alot of data already on the 3 other partitions of my RAID drive so I
>> > dont
>> > want to destroy the RAID to get XP Pro x64.
>> >
>> > During the OS install, I get an error that no HDD was detected. When I
>> > press the F6 (I think that is the key) to install 3rd party SCSI or
>> > RAID
>> > controller, I eventually get pushed to another screen that says no
>> > floppy
>> > was
>> > detected then booted back to the no HDD was detected screen.
>> >
>> > So, where is this RAID driver (its not obvious on the EVGA website -
>> > just
>> > the newest "motherboard drivers" are there) and once I have the driver,
>> > how
>> > do I get the XP Pro x64 installer to install it since I have no floppy?
>> >
>> > Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.
>>
--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
"Ronis" <Ronis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AE51821C-DD54-4C71-BFD7-3CABBACF653E@microsoft.com...
> Charlie, ty for your fast response. I will address each of your points:
>
> #1. I found my RAID driver within a very well written HOW TO area of the
> EVGA website. Thanks for the reference
>
> #2. Ill try unplugging the card reader if it causes issues down the road -
> its currently assigned drives H-L or something silly like that.
>
> #3. Ugh, I cant get around the floppy disk issue? I suppose I can go buy
> a
> USB drive from a local vendor and then return it after im done . . . First
> Ill try putting my files on a USB Flash Drive and pray, then probably go
> buy
> a USB floppy.
>
> #4. Thanks for the reminder about RAID and catastrophic failures. I'll
> save
> all my critical files on either a networked HDD or the other non-RAID HDD
> on
> my system. I wanted (and got) sheer speed, I just dont want to reinstall
> and
> update 180GB of programs if I can avoid it.
>
> Thanks so much.
>
> Ron
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:
>
>> 1.) There may not _be_ XP x64 drivers for your RAID controller. But if
>> there are, eVGA would be the place to start. You can also look at the
>> website for the RAID controller OEM. I don't know that board so don't
>> know
>> which one it is. If you don't see one for XP x64, look for one for Server
>> 2003 x64. That will work just fine.
>>
>> 2.) You'll almost certainly need to unplug that card reader thing if it
>> plugs into USB internally, as most do. Having USB hard drives attached
>> during install tends to screw up the enumeration of hard drives and cause
>> failures.
>>
>> 3.) There is no easy way around having a floppy for the install. Borrow
>> one
>> from another machine, or buy an inexpensive one. USB is acceptable in
>> most
>> cases. The pre-Vista versions of Windows _only_ support floppy for
>> loading
>> drivers via F6. The only other alternative requires building a special
>> version of the install CD that has the drivers streamlined into it. It's
>> non-trivial. Given that the cost of a floppy drive is on the order of
>> $15-20
>> USD, I'd suggest that's a lot more sensible option.
>>
>> 4.) You say you have a lot of data that you don't want to lose on your
>> RAID
>> 0. Please be aware that having 3 drives in RAID-0 actually INCREASES your
>> risk of catastrophic failure and total data loss. RAID-0 provides no
>> redundancy and the failure of any one of the 3 drives will totally screw
>> you.
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>>
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>
>>
>> "Ronis" <Ronis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:0F6C8A58-25CB-40E8-B6B9-1251D5230D89@microsoft.com...
>> > Ive decided that I absolutely HATE vista (which came pre-installed on
>> > my
>> > computer) and want to install XP Pro x64 on my computer in its place.
>> >
>> > I have a 3 HDD RAID 0 configuration, no floppy drive (a 52 in 1 card
>> > reader
>> > in its place), and an i680 EVGA MB. Additionally, I was not given any
>> > RAID
>> > drivers with the computer, just the OS software and a recovery disk. I
>> > have
>> > alot of data already on the 3 other partitions of my RAID drive so I
>> > dont
>> > want to destroy the RAID to get XP Pro x64.
>> >
>> > During the OS install, I get an error that no HDD was detected. When I
>> > press the F6 (I think that is the key) to install 3rd party SCSI or
>> > RAID
>> > controller, I eventually get pushed to another screen that says no
>> > floppy
>> > was
>> > detected then booted back to the no HDD was detected screen.
>> >
>> > So, where is this RAID driver (its not obvious on the EVGA website -
>> > just
>> > the newest "motherboard drivers" are there) and once I have the driver,
>> > how
>> > do I get the XP Pro x64 installer to install it since I have no floppy?
>> >
>> > Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.
>>