TV on x64

I've always used a TV-card in my PC, but this ended when I installed XP
x64.
I was waiting to buy a new card x64 compatible, but then I had this
idea:

what about useing VirtualPC or VMware workstation to run a second 32
bit OS to install all those drivers I can't use on the host x64 system?

An usb TV adapter should be ok, as my HP all in one network printer and
other usb devices.

Is this true, will it work, is it worth? Will an usbTV work good enough?

Dennis
Thu Dec 29 12:28:14 CST 2005

I use the Leadtek Winfast TV2000 XP Expert TV card with ShowShifter for TV
viewing and capture. The drivers are available at "planetamd64.com".


<mikedepetris@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1135879662.016438.154210@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> I've always used a TV-card in my PC, but this ended when I installed XP
> x64.
> I was waiting to buy a new card x64 compatible, but then I had this
> idea:
>
> what about useing VirtualPC or VMware workstation to run a second 32
> bit OS to install all those drivers I can't use on the host x64 system?
>
> An usb TV adapter should be ok, as my HP all in one network printer and
> other usb devices.
>
> Is this true, will it work, is it worth? Will an usbTV work good enough?
>

Colin
Thu Dec 29 13:02:55 CST 2005

Virtual PC does run on x64. Virtual Server R2 does, but neither supports
cards. The OS installed in VPC VSR2, or VMware runs in a virtual
environment and you cannot install drivers there for use in the host OS.

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<mikedepetris@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1135879662.016438.154210@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> I've always used a TV-card in my PC, but this ended when I installed XP
> x64.
> I was waiting to buy a new card x64 compatible, but then I had this
> idea:
>
> what about useing VirtualPC or VMware workstation to run a second 32
> bit OS to install all those drivers I can't use on the host x64 system?
>
> An usb TV adapter should be ok, as my HP all in one network printer and
> other usb devices.
>
> Is this true, will it work, is it worth? Will an usbTV work good enough?
>

mikedepetris
Thu Dec 29 13:43:53 CST 2005

I ask myself why do you write false statements.

Virtual machines with 32bit XP can normally install printer drivers and
usb devices drivers, I was only asking about performance of an usbTV
adapter.

Colin
Thu Dec 29 14:10:10 CST 2005

You cannot use VPC or any other virtual machine manager to install drivers
for cards that are used on the host. If you had a Gateway and a Dell
computer sitting side by side, could you install a driver on the Dell for a
card in the Gateway? Think about virtual computers the same way.

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<mikedepetris@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I ask myself why do you write false statements.
>
> Virtual machines with 32bit XP can normally install printer drivers and
> usb devices drivers, I was only asking about performance of an usbTV
> adapter.
>

John
Thu Dec 29 14:42:01 CST 2005

You have been around long enough to realise that some posters here have no
logic gene, and no matter how hard you try, they will never follow a logical
argument or they trail off with another well meaning poster that also hasn't
a clue. :-)

"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
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> You cannot use VPC or any other virtual machine manager to install drivers
> for cards that are used on the host. If you had a Gateway and a Dell
> computer sitting side by side, could you install a driver on the Dell for
> a card in the Gateway? Think about virtual computers the same way.
>
> --
> Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
> (Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
> <mikedepetris@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1135885433.337377.126570@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>>I ask myself why do you write false statements.
>>
>> Virtual machines with 32bit XP can normally install printer drivers and
>> usb devices drivers, I was only asking about performance of an usbTV
>> adapter.
>>
>
>

mikedepetris
Thu Dec 29 14:44:18 CST 2005

now I understand you simply do not read.

USB devices are installed by the guest OS if it is in the foreground.

Networkprinters drivers... no problem.

better now?

Colin
Thu Dec 29 14:58:20 CST 2005

:)

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"John Barnes" <jbfoofy@email.net> wrote in message
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> You have been around long enough to realise that some posters here have no
> logic gene, and no matter how hard you try, they will never follow a
> logical argument or they trail off with another well meaning poster that
> also hasn't a clue. :-)
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:O4IwiPLDGHA.4080@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> You cannot use VPC or any other virtual machine manager to install
>> drivers for cards that are used on the host. If you had a Gateway and a
>> Dell computer sitting side by side, could you install a driver on the
>> Dell for a card in the Gateway? Think about virtual computers the same
>> way.
>>
>> --
>> Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
>> (Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
>> <mikedepetris@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1135885433.337377.126570@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>>>I ask myself why do you write false statements.
>>>
>>> Virtual machines with 32bit XP can normally install printer drivers and
>>> usb devices drivers, I was only asking about performance of an usbTV
>>> adapter.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

khym
Thu Dec 29 15:01:29 CST 2005

In article <O4IwiPLDGHA.4080@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>,
Colin Barnhorst <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote:
>You cannot use VPC or any other virtual machine manager to install drivers
>for cards that are used on the host. If you had a Gateway and a Dell
>computer sitting side by side, could you install a driver on the Dell for a
>card in the Gateway? Think about virtual computers the same way.

Most people don't refer to USB devices as "cards". I don't use VPC,
but VMWare definitely supports installing drivers in the guest OS
for USB devices connected to the physical computer. A driver in
the host OS is not required.

See http://www.vmware.com/support/ws45/doc/devices_usb_ws.html (no
USB isochronous support in VMWare Workstation 4.5, so TV capture
devices won't work), and
http://www.vmware.com/support/ws55/doc/ws_devices_usb.html
(experimental support in 5.5 for USB isochronous devices... TV capture
devices might work; give it a try!)

mikedepetris is correct. And while you may arguably also be correct,
depending on how you define "card," your statement is completely
irrelevant to the current discussion.
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Colin
Thu Dec 29 15:10:50 CST 2005

But they are only installed on the guest OS. (VPC and Virtual Server do not
support usb, by the way, but I understand you are thinking of VMWare in this
case.)

A program like VPC or VMWare cannot be used to install a 32-bit driver in a
host computer running a 64-bit OS (or any OS for that matter).

I am telling you that no matter what you install on a guest OS, that item is
not also installed on the host. A guest is like Las Vegas; what happens
there stays there.

The problem seems to be is that you don't understand the relationship
between host and guest operating systems. That is OK. Lot's of folks
don't. Think of them as two separate computers even though they live in the
same physical box.

I understand that you are looking for a tool that will force a 32-bit driver
for a TV card to work on an x64 system. I am telling you that
virtualization programs are not that tool.

32-bit drivers do not work on x64 by design. It is not a bug. It will not
"get fixed." There are no workarounds.

Hope this helps.

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<mikedepetris@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> now I understand you simply do not read.
>
> USB devices are installed by the guest OS if it is in the foreground.
>
> Networkprinters drivers... no problem.
>
> better now?
>

mikedepetris
Thu Dec 29 15:15:00 CST 2005

you are great :-)

khym
Thu Dec 29 15:28:49 CST 2005

In article <##4IcxLDGHA.3992@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>,
Colin Barnhorst <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote:
>The problem seems to be is that you don't understand the relationship
>between host and guest operating systems. That is OK. Lot's of folks
>don't. Think of them as two separate computers even though they live in the
>same physical box.

Stop being such a condescending ass. I'm sure he understands the
relationship just fine. You're the one who's putting words into
his mouth in order to then say that he's wrong. He never mentioned
wanting to get the drivers installed in the host OS. He just wants
to know how well a USB TV capture device would work in a guest OS.

To summarize for you and get back on topic: will the performance
of a USB TV capture device running in a VMWare guest OS be acceptable?
I personally don't know, but I've played AVIs in a VMWare guest,
and the performance of that seemed just fine to me, so I'd think
that side of it would be OK.
--
Name: Dave Huang | Mammal, mammal / their names are called /
INet: khym@azeotrope.org | they raise a paw / the bat, the cat /
FurryMUCK: Dahan | dolphin and dog / koala bear and hog -- TMBG
Dahan: Hani G Y+C 30 Y++ L+++ W- C++ T++ A+ E+ S++ V++ F- Q+++ P+ B+ PA+ PL++

mikedepetris
Thu Dec 29 15:41:44 CST 2005

I tested printer drivers and they were all ok.

I never tested an USB tv adapter so I even do not know how good are
they on a real pc, but I guess they are good enough even in a virtual
machine as I have good experiences with their performances.

again: you are great

Colin
Thu Dec 29 15:49:20 CST 2005

You're right. It happened.

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"John Barnes" <jbfoofy@email.net> wrote in message
news:uoZZYhLDGHA.208@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> You have been around long enough to realise that some posters here have no
> logic gene, and no matter how hard you try, they will never follow a
> logical argument or they trail off with another well meaning poster that
> also hasn't a clue. :-)
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:O4IwiPLDGHA.4080@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> You cannot use VPC or any other virtual machine manager to install
>> drivers for cards that are used on the host. If you had a Gateway and a
>> Dell computer sitting side by side, could you install a driver on the
>> Dell for a card in the Gateway? Think about virtual computers the same
>> way.
>>
>> --
>> Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
>> (Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
>> <mikedepetris@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1135885433.337377.126570@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>>>I ask myself why do you write false statements.
>>>
>>> Virtual machines with 32bit XP can normally install printer drivers and
>>> usb devices drivers, I was only asking about performance of an usbTV
>>> adapter.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Davy
Thu Dec 29 16:28:21 CST 2005

You didn't mention what type of TV Card you had before.
Very recently there has been a working 64bit driver released for the
Connexant BT878 which is the a very common chipset for internal TV
Cards.
See this link for more info:
http://www.planetamd64.com/index.php?showtopic=13012&st=0

khym
Thu Dec 29 17:37:11 CST 2005

In article <uN#J9GMDGHA.2700@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl>,
Colin Barnhorst <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote:
>You're right. It happened.
>--
>Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
>(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)

>"John Barnes" <jbfoofy@email.net> wrote in message
>news:uoZZYhLDGHA.208@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> You have been around long enough to realise that some posters here have no
>> logic gene, and no matter how hard you try, they will never follow a
>> logical argument or they trail off with another well meaning poster that
>> also hasn't a clue. :-)

Lets have a quick clue status review, shall we?

The original message that started this thread:
I've always used a TV-card in my PC, but this ended when I
installed XP x64.
I was waiting to buy a new card x64 compatible, but then I had
this idea:

what about useing VirtualPC or VMware workstation to run a second
32 bit OS to install all those drivers I can't use on the host
x64 system?

An usb TV adapter should be ok, as my HP all in one network
printer and other usb devices.

Your reply:
Virtual PC does run on x64. Virtual Server R2 does, but neither
supports cards. The OS installed in VPC VSR2, or VMware runs in a
virtual environment and you cannot install drivers there for use in
the host OS.

First of all, Virtual PC does _not_ run on Windows x64, but we'll chalk
that up to a typo, seeing that the context shows that you probably did
know that VPC doesn't run on x64. But your comment that "you cannot
install drivers there for use in the host OS" is irrelevant, since
mikedepetris never said he wanted to install drivers in the guest OS for
use in the host. I don't think he's a native English speaker, but a
reasonably intelligent person would realize that he meant that he wants
to "install all those drivers" in the "second 32 bit OS." I.e., the
guest OS, not the host OS. He currently has a PCI TV card, and obviously
knows that he can't install the driver for it in the guest OS, since he
specifically mentioned using a USB TV adapter in the guest.

He clarifies that he "... was only asking about performance of an usbTV
adapter," but you're still on the same irrelevant track about "You
cannot use VPC or any other virtual machine manager to install drivers
for cards that are used on the host." You later mention, "I understand
that you are looking for a tool that will force a 32-bit driver for a TV
card to work on an x64 system." Where did you get that "understanding"?
mikedepetris never mentioned anything like that at all. His question is
specifically whether a USB TV tuner will work "good enough" under a
virtual machine running a 32-bit OS that does have tuner drivers.

Reading comprehension? YOU FAIL IT!

P.S. If, as other _helpful_ people have mentioned, 64-bit drivers are
now available for PCI TV tuners, I'd go with that rather than a USB
tuner running in a VM. While I suspect the latter will work fine, it
seems awfully kludgy.
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INet: khym@azeotrope.org | they raise a paw / the bat, the cat /
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Dahan: Hani G Y+C 30 Y++ L+++ W- C++ T++ A+ E+ S++ V++ F- Q+++ P+ B+ PA+ PL++

Dominic
Fri Dec 30 02:21:14 CST 2005

VirtualPC does not run on x64 and does not support USB anyway.

You might be able to use VMWare.

Officially, VMWare provides only USB1 and a TV device needs USB2 bandwidth
but I think the actual USB bandwidth provided by VMWare may be adequate. I
haven't heard of anyone who has tested VMWare with TV devices.

But what card were you using?
There are third party applications and unofficial and official beta drivers
and it may be that your existing card can be persuaded to work with x64.


<mikedepetris@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1135879662.016438.154210@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> I've always used a TV-card in my PC, but this ended when I installed XP
> x64.
> I was waiting to buy a new card x64 compatible, but then I had this
> idea:
>
> what about useing VirtualPC or VMware workstation to run a second 32
> bit OS to install all those drivers I can't use on the host x64 system?
>
> An usb TV adapter should be ok, as my HP all in one network printer and
> other usb devices.
>
> Is this true, will it work, is it worth? Will an usbTV work good enough?
>

mikedepetris
Fri Dec 30 02:34:38 CST 2005

Hauppauge WinTV

I had an AIMS labs VideoHighway Xtreme before

will have a look at the link thank you.

Dominic
Fri Dec 30 04:19:37 CST 2005

The K!TV beta should work with the Hauppauge WinTV and any other card with a
BT8x8 chip.
See http://beta.kastortv.org/?version=hello


<mikedepetris@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hauppauge WinTV
>
> I had an AIMS labs VideoHighway Xtreme before
>
> will have a look at the link thank you.
>

Mark
Fri Dec 30 10:25:21 CST 2005

On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 18:07:42 -0000, mikedepetris@gmail.com
<mikedepetris@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've always used a TV-card in my PC, but this ended when I installed XP
> x64.
> I was waiting to buy a new card x64 compatible, but then I had this
> idea:
>
> what about useing VirtualPC or VMware workstation to run a second 32
> bit OS to install all those drivers I can't use on the host x64 system?
>
> An usb TV adapter should be ok, as my HP all in one network printer and
> other usb devices.
>
> Is this true, will it work, is it worth? Will an usbTV work good enough?
>


Have you tried K!TV? There is a X64 beta version, and it has it's own
drivers. It works a treat with my PCTV card.

http://beta.kastortv.org/download/K!TV2.4Beta2x64-13062005.zip

mikedepetris
Mon Jan 02 03:16:39 CST 2006

I guess there is nothing to install (like it happened with Dscaler I
used years ago), unfortunately the exe file "does not appear to be an
executable file" :-( even if I unpacked the zip file correctly...

mikedepetris
Mon Jan 02 03:17:43 CST 2006

does not work for me... is there any info available on the site about
things I could try to make it work (see my other post) ?

mikedepetris
Mon Jan 02 03:19:27 CST 2006

I tryed installing it but I get a blue screen, the error seems to be in
STREAM.SYS

is there a web site giving support faq help about this driver ??

Dominic
Mon Jan 02 03:36:36 CST 2006

Did you download the 64 bit version?

Extract the full contents of the zip file to a directory - I created a K!TV
directory in my Program Files (x86) folder - and create a shortcut to
K!TV.exe where you find convenient.

See http://www.planetamd64.com/lofiversion/index.php/t7188.html - you may
need to install the .NET Framework.


<mikedepetris@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> does not work for me... is there any info available on the site about
> things I could try to make it work (see my other post) ?
>

mikedepetris
Mon Jan 02 03:44:33 CST 2006

I used the "Program Files" folder (isn't a 64bit application?) but I
know this can't be the problem. Will check again this evening.

mikedepetris
Mon Jan 02 15:57:55 CST 2006

"error executing program!" is the error I get... 64bit version unpacked
in a folder, can't execute :-(

Dominic
Mon Jan 02 17:07:50 CST 2006

K!TV works for many, including me.

The download may be corrupted - try a fresh download.

There may be a memory leak, not necessarily in K!TV though K!TV is a beta.
You could try turning off DEP, but I don't think others have found that
necessary.

Otherwise I would suspect a memory defect, or some other hardware related
problem.


<mikedepetris@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "error executing program!" is the error I get... 64bit version unpacked
> in a folder, can't execute :-(
>

mikedepetris
Mon Jan 02 17:21:02 CST 2006

what's DEP?

btw I downloaded it two times and I get no error unpacking it.
Starting it gives "This application has failed to start because the
application configuration is incorrect. Reinstalling the application
may fix this problem."

I tryed also the other (32 bit) version and it works well, obviously
fails when trying to set the source to the bt484 or WDM driver.

Turned off all Avast too
??

Dominic
Tue Jan 03 01:00:55 CST 2006

DEP is Data Execution Prevention. See Windows Help for details.

Do you have the .NET Framework installed?
If not, install the x64 version. If so, try reinstalling it.


<mikedepetris@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1136244062.023589.198110@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> what's DEP?
>
> btw I downloaded it two times and I get no error unpacking it.
> Starting it gives "This application has failed to start because the
> application configuration is incorrect. Reinstalling the application
> may fix this problem."
>
> I tryed also the other (32 bit) version and it works well, obviously
> fails when trying to set the source to the bt484 or WDM driver.
>
> Turned off all Avast too
> ??
>

mikedepetris
Tue Jan 03 02:12:15 CST 2006

Yes I guess the problem is about .NET, will try reinstalling it... let
me find a link.

Dominic
Tue Jan 03 03:29:43 CST 2006

See http://msdn.microsoft.com/netframework/downloads/updates/default.aspx


<mikedepetris@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Yes I guess the problem is about .NET, will try reinstalling it... let
> me find a link.
>

mikedepetris
Tue Jan 03 05:16:03 CST 2006

DEP is enabled for basic win processes and services, I think this can't
be a problem.

mikedepetris
Tue Jan 03 17:41:08 CST 2006

Ok installed Microsoft .NET Framework Version 2.0 Redistributable
Package (x64)
from
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/thankyou.aspx?familyId=b44a0000-acf8-4fa1-affb-40e78d788b00&displayLang=en&oRef=http%3a%2f%2fmsdn.microsoft.com%2fnetframework%2fdownloads%2fupdates%2fdefault.aspx

now the program starts, but when switching th evideo source to bt8x8
the plugin crashes.

what can I try?

mikedepetris
Tue Jan 03 17:53:40 CST 2006

The error is read is:
S_Bt8x8 Error: No Broktree/Conexant 848/849/878/879 found.
Try WDM(Generic) source instead.

then:
Error in plugin Plugins/S_Bt8x8.dll: Crash in PluginInfo

Dominic
Tue Jan 03 18:25:21 CST 2006

Is Hauppauge WinTV the full description of your card?
The error suggests that you do not have a card with the BT8x8 chip.

Do you have any other driver installed for the card? If so, which?


<mikedepetris@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1136332420.291375.94170@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> The error is read is:
> S_Bt8x8 Error: No Broktree/Conexant 848/849/878/879 found.
> Try WDM(Generic) source instead.
>
> then:
> Error in plugin Plugins/S_Bt8x8.dll: Crash in PluginInfo
>

mikedepetris
Wed Jan 04 03:50:45 CST 2006

I tryed installing the conexant for the bt8x8 64bit WDM driver, but I
get a blue screen at the end of install, reporting problems in the
stream.sys

I tried to get rid of the wdm driver but I think I have to do a better
uninstallation as the card is a bt848 and worked ok with 32bit drivers
before.

Should Dscaler work too with this 64bit dll ?

Dominic
Wed Jan 04 04:21:34 CST 2006

I installed the Conexant 5.3.8.64 driver - it's still installed - but the
software I have wouldn't work with it. The Conexant driver doesn't conflict
with K!TV for me.

Check that the WinTV is fully home in its slot, and if it still doesn't work
try a different slot - there might be a hardware conflict.


<mikedepetris@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1136368245.555616.312720@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>I tryed installing the conexant for the bt8x8 64bit WDM driver, but I
> get a blue screen at the end of install, reporting problems in the
> stream.sys
>
> I tried to get rid of the wdm driver but I think I have to do a better
> uninstallation as the card is a bt848 and worked ok with 32bit drivers
> before.
>
> Should Dscaler work too with this 64bit dll ?
>

mikedepetris
Wed Jan 04 04:47:21 CST 2006

it IS working booting in 32 bit XP

Dominic
Wed Jan 04 05:58:59 CST 2006

Then you have a conflict somewhere. I have seen no reports of K!TV causing
conflicts.

I suggest you turn on DEP for everything and see which of your applications
need an exception. This may give an idea of what is conflicting.


<mikedepetris@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> it IS working booting in 32 bit XP
>

Mark
Wed Jan 04 14:13:31 CST 2006

On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 09:16:39 -0000, mikedepetris@gmail.com
<mikedepetris@gmail.com> wrote:

> I guess there is nothing to install (like it happened with Dscaler I
> used years ago), unfortunately the exe file "does not appear to be an
> executable file" :-( even if I unpacked the zip file correctly...
>


No install. If it says the EXE is not valid, then there are 2 things that
couyld be wrong

a) the download is corrupt, try downloading it again.
b) it's a x64 binary, and you are actually using 32bit XP!

mikedepetris
Wed Jan 04 17:10:04 CST 2006

reinstalling .NET 2.0 x64 fixed this, now I have a crash in the bt8x8
dll plugin only

Nick
Sun Jan 08 00:38:01 CST 2006

Thankyou Dave for putting these two schoolboy know it all ass bullies in line.
Nick

"Dave Huang" wrote:

> In article <O4IwiPLDGHA.4080@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>,
> Colin Barnhorst <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote:
> >You cannot use VPC or any other virtual machine manager to install drivers
> >for cards that are used on the host. If you had a Gateway and a Dell
> >computer sitting side by side, could you install a driver on the Dell for a
> >card in the Gateway? Think about virtual computers the same way.
>
> Most people don't refer to USB devices as "cards". I don't use VPC,
> but VMWare definitely supports installing drivers in the guest OS
> for USB devices connected to the physical computer. A driver in
> the host OS is not required.
>
> See http://www.vmware.com/support/ws45/doc/devices_usb_ws.html (no
> USB isochronous support in VMWare Workstation 4.5, so TV capture
> devices won't work), and
> http://www.vmware.com/support/ws55/doc/ws_devices_usb.html
> (experimental support in 5.5 for USB isochronous devices... TV capture
> devices might work; give it a try!)
>
> mikedepetris is correct. And while you may arguably also be correct,
> depending on how you define "card," your statement is completely
> irrelevant to the current discussion.
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Nick
Sun Jan 08 00:46:01 CST 2006

Hi All

I run a Dvico Fusion dual digital HDTV and it runs like crap on my AMD X2
3800+, 2gb Ram, on board ATI Rage X200 (X300 based) with 128mb memory
allocated and Win XP X64.
I have an X800 Pro PCIEx16 in the mail but im not convinced this will do the
trick, suspecting it is typical crap X64 support. Im using beta drivers for
the card as that is all that is available. ALso the supplied infrared remote
control doesnt seem to work, again im guessing it is the X64 driver support
(and hopefully not a DOA remote).

"mikedepetris@gmail.com" wrote:

> reinstalling .NET 2.0 x64 fixed this, now I have a crash in the bt8x8
> dll plugin only
>
>